Dera Sucha Sauda -Sikh conflict in India

[Bharatvarsh]

The idea that Sikhs have only recently begun to distinguish themselves as separate from Hindus is false, this began way back in early 1900's with movements like Tat Khalsa and Singh Sabha, at first there were many among Sikhs who said they were Hindus but in the end the opposite faction won out and the idea of a Sikh identity as distinct from a Hindu one became dominant.

Also the idea of a distinct identity for the Khalsa (not Sikh but just the Khalsa panth) has quite a long history and even some pre British chronicles support this.

Let me give an example, many Hindus cite the quote "sakal jagat mo khalsa ...." but don't bother citing it, after a lot of search I managed to locate it here:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->skl jgq mo Kwlsw pMQ gwjY ]
jgY Drm ihMduk qurkn duMd BwjY ]
swry jgq ivc Kwlsw pMQ dw bol bwlw hovygw [
ihMdU Drm PYl jwvygw qy qurkW nUM BwjV pY jwvygI [
Throughout the world the Khalsa Panth will be prominent
The Hindu Dharma will prevail, and the Turks will be in flight.

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This is from Uggardanti, a composition on Devi but it is not accepted by all Sikhs, nextly Kahn Singh Nabha of 1899 Ham Hindu Nahin authorship, puts the break
after dharam, giving us jagai dharam, hinduk turk dund bhAjai. meaning may dharma awaken, and hindu turk both flee.

But in Uggardanti itself we find the following later on:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->XhI dyh AwigAw qurkn gih KpwaUN ]
gaU Gwq kw doK jg isauN imtwaUN ]
ieh hukm idE ik qurkW nUM mwr imtWvW [
gaU mwrn dw duK swry sMswr ivcoN imtw dyvW [
Command me to kill and destroy the Turks (Muslims).
Eliminate the killing of the cow from the entire universe.

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->duhUM pMQ mYN kpt iv`dXw clwnI ]
bhuV qIsrw pMQ kIjY prDwnI ]
dohW pMQW (ihMdU Aqy ieslwm) ivc kpt (mwVI) ividAw cl rhI hY [
Awky qIsry pMQ nUM pRDwnI (aucweI) bKSo [
Both religions (Hindu and Islam) are getting contaminated.
Come and elevate a third religion (panth).

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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->krhu Kwlsw pMQ qIsr pRvysw ]
jgih isMG joDy Drih nIl Bysw ]
qIsrw pMQ Kwlsw (ihMdU Aqy ieslwm qoN vKrw) bxwE [
isMG sUrbIr pRgt hox jyhVy nIly Bys vwilAW (ArQwq muslmwn=qurk) jo
nIly kpVy pwauNdy sn nUM A`gy Dr lYx = Bwv, Bjw dyx [ (XQw:- -"nIl
bsqR lY kpVy pihry, qurk pTwxI Aml kIAw -Awsw dI vwr ivc nIl bsqR
pwEx vwly qurkW (muslmwnW) nUM AwiKAw hY) [
Designate the third religion (panth) (different to the Hindu and
Islam).
The stalwart Singh warriors shall rise and make the blue clothed
Muslims (Turks) flee. (In 'Assa-di-Vaar' , the Muslims are the
wearers of blue clothes e.g. "Neel bastar ley kapre pehrey turk
pathani amal kiya". Meaning: - all the people started wearing blue,
the attire of the muslims and also followed their way of life.)

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I cannot say how authentic these translations are, but any rate in Khalsa literature the Panth is usually referred to as the "tisar panth".

The following is from a Pre British Rahit Nama (unfortunately there is no other translation of it online to check if the translation is faithful or not):
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Attitude Towards Hindus

Do not worship at cenotaphs, nor pay heed to any temple, religious vow, place of pilgrimage, goddess, god, fasting, 1-lindu worship, idols, mantras, or Brahmans. Do not make libations to the gods. Do not repeat the Gayatri, nor the evening prayers of Hindus. Do not worship at the cenotaph or tomb of some dead person. Do not hold a shraddh ceremony. Do not wear a sacred thread, feed a clean-shaven person, worship an idol, believe in an earthen image, or desert your own Guru. Do not observe the following: offerings to ancestors, Hindu evening ritual, bride-price, worship of the sun and planets, worship of gods, idol worship. Belief in the merits of particular phases of the moon is futile. Do not pierce your ears or your nose. Do not believe in the six darshans. Do not wear a tilak. Do not take food at a hair-cutting ceremony. Do not undergo a tonsure ceremony. A Brahman should not ride a bull. End the authority of the Hindu. A Singh should feed a Hindu. Having become a Singh, do not seek to learn the Hindu scriptures. You will become involved in the futile concerns of the Brahmans and will abandon the Guru's hymns. It is acceptable to have studied the Hindu scriptures before becoming a Singh. If a Brahman does not maintain his kes uncut and has not been initiated into the Khalsa do not accept food from his hands or make any offering to him. Those who worship Shankaracharya, Dattatreya, Ramanuja, or Gorakhnath will go to a horrible hell. [10, 12, 14, 30, 37, 40, 42, 44, 50, 61, 62, 69, 75, 76, 77, 83, 87, 88, 91]

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Interestingly we know that tilak was applied by Guru Arjun to Jahangir's son and Bhai Buddha also applied tilak to one of the Gurus as a sign of his succession to Guruship, but this later rahit nama asks them not to wear it.

There is a lot of other material, Hindus have not dealt with many of these things and as far as I am concerned it is futile to argue for a Hindu identity for Sikhs since they don't want to be labelled as such, I always felt that it's better Hindus concentrate on self declared Hindus and unite ourselves first rather than bothering about others.

Any way why are Hindus always begging this or that community to call themselves Hindus, have we got no sense of pride or what?