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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Rajiv Malhotra comments: on Feb 1 2005 1:26PM
<b>NEW YORK TIMES AND THE UCHICAGO CARTEL:</b>
To uncover the long reach of this cartel and how it placed the recent <b>New York Times article</b>, one starts with <b>Prof. Martin Marty</b> who is one of the most powerful scholars at <b>UChicagoâs Divinity School</b>. (<i>This school produces the largest number of PhDs on Hinduism Studies, through its faculty which includes Wendy Doniger.</i>)
Martin Marty now runs the powerful institute of religion at UChicago named after him.
(See: http://marty-center.uchicago.edu/about/index.shtml )
It says, âThe Martin Marty Center is the institute for advanced research in all fields of the study of religion at the University of Chicago Divinity School.â
Who is Martin Marty and how does he fit into the Chicago Cartel? He is described on his own web page as â<i><b>an ordained minister in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.</b></i>â See: http://www.elca.org/about.html about this church.) On the question, âIs the Bible the inerrant word of God,â they explain clearly that they are what I would classify as History-Centric and literal. See: http://www.elca.org/questions/Results.asp?recid=16 . They believe that Christ is coming back to raise people from the dead. Furthermore, they assert, âTheories of reincarnation are the antithesis of Lutheran theology.â It is proudly a very âmembership orientedâ institution in every sense of that term, with a vast third world franchise to convert people.
His bio boasts that he was the senior editor of the magazine, â<b>The Christian Century.</b>â See more about this Christian-centric magazine: http://www.christiancentury.org/ He is described as the nationâs most prominent authors in the field of History of Religions. Along with Wendy Doniger and a few other colleagues, he has helped trained and get influential jobs for a whole generation of scholars and college teachers who now represent Hinduismâs portrayals.
Wendy Doniger and Martin Marty are part of the old boys/girls network and go way back. There is nothing wrong with them being very tight and standing up for each other. See both of these cartel big wigs featured at the Martin Marty Centerâs web site:
http://marty-center.uchicago.edu/about/index.shtml
It is only natural that Wendy Doniger is putting her cartel to good use in this PR campaign to demonize Hindus and anyone who criticizes her. However, it is interesting to notice how blatantly these Christian fundamentalists are respected in the âsecularâ academy/media, because they tend to be well groomed, polished, articulate, with good pedigrees, and most of all, with a good network of contacts (read âcartelâ membership).
Such fundamentalist Christians are the âexpertâ sources used by media to call us âHindu Fundamentalistsâ! All evidence of their conflicts of interest, such as their churchesâ aggressive proselytizing against Hindus in India, get airbrushed away as a sort of denial by the media and by the scholars who fail to highlight these conflicts when featuring their writings.
The following sequence of events is interesting to track:
1) First Marty Martin wrote a one-sided article in Beliefnet to hit at Wendy Donigerâs critics, titled, âScholars of Hinduism under attackâ. See: http://www.beliefnet.com/story/128/story_12899_1.html In typical Biblical style of martyrdom, it positions the âgoodâ side as âvictimsâ of the âbadâ side.
2) But this got largely neutralized when others such as Sankrant Sanu wrote rejoinders on the same portal. See Sankrantâs rejoinder at: http://www.beliefnet.com/story/146/story_14684_1.html
3) Now let us we come to the cartelâs links with New York Times. Edward Rothstein is co-author with Martin Marty in their OUP book. See:
http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subj...a&ci=0195144619
4) Naturally, as co-authors it would be natural for them to be close and help each other, and to participate in each otherâs networks. So Edward Rothstein wrote the recent New York Times article in which he headlines Wendy Donigerâs critics as âHindu Puritansâ. He goes on to brand those who oppose her as âHindu fundamentalistsâ and so forth. Many persons have called the article things like âoutright stupid and incompetent journalismâ, âinsulting to Hindus,â etc. The journalist failed to even contact those he criticized for an interview, presumably out of fear that the truth disclosed might work against his agenda.
<b>Do the higher ups at the Times even know what these hidden links and potential conflicts of interest are? How well-educated are they on the complex dynamics of our Hindu minorityâs American situation? One wonders why the standards of journalism that even my son's undergraduate class at NYU learns were allowed to drop in the case of this article. What strings were pulled and for what considerations?</b>
So please stop being naïve about âeducatingâ these cartel folks, etc. They are intellectually and politically armed and dangerous.
Regards,
Rajiv<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The underlining, bold and italics are the writer's. I made a few things blue.
(1) The above is from a comment page for the main article RISA Lila.
