09-19-2007, 02:59 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Sep 19 2007, 03:17 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Sep 19 2007, 03:17 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Bharatvarsh+Sep 18 2007, 08:53 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bharatvarsh @ Sep 18 2007, 08:53 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Is the nosestud a native thing or a later influence after Muslims came.
I found this:
http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/09/18/if-...ilak-was-funny/
This is also there in TN and South which did not have as much Muslim influence, anyone has a clue?[right][snapback]73305[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Among S Indian Hindus it is a highly religious thing, together with toe rings.
I heard my older aunts and grandmother talking to my sister about these things in the period leading up to, and just after, her wedding. (But she has not got her nose pierced so far, don't know if she will.) Ear studs also had some significance to do with marriage, but can't remember...
..With the exception of muslim women of the Indian subcontinent, I have never seen islamis with nosestuds. For instance, I've never seen Tunisian women wear it (I've seen a video of Tunisian homelife) nor the few Iraqi and Afghan women I've seen here. Don't know about real-life Iranian muslim women, but can't recall as the ones I've seen on TV programs had any nosestuds.
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I have never seen any Arab woman or women from the middle-east in general wear a nose-ring. Among muslims, the nose-ring seems to be common only among those from the Indian subcontinent. Again, there are regional variations within India in propensity to wear a nose-ring: a tamilian muslim woman is more likely to wear a nose-ring than a muslim from the north. Unlike for hindus, the nose-ring is not seen as mandatory for Indian muslims. Hence, the inter-religious influence, if any, of the nose-ring must be from hinduism to islam after the mughal invasions. In the south, particularly TN, nose-rings are seen as mandatory for married Hindu women, especially both nostrils. For unmarried girls, the nose-ring is worn only on one side (I forget which side denotes unmarried status), and after marriage, it is typically worn on both sides.
In fact, one of the muslim websites - I forget which one - had a debate not long ago about whether it is acceptable for muslim women to wear a nose-ring. This debate in that muslim website was started I presume because there are many young muslim women living in the West, who would like to wear a nose-ring for ornamental purpose, or do other types of body-piercing, just like their western counterparts, but are not sure how islam treates body-piercing. Based on the discussion, it seemed like many muslims of Arab origin frown upon body piercing and call it unislamic, whereas those from the Indian subcontinent think its OK. Thus, this lends me to believe that any influence has to be from hinduism to Islam than the other way around.
I found this:
http://satyameva-jayate.org/2007/09/18/if-...ilak-was-funny/
This is also there in TN and South which did not have as much Muslim influence, anyone has a clue?[right][snapback]73305[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Among S Indian Hindus it is a highly religious thing, together with toe rings.
I heard my older aunts and grandmother talking to my sister about these things in the period leading up to, and just after, her wedding. (But she has not got her nose pierced so far, don't know if she will.) Ear studs also had some significance to do with marriage, but can't remember...
..With the exception of muslim women of the Indian subcontinent, I have never seen islamis with nosestuds. For instance, I've never seen Tunisian women wear it (I've seen a video of Tunisian homelife) nor the few Iraqi and Afghan women I've seen here. Don't know about real-life Iranian muslim women, but can't recall as the ones I've seen on TV programs had any nosestuds.
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I have never seen any Arab woman or women from the middle-east in general wear a nose-ring. Among muslims, the nose-ring seems to be common only among those from the Indian subcontinent. Again, there are regional variations within India in propensity to wear a nose-ring: a tamilian muslim woman is more likely to wear a nose-ring than a muslim from the north. Unlike for hindus, the nose-ring is not seen as mandatory for Indian muslims. Hence, the inter-religious influence, if any, of the nose-ring must be from hinduism to islam after the mughal invasions. In the south, particularly TN, nose-rings are seen as mandatory for married Hindu women, especially both nostrils. For unmarried girls, the nose-ring is worn only on one side (I forget which side denotes unmarried status), and after marriage, it is typically worn on both sides.
In fact, one of the muslim websites - I forget which one - had a debate not long ago about whether it is acceptable for muslim women to wear a nose-ring. This debate in that muslim website was started I presume because there are many young muslim women living in the West, who would like to wear a nose-ring for ornamental purpose, or do other types of body-piercing, just like their western counterparts, but are not sure how islam treates body-piercing. Based on the discussion, it seemed like many muslims of Arab origin frown upon body piercing and call it unislamic, whereas those from the Indian subcontinent think its OK. Thus, this lends me to believe that any influence has to be from hinduism to Islam than the other way around.