05-22-2007, 02:15 AM
It was a tradition amongst Hindu Punjabi Brahmins to make their first born a Sikh. Also, marriages amongst Sikhs and Hindus were common in the past. Polarization started occurring more rapidly post-Bhindrawalla and now since Sikhs have started openly declaring âSikhismâ as a separate religion, I think, sadly the chasm between Hindus and Sikhs will only grow in the future.
I, like millions, of other Hindus grew up with the belief that Sikhism is a part of Hinduism. But years back when I shifted to UK, I was stunned to find the hatred some Sikhs(mostly from East Africa) in UK harbor against Hindus.
I was talking to a Sikh some years back in UK. I said first 9 Gurus were Hindu Khatris & even Guru Gobind wanted to distinguish warrior Hindus from other Hindus thus asked them (5 pyaras) to keep 5 symbols so pray when did Guru Gobind start a new religion? And now are you(Sikhs) even going to disown your first 9 Gurus, as they were Hindu Khatris? Today when you say you were never Hindus, are you claiming your ancestors were Muslims? This East African Brit Asian Sikh really got annoyed on hearing thisâ¦
What I am going to say now may not be directly related to this thread but for Indians who have not been to UK, they would be surprised to hear that British Asians who came from Kenya & Uganda really behave badly with Indians who come to UK from India. A quick background: Brits took indentured laborers from India to work on railway tracks etc. in Kenya 100-150 years back. Though these Indians got educated & prospered over the decades in East Africa but over the period of time started talking, dressing & even speaking like their black counterparts (some Gujratis from E.Africa even speak âSwahiliâ at home). When these East Africans Indians were thrown out of East Africa (they use to misbehave with blacks there), they came to UK around 1970. Some of these East African Brit Asians have not visited India for decades & most of them openly bad mouth India & Indians.
I have never seen a more rude and badly behaved bunch in my life. The only thing Indian about these East African creatures (who are mostly Gujrati & Sikhs) is their Indian names. These East African Brit Asians get angry when you call them Indians & angrily tell you âexcuse me, we are British Asians, donât call us Indians' (they are ashamed of their Indian roots). These East African Brit Asians suffer from a deep rooted inferiority complex (becoz of their indentured laborer background)â¦They smile & talk politely with Brit âwhitesâ but frown & are openly abusive,rude when interacting with Indians from India mocking Indians about their Indian accent & openly misbehaving with Indians. Any Indian from India (or for that matter any Indian American, Indian Australian etc.) staying in UK would tell you that these East African British Asians are one of the most ugly creatures (and I donât just mean in looks) on this planet earth.
When I was new in UK(London), I used to enthusiastically approach & try to talk to these East African British Asians but was shocked at their crude & abusive behavior(after years in London now, I have wisened up so try to avoid interacting with them as much as possible). The more you get to know them, the more you are shocked at the amount of poison they harbor inside them for Indians(Indians who have come to UK from India). Reality is there is no love lost in UK between most East African Brit Asians and Indians from India.
Some of the Sikhs who came to UK from East Africa were the ones who were in the forefront funding this âKhalistaniâ movement in the past & also created websites talking of Sikhism being a different religion etc. You have to see the fanaticism of some Sikhs in UK to believe itâ¦
I, like millions, of other Hindus grew up with the belief that Sikhism is a part of Hinduism. But years back when I shifted to UK, I was stunned to find the hatred some Sikhs(mostly from East Africa) in UK harbor against Hindus.
I was talking to a Sikh some years back in UK. I said first 9 Gurus were Hindu Khatris & even Guru Gobind wanted to distinguish warrior Hindus from other Hindus thus asked them (5 pyaras) to keep 5 symbols so pray when did Guru Gobind start a new religion? And now are you(Sikhs) even going to disown your first 9 Gurus, as they were Hindu Khatris? Today when you say you were never Hindus, are you claiming your ancestors were Muslims? This East African Brit Asian Sikh really got annoyed on hearing thisâ¦
What I am going to say now may not be directly related to this thread but for Indians who have not been to UK, they would be surprised to hear that British Asians who came from Kenya & Uganda really behave badly with Indians who come to UK from India. A quick background: Brits took indentured laborers from India to work on railway tracks etc. in Kenya 100-150 years back. Though these Indians got educated & prospered over the decades in East Africa but over the period of time started talking, dressing & even speaking like their black counterparts (some Gujratis from E.Africa even speak âSwahiliâ at home). When these East Africans Indians were thrown out of East Africa (they use to misbehave with blacks there), they came to UK around 1970. Some of these East African Brit Asians have not visited India for decades & most of them openly bad mouth India & Indians.
I have never seen a more rude and badly behaved bunch in my life. The only thing Indian about these East African creatures (who are mostly Gujrati & Sikhs) is their Indian names. These East African Brit Asians get angry when you call them Indians & angrily tell you âexcuse me, we are British Asians, donât call us Indians' (they are ashamed of their Indian roots). These East African Brit Asians suffer from a deep rooted inferiority complex (becoz of their indentured laborer background)â¦They smile & talk politely with Brit âwhitesâ but frown & are openly abusive,rude when interacting with Indians from India mocking Indians about their Indian accent & openly misbehaving with Indians. Any Indian from India (or for that matter any Indian American, Indian Australian etc.) staying in UK would tell you that these East African British Asians are one of the most ugly creatures (and I donât just mean in looks) on this planet earth.
When I was new in UK(London), I used to enthusiastically approach & try to talk to these East African British Asians but was shocked at their crude & abusive behavior(after years in London now, I have wisened up so try to avoid interacting with them as much as possible). The more you get to know them, the more you are shocked at the amount of poison they harbor inside them for Indians(Indians who have come to UK from India). Reality is there is no love lost in UK between most East African Brit Asians and Indians from India.
Some of the Sikhs who came to UK from East Africa were the ones who were in the forefront funding this âKhalistaniâ movement in the past & also created websites talking of Sikhism being a different religion etc. You have to see the fanaticism of some Sikhs in UK to believe itâ¦