(2) Liar-for-gawd Wendy Doniger/O'Flaherty has no business translating from Samskritam when even Michael Witzel has picked out many mistakes from her work. See the article itself.
(3) Christo Wendy and her kids working for christo Univ of Chicago to execute specifically christo purposes:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>The Queen's Power:</b>
Her students have been encouraged to go to India with the specific purpose of looking for data on âChristian persecution in India,â even though everyone knows that a genuine scholar cannot embark upon research with the conclusions already fixed[ lxxi ]. Much activism is being disguised as scholarship.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
(4) Among the infuriating stuff pointed out in the main article is:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Stanley Kurtz, an anthropologist of India, uses psychoanalysis to conclude that <b>Hindu mothers do not have âa Western-style loving, emotional partnershipâ with their babies</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Won't tar all of the west here, they don't deserve it. Will speak of christian mothers:
It's true - thank goodness Hindu mothers don't have a christian-style 'loving, emotional partnership' with their babies.
(a) http://atheism.about.com/b/a/140049.htm
Highlights a little christian business manufacturing and selling biblically-sanctioned rods to use on children:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Don't Spare 'The Rod'</b>
Is your child misbehaving? Are you having trouble coming up with the proper means of discipline? If you spare the rod, you'll spoil the child - and there exists the perfect "rod" that will keep your child from being spoiled: a 22-inch nylon whipping stick that will put the fear of God into the little blighters.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Links to an American christo site selling the appropriate biblically defined and approved instrument for beating up kids with.
(b) http://www.tldm.org/news6/child.discipline.htm
Christian site that contains such faithful jewels as:
- <i>Spanking can be a valuable disciplinary tool, Focus on the Family</i>
- <i>Dr. Laura advises parents to use "swift <b>and terrible</b>" correction for defiant children</i> (good-christian woman right there, what a loving mum! Child-beating sadists <!--emo&:furious--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/furious.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='furious.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
http://freetruth.50webs.org/A3.htm#ChildrenToday also gives book suggestions:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><i>Spare the Child</i> by Philip Greven. Greven cites many excerpts from present-day American Protestant writers to demonstrate that violence against children is still being promoted by Christian clerics.
<i>For Your Own Good</i> by Alice Miller In which the author traces the roots of physical violence towards children in the western world to the influence of Christianity.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Rajiv Malhotra comments: on Feb 1 2005 1:26PM
<b>NEW YORK TIMES AND THE UCHICAGO CARTEL:</b>
To uncover the long reach of this cartel and how it placed the recent <b>New York Times article</b>, one starts with <b>Prof. Martin Marty</b> who is one of the most powerful scholars at <b>UChicagoâs Divinity School</b>. (<i>This school produces the largest number of PhDs on Hinduism Studies, through its faculty which includes Wendy Doniger.</i>)
Martin Marty now runs the powerful institute of religion at UChicago named after him.
(See: http://marty-center.uchicago.edu/about/index.shtml )
It says, âThe Martin Marty Center is the institute for advanced research in all fields of the study of religion at the University of Chicago Divinity School.â
Who is Martin Marty and how does he fit into the Chicago Cartel? He is described on his own web page as â<i><b>an ordained minister in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.</b></i>â See: http://www.elca.org/about.html about this church.) On the question, âIs the Bible the inerrant word of God,â they explain clearly that they are what I would classify as History-Centric and literal. See: http://www.elca.org/questions/Results.asp?recid=16 . They believe that Christ is coming back to raise people from the dead. Furthermore, they assert, âTheories of reincarnation are the antithesis of Lutheran theology.â It is proudly a very âmembership orientedâ institution in every sense of that term, with a vast third world franchise to convert people.
His bio boasts that he was the senior editor of the magazine, â<b>The Christian Century.</b>â See more about this Christian-centric magazine: http://www.christiancentury.org/ He is described as the nationâs most prominent authors in the field of History of Religions. Along with Wendy Doniger and a few other colleagues, he has helped trained and get influential jobs for a whole generation of scholars and college teachers who now represent Hinduismâs portrayals.
Wendy Doniger and Martin Marty are part of the old boys/girls network and go way back. There is nothing wrong with them being very tight and standing up for each other. See both of these cartel big wigs featured at the Martin Marty Centerâs web site:
http://marty-center.uchicago.edu/about/index.shtml
It is only natural that Wendy Doniger is putting her cartel to good use in this PR campaign to demonize Hindus and anyone who criticizes her. However, it is interesting to notice how blatantly these Christian fundamentalists are respected in the âsecularâ academy/media, because they tend to be well groomed, polished, articulate, with good pedigrees, and most of all, with a good network of contacts (read âcartelâ membership).
