Apparently I am the only one bothered with a paragraph pasted in the previous post. It's this bit:
<!--QuoteBegin-k.ram+May 20 2007, 04:53 AM-->QUOTE(k.ram @ May 20 2007, 04:53 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Defend Rama Sethu</b>
By Subramanian Swamy
[...]
To begin with, Shri Rama really emerged in national perception as a Maryada Purushottam divinity as distinct from a young dutiful prince of Ayodhya only after his sojourn to South India. In her S.C.Misra Memorial Lecture, Professor Suvira Jaiswal [www.thehindu. com/2007/ 03/12/stories], who has become the President of the Indian History Congress recently, states that King Rama of Ayodhya was transformed into Bhagwan Shri Rama of the whole nation, i.e., as a re-incarnation of Vishnu because of the Tamil Vaishnava saints, Alwars who sang praises of the qualities of Shri Rama. She also states that Chola and Pandya Kings despite being Shaivites, built the first temples for Rama as a deity. Thus, while Raja Ram may be regarded as a `northerner' from Ayodhya by the DK, nevertheless Bhagwan Shri Rama as a divine incarnation is the revelation of Tamil saints to the Hindu religion nationally. Shri Rama is a symbol of our nation oneness.[right][snapback]69051[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Seems I'm permanently stuck in the twilight zone.
Why is Subramaniam Swamy referring to a communist's recent thesis (that of Misra)? Ideas which are by the way nowhere attested among Hindus or Hindu literature, and have completely emerged from the communist mind? See post 92 of Politics of Indian History 2 thread for where Misra's ideas were first introduced - it was also posted by K.Ram and he described the contents with the words "commie alert". (Sorry K.Ram, I'm assuming you're male. Not trying to be sexist here.)
Misra says that Rama was basically invented by writers. And after naming something the 'Rama cult' he says that this was invented quite late. His theory talks of some inane concept called 'ramology', by the way. Cute. This theory was invented about two months ago. Is 2 months all it takes now to utterly rewrite thousands of years of Hinduism?
Instead of taking offense at these latest lies and the associated denial of all Hindu traditions and experiences relating to Rama to date, Subramaniam Swamy chooses to endorse those views. Why did he blindly except these modern notions that seek to rewrite a major part of Hinduism? He should have checked what he gave his approval too. He can't afford to make blunders.
Why are Hindus so naive? Why so quick to sell out everything they learnt from childhood in order to replace it with the latest theory by communists - and one that's in utter conflict with all of Hindu experience too?
Does Subramaniam Swamy know of a single Hindu who has learnt from their parents/grandparents/great-grandparents those ideas that Misra has only recently manufactured? Then why thoughtlessly cite an unfounded, meaningless and unbaked theory?
As someone who has been given the opportunity to speak and say something that will influence his Hindu audience I think Swamy has made a huge mistake. *Very huge*. Can anyone here contact him to tell him to cut out that lame paragraph where he endorses the latest communist rewrite of Hinduism?
It's bad enough communists are allowed to write our history books. Now they are allowed to dictate what is and is not Hinduism too? No one would have accepted Misra's make-believe. Except that Swamy has now basically unwittingly given his stamp of approval to it. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Swamy is wasting his time trying to appeal to the DMK and will instead disappoint (if not lose the confidence of) many people whose Isthadevam is Ramar, by his apparent agreement with Misra on 'ramology'.
It's all we need, more Hindus denying other Hindus' (especially the older generations') experiences and long-held knowledge.
Swamy should try to retain the people already on his side, instead of alienating them. The DMK is beyond winning over, they <i>like</i> to believe in nonexistent Dravidioids and Oryans. So there's no need to insult his own supporters in order to attract the disinterested opposition.
<!--QuoteBegin-k.ram+May 20 2007, 04:53 AM-->QUOTE(k.ram @ May 20 2007, 04:53 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Defend Rama Sethu</b>
By Subramanian Swamy
[...]
To begin with, Shri Rama really emerged in national perception as a Maryada Purushottam divinity as distinct from a young dutiful prince of Ayodhya only after his sojourn to South India. In her S.C.Misra Memorial Lecture, Professor Suvira Jaiswal [www.thehindu. com/2007/ 03/12/stories], who has become the President of the Indian History Congress recently, states that King Rama of Ayodhya was transformed into Bhagwan Shri Rama of the whole nation, i.e., as a re-incarnation of Vishnu because of the Tamil Vaishnava saints, Alwars who sang praises of the qualities of Shri Rama. She also states that Chola and Pandya Kings despite being Shaivites, built the first temples for Rama as a deity. Thus, while Raja Ram may be regarded as a `northerner' from Ayodhya by the DK, nevertheless Bhagwan Shri Rama as a divine incarnation is the revelation of Tamil saints to the Hindu religion nationally. Shri Rama is a symbol of our nation oneness.[right][snapback]69051[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Seems I'm permanently stuck in the twilight zone.
Why is Subramaniam Swamy referring to a communist's recent thesis (that of Misra)? Ideas which are by the way nowhere attested among Hindus or Hindu literature, and have completely emerged from the communist mind? See post 92 of Politics of Indian History 2 thread for where Misra's ideas were first introduced - it was also posted by K.Ram and he described the contents with the words "commie alert". (Sorry K.Ram, I'm assuming you're male. Not trying to be sexist here.)
Misra says that Rama was basically invented by writers. And after naming something the 'Rama cult' he says that this was invented quite late. His theory talks of some inane concept called 'ramology', by the way. Cute. This theory was invented about two months ago. Is 2 months all it takes now to utterly rewrite thousands of years of Hinduism?
Instead of taking offense at these latest lies and the associated denial of all Hindu traditions and experiences relating to Rama to date, Subramaniam Swamy chooses to endorse those views. Why did he blindly except these modern notions that seek to rewrite a major part of Hinduism? He should have checked what he gave his approval too. He can't afford to make blunders.
Why are Hindus so naive? Why so quick to sell out everything they learnt from childhood in order to replace it with the latest theory by communists - and one that's in utter conflict with all of Hindu experience too?
Does Subramaniam Swamy know of a single Hindu who has learnt from their parents/grandparents/great-grandparents those ideas that Misra has only recently manufactured? Then why thoughtlessly cite an unfounded, meaningless and unbaked theory?
As someone who has been given the opportunity to speak and say something that will influence his Hindu audience I think Swamy has made a huge mistake. *Very huge*. Can anyone here contact him to tell him to cut out that lame paragraph where he endorses the latest communist rewrite of Hinduism?
It's bad enough communists are allowed to write our history books. Now they are allowed to dictate what is and is not Hinduism too? No one would have accepted Misra's make-believe. Except that Swamy has now basically unwittingly given his stamp of approval to it. <!--emo&:angry:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/mad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='mad.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Swamy is wasting his time trying to appeal to the DMK and will instead disappoint (if not lose the confidence of) many people whose Isthadevam is Ramar, by his apparent agreement with Misra on 'ramology'.
It's all we need, more Hindus denying other Hindus' (especially the older generations') experiences and long-held knowledge.
Swamy should try to retain the people already on his side, instead of alienating them. The DMK is beyond winning over, they <i>like</i> to believe in nonexistent Dravidioids and Oryans. So there's no need to insult his own supporters in order to attract the disinterested opposition.