Three questions to Sandeep Bajwa ji.
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Satt = Truth
Santokh = Contentment
Sabr = Patience
Daya = Compassion
Dharam = Rightousness
and these five things are represented through the five symbols Kesh, Kara, KAchcha, Kirpan, Kangha.
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1. Is there a one-to-one correspondence between the above? e.g. Kesh->Truth etc?
2. These 5 are very much within the ageless 5 yams (Satya:Truth-Ahinsa:non-violence-Asteya:non-stealing/righteouseness-Bramhacharya-Aparigraha:non-accumulating) as taught in ashtangayoga, countless shastras and Acharyas of Dharma, including Ashta-patha of Bhagwan Buddha. Symbolism might be new, but message is ageless and consistant. Do Sikhs acknowledge this fact that the essence of Guru Granth attests to what Bhagwan Krishna explains, and also Bhagwan Buddha? (In my experience, the unfortunate thing is that most youngster Sikhs take objection to this, if shown). Is there anything that wise Sikhs or Gurudwaras doing to show the commonness to youngser Sikhs?
3. If you translate Sikh=Shishya and that Hindus today need to become Sikh, I wouldnt object in that catholic sense of Sikhi. But you also mentioned that if a person today follows any living Guru in human form, he is automatically a non-Sikh. Meaning Sri Guru Govind Singh was the 'last' human Guru, and humanity will never be blessed with another Guru in human form? AT least this part is where the biggest inconsistence of Dharmic traditions and Sikh"ism" come in play. Other Dharmic traditions tell us that the parampara of living Gurus, appearing from time to time, to teach humanity will not come to an end. Therefore this doubt. Have you first hand studied the message of tenth Guru to interpret the above? Insistance upon 'Last Guru and no more' thing is really a foundation of Messianic religions, and not Dharmic traditions. Is it possible that the tenth Guru may have very well designated Sri Grath Sahib as the 11th Guru but might not have meant 'no more human Gurus'? (just asking. If you have considered the question in that light.)
Finally, Dharma followers need to be united by so many things that bind them together, rather than be divided upon so little that divides. Got to learn this much from our history at least. 'One who does not learn from his history, is bound to live through it again.'
<!--QuoteBegin-sbajwa+May 22 2007, 09:52 AM-->QUOTE(sbajwa @ May 22 2007, 09:52 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->to be towards
Satt = Truth
Santokh = Contentment
Sabr = Patience
Daya = Compassion
Dharam = Rightousness
and these five things are represented through the five symbols Kesh, Kara, KAchcha, Kirpan, Kangha.
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1. Is there a one-to-one correspondence between the above? e.g. Kesh->Truth etc?
2. These 5 are very much within the ageless 5 yams (Satya:Truth-Ahinsa:non-violence-Asteya:non-stealing/righteouseness-Bramhacharya-Aparigraha:non-accumulating) as taught in ashtangayoga, countless shastras and Acharyas of Dharma, including Ashta-patha of Bhagwan Buddha. Symbolism might be new, but message is ageless and consistant. Do Sikhs acknowledge this fact that the essence of Guru Granth attests to what Bhagwan Krishna explains, and also Bhagwan Buddha? (In my experience, the unfortunate thing is that most youngster Sikhs take objection to this, if shown). Is there anything that wise Sikhs or Gurudwaras doing to show the commonness to youngser Sikhs?
3. If you translate Sikh=Shishya and that Hindus today need to become Sikh, I wouldnt object in that catholic sense of Sikhi. But you also mentioned that if a person today follows any living Guru in human form, he is automatically a non-Sikh. Meaning Sri Guru Govind Singh was the 'last' human Guru, and humanity will never be blessed with another Guru in human form? AT least this part is where the biggest inconsistence of Dharmic traditions and Sikh"ism" come in play. Other Dharmic traditions tell us that the parampara of living Gurus, appearing from time to time, to teach humanity will not come to an end. Therefore this doubt. Have you first hand studied the message of tenth Guru to interpret the above? Insistance upon 'Last Guru and no more' thing is really a foundation of Messianic religions, and not Dharmic traditions. Is it possible that the tenth Guru may have very well designated Sri Grath Sahib as the 11th Guru but might not have meant 'no more human Gurus'? (just asking. If you have considered the question in that light.)
Finally, Dharma followers need to be united by so many things that bind them together, rather than be divided upon so little that divides. Got to learn this much from our history at least. 'One who does not learn from his history, is bound to live through it again.'