Such fundamentalist Christians are the âexpertâ sources used by media to call us âHindu Fundamentalistsâ! All evidence of their conflicts of interest, such as their churchesâ aggressive proselytizing against Hindus in India, get airbrushed away as a sort of denial by the media and by the scholars who fail to highlight these conflicts when featuring their writings.
The following sequence of events is interesting to track:
1) First Marty Martin wrote a one-sided article in Beliefnet to hit at Wendy Donigerâs critics, titled, âScholars of Hinduism under attackâ. See: http://www.beliefnet.com/story/128/story_12899_1.html In typical Biblical style of martyrdom, it positions the âgoodâ side as âvictimsâ of the âbadâ side.
2) But this got largely neutralized when others such as Sankrant Sanu wrote rejoinders on the same portal. See Sankrantâs rejoinder at: http://www.beliefnet.com/story/146/story_14684_1.html
3) Now let us we come to the cartelâs links with New York Times. Edward Rothstein is co-author with Martin Marty in their OUP book. See:
http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/subj...a&ci=0195144619
4) Naturally, as co-authors it would be natural for them to be close and help each other, and to participate in each otherâs networks. So Edward Rothstein wrote the recent New York Times article in which he headlines Wendy Donigerâs critics as âHindu Puritansâ. He goes on to brand those who oppose her as âHindu fundamentalistsâ and so forth. Many persons have called the article things like âoutright stupid and incompetent journalismâ, âinsulting to Hindus,â etc. The journalist failed to even contact those he criticized for an interview, presumably out of fear that the truth disclosed might work against his agenda.
<b>Do the higher ups at the Times even know what these hidden links and potential conflicts of interest are? How well-educated are they on the complex dynamics of our Hindu minorityâs American situation? One wonders why the standards of journalism that even my son's undergraduate class at NYU learns were allowed to drop in the case of this article. What strings were pulled and for what considerations?</b>
So please stop being naïve about âeducatingâ these cartel folks, etc. They are intellectually and politically armed and dangerous.
Regards,
Rajiv<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The underlining, bold and italics are the writer's. I made a few things blue.
(1) The above is from a comment page for the main article RISA Lila.
(2) Liar-for-gawd Wendy Doniger/O'Flaherty has no business translating from Samskritam when even Michael Witzel has picked out many mistakes from her work. See the article itself.
(3) Christo Wendy and her kids working for christo Univ of Chicago to execute specifically christo purposes:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>The Queen's Power:</b>
Her students have been encouraged to go to India with the specific purpose of looking for data on âChristian persecution in India,â even though everyone knows that a genuine scholar cannot embark upon research with the conclusions already fixed[ lxxi ]. Much activism is being disguised as scholarship.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
(4) Among the infuriating stuff pointed out in the main article is:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Stanley Kurtz, an anthropologist of India, uses psychoanalysis to conclude that <b>Hindu mothers do not have âa Western-style loving, emotional partnershipâ with their babies</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Won't tar all of the west here, they don't deserve it. Will speak of christian mothers:
It's true - thank goodness Hindu mothers don't have a christian-style 'loving, emotional partnership' with their babies.
(a) http://atheism.about.com/b/a/140049.htm
Highlights a little christian business manufacturing and selling biblically-sanctioned rods to use on children:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Don't Spare 'The Rod'</b>
Is your child misbehaving? Are you having trouble coming up with the proper means of discipline? If you spare the rod, you'll spoil the child - and there exists the perfect "rod" that will keep your child from being spoiled: a 22-inch nylon whipping stick that will put the fear of God into the little blighters.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Links to an American christo site selling the appropriate biblically defined and approved instrument for beating up kids with.
(b) http://www.tldm.org/news6/child.discipline.htm
Christian site that contains such faithful jewels as:
- <i>Spanking can be a valuable disciplinary tool, Focus on the Family</i>
- <i>Dr. Laura advises parents to use "swift <b>and terrible</b>" correction for defiant children</i> (good-christian woman right there, what a loving mum! Child-beating sadists <!--emo&:furious--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/furious.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='furious.gif' /><!--endemo--> )
http://freetruth.50webs.org/A3.htm#ChildrenToday also gives book suggestions:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><i>Spare the Child</i> by Philip Greven. Greven cites many excerpts from present-day American Protestant writers to demonstrate that violence against children is still being promoted by Christian clerics.
<i>For Your Own Good</i> by Alice Miller In which the author traces the roots of physical violence towards children in the western world to the influence of Christianity.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->