06-18-2007, 04:25 AM
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First off, let me be very frank in my admiration of your command on the language and the clarity of your arguments. I wish I was as good at both.
You rant is an insightful albeit sarcastic exposé of this meaningless and trite "Are E. Indians whiteâ discussion.
I'm somewhat exasperated at the political "incorrectness" of my fellow countrymen and more than angry at their double standards and outright racist behavior and attitudes. The vast majority of them (east Indians) are prejudiced racists, all hindus are racist to the core. Their prejudiced views come out in discussion and statements when they are agitated and otherwise unaware, and like a frog out of a smelly hole, they cannot comprehend the richness and diversity of the bigger pond of the world and have to always compare the bountiful fruits of the world pond with the assumed greatness of the smelly little hole they came from.
Now the idiot OP wrote: "We *get* a lot of things that the others dont (how inner peace can help, the benefits of non violence, our experiments with vegitarianism, the merits of placing one's parents over and above everything else, the absolute priority of education over every other pursuit (Geeks do really get the girls back in India!) et al). Americans are just not ready for this sort of thing (unlike the Chinese, the influx of Indians has been recent, the bulk of which is not more than 20 years ago). For now, Americans are content with the generalization that Indians "stink", literally and figuratively. Oh well. You cant force someone to appreciate your true worth. "
I have serious problems with generalizations and arguments of his kind. They betray a deep desire to lie to those that they think don't know better. It's also betrays a deep cultural and I'd say the hindu religions desire to lie about everything and to everyone and hope to hell to get away with.
It's presumptuous to assume that Americans don't have inner peace or are violent and that east indians arenât violent at all and that vegetarianism is better than eating meat and somehow Americans don't respect their parents and hate education.
I think Americans are healthy and eat well, eating meat has served the western world well. You have only to compare the average American and the average East Indian to get what I mean.
Not all east Indians have inner peace, if at all. A full 25% of the population is "untouchables" according to the hindu religion. Now according to the idiot who's posting here, maybe rotting in a slum outside the village with pigs and open sewers while avoiding starving to death may mean inner peace to him.. but I beg to differ. Also for a country with inner peace there is an amazing amount of rape and murders in the four main cities. Brides are still burnt for more money and older parents made destitute and pushed out of homes, left to beg and die on the streets. Rest assured at least a full quarter of the East Indian population feels dis-enfranchised and donât feel lucky to be born in India. The flood of east Indians clamoring to come in should clue you in.
Violence : Separatist movements in the north, north and naxal rebels in central india. South has tamil tigers bases, the same guys who invented and wrote the book on suicide bombing. Not to mention land lords killing "untouchable" laborers and raping their women for not working for next to nothing in their fields. The only reason we donât have a lone gunman kill 10 to 30 at a time is because guns are not easily available. Bombers blow up far more and armed gangs as well as nexals kill far more in India. In the country side private armies sponsored by the land lords kill plenty of defenseless untouchable laborers.
Respect to parents: This is the only country and religion that has a village for widows, still in existence, thriving where you can send you old mom to die in poverty and sexual exploitation. Talk about respect for your parents. Walk through the streets of Mumbai and New Delhi, and you'll see old people begging because their children won't support them. Go to any old age shelters in india and you'll see respect for your parents in the abandoned elderly folks. This is the country Mother Teresa set up shelters because there was a need for it.
Education : This explains why 75% to 80% of the country (india) is illiterate, also despite centuries of British rule, the average east Indian cannot spell or write a coherent sentence in English, let alone speak it well. East Indians come running to do their masters here in the US because universities in India stink. The US has the best universities in the world period. Only a damn fool would say the US does not respect education and that Americans don't get it.
Stink : East Indians stink, I am east indian, I can't talk with my countrymen after lunch, not only is there BO and curry smells, most of them don't brush their teeth either. This isn't a white man or black man saying it. It's is an Indian untouchable who comes from a slum outside a small village in a backward rural state telling you... yes, we east indians stink. This is not about prejudice.. it's just a plain fact. I hate talking to my country men coz they wonât buy a two dollar stick of deo but rather stink up the whole place. Then they will brag about how much money they make.
It's funny how this idiot comes to the greatest country in the world (USA) and preaches his outright lies and "indian" values. Why if Indian values are so great is the country (India) a slum coast to coast? East Indians (Hinduism) are the only people responsible for running the country (india) into the ground. Ask any Indian, and heâll blame the british for all of india ills.
I use the third person "them" to separate myself from my country men, with whom I've a very tortured and now fast disintegrating relationship. I don't really want to put up with the bigotry and outright racist behaviour of hindu/east indians. Also I don't think I share anything in common with east indians. Our (the dalits or untouchables) culture is very different, we've been forced and are still forced to live in seperate slums out side the main villages and cities.. how then now can I suddenly identify with these people. The art and culture or lack of it, of india is not the art and culture of my people (the dalits/untouchables).
I'm an untouchable in india, I don't care for that country, it is in my eyes the worst place on earth with no human values and a religion (hinduism) that preaches divisions hatred and lies.
Me sticking up for my country men would be the same as an afro American who's been forced to live in a ghetto and discriminated against by white men asked to stick up for the same people who've abused and tortured him his whole life.... so f*(k you east Indians, my country men.. you assholes, you bunch of posers.
And yes.. almost all and any "east indian" will be thrilled give up his right nad for a chance to be called "white". It's the caste system all over again. They'll never get over it.
-The Untouchable