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<!--QuoteBegin-acharya+Jun 6 2007, 01:58 AM-->QUOTE(acharya @ Jun 6 2007, 01:58 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/05/27/hea...hristian-india/[right][snapback]69806[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Christians and Muslims are getting success only because our Hindu Leaders , Hindu Saints , Shankaracharyas , Hindu Organisations like RSS , VHP , BJP , ABVP , Shiv Sena and all other so called claim to be <b>superior hindus</b> or Brahmins who are leaders of every top Hindu Organisations are doing nothing but enjoying fruits of power and all facilities.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Oh, now we have to believe that all the Hindu organisations opposing anti-Hindu movements are evil merely because a pseudonymous character - who makes some huge <b>unverifiable claims</b> - says so?
He <b>claims</b> he worked in RSS for 41 years.
That would make him at least 60 or thereabouts now. (And able to write so well in English, so adept at using the internet and blogs - after being in the RSS for so long - how interesting. Not quite the illiterati that the psecular newspapers claim for the RSS members.) But this may not signify.
More amazing is that he knows the missionary arguments inside out. What a shame that he makes such bad mistakes then when it comes to exhibiting an (at least) equally intimate knowledge of Hindus, Hindu orgs or Hinduism.
With this easy statement of "41 yrs of RSS service" he tries to create a sense of authority in readers' minds. Using it, he then claims all these Hindu groups are casteist and whatnot, in order to cast aspersions on them; without readers daring to question him on it.
Oh, and the usual missionary spiel about 'brahmins are in control' and an interesting new kind of argument: 'they are the ones dividing the country':
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->99% of all saints , shankaracharyas , gurus , kathavachaks , RSS Leaders are all brahmins . They believe in casteism and promote only brahminism and policies in favour of brahmins to get power.They try and divide Hindus into SC ,ST , OBC , MBC , BC, Dalits ,etc and try to sit on their top and dictate them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->(1) Is Sonia Maino a brahmin? Is Manmohan "islamis must have first claim on resources" Singh a brahmin? Is Laloo one? I'm not even talking about Brahmanas here, just the word 'brahmin' which appears to mean someone from some particular communities.
And (except for some communists whose distant ancestors may possibly have been Brahmanas) any of those who are pushing for creating further reservations and causing more groups to self-label themselves as 'Dalit' - are they 'brahmins' too?
Then who in the world is it that is actually pushing for fragmentation and a caste-conscious, divided society? Psecular, Christo and communist stooges. No Hindus involved there, so we can leave out the subset thereof that is brahmin communities.
(2) How much this 'Hindu' making all these allegations appears to know about 'Shankaracharyas', for him to totally ignore what the Kanchi Math has been doing, for instance.
By the way, yes, all Hindu Saints are Brahmanas. So is Valmiki and so is Vyasa. All Rishis are. It's *by definition*.
And all self-claimed 'brahmin' communists, pseculars and other liars - in spite of waving any 'brahmin' badge - are mlecchas. Again, *by definition*.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->After analysing , I came to conclusion that Brahmins are the majority who support the evil caste and jati vyavastha.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->What analysis was that? The one he learnt by-heart at church or mosque or Komrade-gathering? Insinuating his made-up pseudo-character into a blog and then make all the usual missionary claims. (With no proof whatsoever, too. What possesses anyone to believe him.)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->If Brahmins leave their arrogance , pride , casteism and brahminism and support <b>Real Hindutva</b> and Nationalism , They will rule India foreverâ¦â¦â¦â¦â¦<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Many cryptos have been repeating these long-standing missionary statements in sites across the internet.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->If Brahmins ... They will rule India forever<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->What's all this about ruling India? Is he referring to the Ramayanam being about a Rama? But he was a Kshatriya. My mistake. It must be the Mahabharatam, then. No, wait. All of the rulers were Kshatriyas too. All the heroes we've been rooting for to fight evil and bad, the royal ruling heroes of our Puranas, immortalised forever in the hearts of Hindus - they're all (Gasp! Shock! Cardiac Arrest!) Kshatriyas...
Mauryas and Shivaji, the Reddy Kings fighting the islamis.
They didn't teach that in christian school, did they.
Here's a dude who uses all the terms that only an anti-Hindu would use: 'Dalits' (instead of Harijan; although ignorant pseculars use this term too), 'brahminism' as if Brahmanas practise a different religion from the 'Hindus' (who are now apparently a separate class altogether <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo--> ), and trying to blackmark the RSS. And with mere say-so; no evidence.
