05-30-2007, 01:17 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+May 29 2007, 10:09 PM-->QUOTE(Bodhi @ May 29 2007, 10:09 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Did Guru Nanak Dev really visited Makka? - I mean inside Makka, up to Kaba.Â
Aren't kafirs disallowed from entering that town, lest they pollute it? Or is that restriction a new Wahabi addition?
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um.... There is evidence of Guru Nanak actually being at Baghdad and at Basra., he took a boat from somewhere in Gujarat and went all the way to Basra then Baghdad. Mecca stuff is all folklore., at that time (1500's A.D) Mecca was top of the world. British and europeans were at least 200-300 years away from industrialization. The Khalifa ruled from Baghdad while Islamic world was from Spain all the way to Dhaka., It was the golden age of Islam where many poets became Sufi and question islamic ways (they were tolerated). Even Ghalib in 1850s wrote so many things against Islam (like drinking whiskey in Mosque, etc) without any harm done against him.
Wahabi's only came to power in Saudi Arabia around 1880s-1890s... earlier all Shias, Sufis, even christians and Jews lived peacefully in Arabia. Deoband in India was also started around the same time (as Ibn-Wahab in Arabia)., Naqshbandi Muslims in India started getting power with Jahangir's rise but during Aurungzeb is when they crossed all limits. Vast majority of Pakistani muslims were converted during Aurungzeb rule (ended in 1660s-1707) and through Naqshbandi fanatic people like Sheikh Ahmad Sarhindi.
Guru Nanak dev ji had two disciples., Mardana and Bala. Folklore is that all three visited Mecca where Guru Nanak was sleeping with his feet towards Kaba when somebody got irritated., and you know the rest of the story.
Aren't kafirs disallowed from entering that town, lest they pollute it? Or is that restriction a new Wahabi addition?
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um.... There is evidence of Guru Nanak actually being at Baghdad and at Basra., he took a boat from somewhere in Gujarat and went all the way to Basra then Baghdad. Mecca stuff is all folklore., at that time (1500's A.D) Mecca was top of the world. British and europeans were at least 200-300 years away from industrialization. The Khalifa ruled from Baghdad while Islamic world was from Spain all the way to Dhaka., It was the golden age of Islam where many poets became Sufi and question islamic ways (they were tolerated). Even Ghalib in 1850s wrote so many things against Islam (like drinking whiskey in Mosque, etc) without any harm done against him.
Wahabi's only came to power in Saudi Arabia around 1880s-1890s... earlier all Shias, Sufis, even christians and Jews lived peacefully in Arabia. Deoband in India was also started around the same time (as Ibn-Wahab in Arabia)., Naqshbandi Muslims in India started getting power with Jahangir's rise but during Aurungzeb is when they crossed all limits. Vast majority of Pakistani muslims were converted during Aurungzeb rule (ended in 1660s-1707) and through Naqshbandi fanatic people like Sheikh Ahmad Sarhindi.
Guru Nanak dev ji had two disciples., Mardana and Bala. Folklore is that all three visited Mecca where Guru Nanak was sleeping with his feet towards Kaba when somebody got irritated., and you know the rest of the story.