07-26-2007, 10:45 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-dhu+Jul 25 2007, 02:22 PM-->QUOTE(dhu @ Jul 25 2007, 02:22 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Honsol+Jul 25 2007, 01:00 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Honsol @ Jul 25 2007, 01:00 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->The 4 cultures you mention(Egipt,Indus,Yellow river) are in fact bronze age centers not neolithic ones.The Danube culture develop only coperr age,not bronze age.
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So it's north iraq versus south iraq? West Bank versus Egypt? upstairs mideast versus downstairs mideast? This sounds like Saraswati versus Indus routine common among indologists.
I don't know if you are familiar with something called fertile crescent. It's is a blanket term for the formative civilizations in the mideast. In this area, Neolithic to metal age transitions as well as every other index of civilization precedes the same in europe. Thus europe is generally agreed to be derivative. The great River Valley civilzations each had their beginnings in neolithic era and do roughly correspond with the original neolithic centers.
elementary school textbook here:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Rivers are the basis for four great early civilizations to grow. Around rivers man could build farms and large cities.
The Fertile Crescent is the area in the Middle East that runs from what is now Turkey through Syria and Iraq.
The Tigris and Euphrates rivers run through this area. The plain that runs between these two rivers is known as Mesopotamia ( Greek for land between two rivers)
These rivers would flood and the silt left over would be so fertile that the farmers could raise surpluses of wheat and barley. Which allowed the area to develop villages.
People known as Sumerians populated this area known as Mesopotamia. The good soil attracted the Sumerians to the area but there were a few disadvantages of the area.
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Im well aware wht fertile crescent is.But the first was the hill agriculture.On the hills of Kurdistan,Syria,Israel we see the first neolithic centers.Megarh is also on the hills.After some time,the valley agriculture become more succesfull.
Your map doesnt represent the whole fertile crescent,ignore Indochina,Turkey and central America.
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So it's north iraq versus south iraq? West Bank versus Egypt? upstairs mideast versus downstairs mideast? This sounds like Saraswati versus Indus routine common among indologists.
I don't know if you are familiar with something called fertile crescent. It's is a blanket term for the formative civilizations in the mideast. In this area, Neolithic to metal age transitions as well as every other index of civilization precedes the same in europe. Thus europe is generally agreed to be derivative. The great River Valley civilzations each had their beginnings in neolithic era and do roughly correspond with the original neolithic centers.
elementary school textbook here:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Rivers are the basis for four great early civilizations to grow. Around rivers man could build farms and large cities.
The Fertile Crescent is the area in the Middle East that runs from what is now Turkey through Syria and Iraq.
The Tigris and Euphrates rivers run through this area. The plain that runs between these two rivers is known as Mesopotamia ( Greek for land between two rivers)
These rivers would flood and the silt left over would be so fertile that the farmers could raise surpluses of wheat and barley. Which allowed the area to develop villages.
People known as Sumerians populated this area known as Mesopotamia. The good soil attracted the Sumerians to the area but there were a few disadvantages of the area.
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Im well aware wht fertile crescent is.But the first was the hill agriculture.On the hills of Kurdistan,Syria,Israel we see the first neolithic centers.Megarh is also on the hills.After some time,the valley agriculture become more succesfull.
Your map doesnt represent the whole fertile crescent,ignore Indochina,Turkey and central America.