All the marks of a non-Hindu - I'd have thought this conclusion quite obvious. Every missionary fib is in there, and yet people on that blog were responding to this guy as if he were instantly trustworthy.
All you need is to claim you're a Hindu. Like the guy in question. He tossed in a mention of supporting some 'Real Hindutva' just so that the credulous Hindus reading won't suspect.
Pseudo-Hindus are very useful: they're like adding a drop of oil into a large bottle of water. Low-intensity spam: small efforts, huge dividends if you manage to convince even some of the gullible readers - the kind who instantly believe any lies, but find it hard to believe any truths.
Why does anyone accept anything this guy says at face value, when he has repeated every single line in the Missionary Handbook For India? Oh, I forgot. That's right. He's interspersed his little post with "Jai Hind" and other endearing little statements like his finale:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I am Hindu first and Hindu last.
To live every moment of my life to serve Bharatmata and
sacrifice my life when time comes to defend Bharatmata.
Jai Hindu Rashtra.
Jai Hind
Jai Bhavani.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->That proves it, then. Because no impostor <i>could possibly</i> have made such affirmations. Our enemies wouldn't lie: christoislamis, communists. They always tell the absolute truth, don't ya know. They would find it too hard to copy & paste Hindu, Rashtra, Hind (just in case someone missed the preceeding line on 'Hindu Rashtra'), Bhavani, Bharatmata.
And remember: he said that he's been in the RSS for 41 years, that makes him <i>reliable</i>. So he must know what he's talking about when he says the RSS, VHP, BJP, whatever all are casteist/divisive/whatnot. Because anything anyone claims on the internet (without giving any source for us to verify his words) <i>must</i> be true, after all. It's <i>inconceivable</i> that someone could just be lying behind an assumed name. So by all means, let's take all his words as the absolute truth.
If someone in plain clothes walked up to you to arrest you for some preposterous crime, you'd ask to see their badge wouldn't you? Then why, when someone - merely <i>claiming</i> to be a Hindu - slanders established Hindu groups like the RSS, would any automatically believe it? <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
<!--QuoteBegin-acharya+Jun 6 2007, 01:58 AM-->QUOTE(acharya @ Jun 6 2007, 01:58 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/05/27/hea...hristian-india/[right][snapback]69806[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Christians and Muslims are getting success only because our Hindu Leaders , Hindu Saints , Shankaracharyas , Hindu Organisations like RSS , VHP , BJP , ABVP , Shiv Sena and all other so called claim to be <b>superior hindus</b> or Brahmins who are leaders of every top Hindu Organisations are doing nothing but enjoying fruits of power and all facilities.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Oh, now we have to believe that all the Hindu organisations opposing anti-Hindu movements are evil merely because a pseudonymous character - who makes some huge <b>unverifiable claims</b> - says so?
He <b>claims</b> he worked in RSS for 41 years.
That would make him at least 60 or thereabouts now. (And able to write so well in English, so adept at using the internet and blogs - after being in the RSS for so long - how interesting. Not quite the illiterati that the psecular newspapers claim for the RSS members.) But this may not signify.
More amazing is that he knows the missionary arguments inside out. What a shame that he makes such bad mistakes then when it comes to exhibiting an (at least) equally intimate knowledge of Hindus, Hindu orgs or Hinduism.
With this easy statement of "41 yrs of RSS service" he tries to create a sense of authority in readers' minds. Using it, he then claims all these Hindu groups are casteist and whatnot, in order to cast aspersions on them; without readers daring to question him on it.
Oh, and the usual missionary spiel about 'brahmins are in control' and an interesting new kind of argument: 'they are the ones dividing the country':
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->99% of all saints , shankaracharyas , gurus , kathavachaks , RSS Leaders are all brahmins . They believe in casteism and promote only brahminism and policies in favour of brahmins to get power.They try and divide Hindus into SC ,ST , OBC , MBC , BC, Dalits ,etc and try to sit on their top and dictate them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->(1) Is Sonia Maino a brahmin? Is Manmohan "islamis must have first claim on resources" Singh a brahmin? Is Laloo one? I'm not even talking about Brahmanas here, just the word 'brahmin' which appears to mean someone from some particular communities.
