05-22-2007, 05:38 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+May 22 2007, 12:15 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ May 22 2007, 12:15 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Even when he was caught and tortured, he refused to convert to Islam and he was perhaps more brave than any Sikh in history.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->You can praise the one without making superlative comparisons to others. This is not a contest. Also, when one person refuses to convert to islam under fatal torture and another does the same - how can anyone decide that one of these two is braver than the other?<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Even my nephew can understand that what I wrote above were two different thoughts no.1 when he was caught and tortured, he refused to convert to Islam and no.2 to sum up about Banda bahadur, he was perhaps nore brave than any Sikh in history so don't try to link 2 different thoughts together to come with an all together different conclusion 'Also, when one person refuses to convert to islam under fatal torture and another does the same - how can anyone decide that one of these two is braver than the other'?
Today when Sikhs claim they have nothing to do with Hinduism anymore, they even conveniently forget the sacrifices made by men like Banda Bahadur who fought on behalf of Sikhs.
And who has made you a judge and a jury anyway regarding what is 'superlative' and what is not? Regarding my making comparisons et all, next time I need your opinion, I will give it to you.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Don't just think of 1857, because there are many cases in Indian history where Dharmics have fought beside tyrants (muslims, Brits) against other Dharmics. It's not just the Sikhs who are guilty of this.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Two wrongs don't make a right....This arguement 'so what if their(sikhs) shirt is torn, your(Hindus) fly is open'...you think such an arguement is enough to absolve Sikhs of their role in 1857? Is this what you are saying?
One more thing, if any Hindu turned out to be a 'gaddar' in the past, most of us freely admit that person was a 'gaddar' rather than trying to obfuscate the issue by saying 'so what if this person did a wrong, others also may have done it'...
My brother-in-law is a Sikh and half my close relatives are Sikhs...No one here is trying to bad mouth Sikhs but let us not get so carried away that we try to 'whitewash' history and in the process we totally lose sense of objectivity while talking about the past.
Even my nephew can understand that what I wrote above were two different thoughts no.1 when he was caught and tortured, he refused to convert to Islam and no.2 to sum up about Banda bahadur, he was perhaps nore brave than any Sikh in history so don't try to link 2 different thoughts together to come with an all together different conclusion 'Also, when one person refuses to convert to islam under fatal torture and another does the same - how can anyone decide that one of these two is braver than the other'?
Today when Sikhs claim they have nothing to do with Hinduism anymore, they even conveniently forget the sacrifices made by men like Banda Bahadur who fought on behalf of Sikhs.
And who has made you a judge and a jury anyway regarding what is 'superlative' and what is not? Regarding my making comparisons et all, next time I need your opinion, I will give it to you.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Don't just think of 1857, because there are many cases in Indian history where Dharmics have fought beside tyrants (muslims, Brits) against other Dharmics. It's not just the Sikhs who are guilty of this.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Two wrongs don't make a right....This arguement 'so what if their(sikhs) shirt is torn, your(Hindus) fly is open'...you think such an arguement is enough to absolve Sikhs of their role in 1857? Is this what you are saying?
One more thing, if any Hindu turned out to be a 'gaddar' in the past, most of us freely admit that person was a 'gaddar' rather than trying to obfuscate the issue by saying 'so what if this person did a wrong, others also may have done it'...
My brother-in-law is a Sikh and half my close relatives are Sikhs...No one here is trying to bad mouth Sikhs but let us not get so carried away that we try to 'whitewash' history and in the process we totally lose sense of objectivity while talking about the past.