And (except for some communists whose distant ancestors may possibly have been Brahmanas) any of those who are pushing for creating further reservations and causing more groups to self-label themselves as 'Dalit' - are they 'brahmins' too?
Then who in the world is it that is actually pushing for fragmentation and a caste-conscious, divided society? Psecular, Christo and communist stooges. No Hindus involved there, so we can leave out the subset thereof that is brahmin communities.
(2) How much this 'Hindu' making all these allegations appears to know about 'Shankaracharyas', for him to totally ignore what the Kanchi Math has been doing, for instance.
By the way, yes, all Hindu Saints are Brahmanas. So is Valmiki and so is Vyasa. All Rishis are. It's *by definition*.
And all self-claimed 'brahmin' communists, pseculars and other liars - in spite of waving any 'brahmin' badge - are mlecchas. Again, *by definition*.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->After analysing , I came to conclusion that Brahmins are the majority who support the evil caste and jati vyavastha.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->What analysis was that? The one he learnt by-heart at church or mosque or Komrade-gathering? Insinuating his made-up pseudo-character into a blog and then make all the usual missionary claims. (With no proof whatsoever, too. What possesses anyone to believe him.)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->If Brahmins leave their arrogance , pride , casteism and brahminism and support <b>Real Hindutva</b> and Nationalism , They will rule India foreverâ¦â¦â¦â¦â¦<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Many cryptos have been repeating these long-standing missionary statements in sites across the internet.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->If Brahmins ... They will rule India forever<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->What's all this about ruling India? Is he referring to the Ramayanam being about a Rama? But he was a Kshatriya. My mistake. It must be the Mahabharatam, then. No, wait. All of the rulers were Kshatriyas too. All the heroes we've been rooting for to fight evil and bad, the royal ruling heroes of our Puranas, immortalised forever in the hearts of Hindus - they're all (Gasp! Shock! Cardiac Arrest!) Kshatriyas...
Mauryas and Shivaji, the Reddy Kings fighting the islamis.
They didn't teach that in christian school, did they.
Here's a dude who uses all the terms that only an anti-Hindu would use: 'Dalits' (instead of Harijan; although ignorant pseculars use this term too), 'brahminism' as if Brahmanas practise a different religion from the 'Hindus' (who are now apparently a separate class altogether <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo--> ), and trying to blackmark the RSS. And with mere say-so; no evidence.
All the marks of a non-Hindu - I'd have thought this conclusion quite obvious. Every missionary fib is in there, and yet people on that blog were responding to this guy as if he were instantly trustworthy.
All you need is to claim you're a Hindu. Like the guy in question. He tossed in a mention of supporting some 'Real Hindutva' just so that the credulous Hindus reading won't suspect.
Pseudo-Hindus are very useful: they're like adding a drop of oil into a large bottle of water. Low-intensity spam: small efforts, huge dividends if you manage to convince even some of the gullible readers - the kind who instantly believe any lies, but find it hard to believe any truths.
Why does anyone accept anything this guy says at face value, when he has repeated every single line in the Missionary Handbook For India? Oh, I forgot. That's right. He's interspersed his little post with "Jai Hind" and other endearing little statements like his finale:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I am Hindu first and Hindu last.
To live every moment of my life to serve Bharatmata and
sacrifice my life when time comes to defend Bharatmata.
Jai Hindu Rashtra.
Jai Hind
Jai Bhavani.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->That proves it, then. Because no impostor <i>could possibly</i> have made such affirmations. Our enemies wouldn't lie: christoislamis, communists. They always tell the absolute truth, don't ya know. They would find it too hard to copy & paste Hindu, Rashtra, Hind (just in case someone missed the preceeding line on 'Hindu Rashtra'), Bhavani, Bharatmata.
And remember: he said that he's been in the RSS for 41 years, that makes him <i>reliable</i>. So he must know what he's talking about when he says the RSS, VHP, BJP, whatever all are casteist/divisive/whatnot. Because anything anyone claims on the internet (without giving any source for us to verify his words) <i>must</i> be true, after all. It's <i>inconceivable</i> that someone could just be lying behind an assumed name. So by all means, let's take all his words as the absolute truth.
If someone in plain clothes walked up to you to arrest you for some preposterous crime, you'd ask to see their badge wouldn't you? Then why, when someone - merely <i>claiming</i> to be a Hindu - slanders established Hindu groups like the RSS, would any automatically believe it? <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo-->