09-21-2007, 10:37 PM
Looks like Ambika SOni was able to show that the corrections suggested by her were not incorporated by the Addl Solicitor General(ASG) ie the Law Ministry. Why.
Also Jairam Ramesh and RK Dhawan were doing a hatchet job either under mistake or willfully. Why?
Meanwhile Pioneer has this report of LKA MK polemics and a background on the DMK and Ramayana.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Stop abusing Ram, Advani tells Karunanidhi</b>
K Venkataramanan | Chennai
<b>...as DMK chief makes more offensive remarks</b>
Senior BJP leader LK Advani on Thursday demanded that Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M Karunanidhi withdraw his disparaging comments on Lord Ram. But within a shortwhile, the DMK leader defiantly rejected the demand and challenged the BJP veteran to a debate on Valmiki Ramayan.Â
Karunanidhi also said Ram was 'as much a lie as the Ganga and the Himalayas are true', in a reference to Union Law Minister HR Bhardwaj's observation that Ram was as true as the Ganges and the Himalayas.
"I have not said the sort of things that Valmiki had said about Ram. Valmiki had even referred to Ram as a drunkard. Have I said such things?" Karunanidhi asked when reporters approached him for his reaction to Advani's demand made at a Press conference earlier in the day.
Karunanidhi, invoking the names of Jawaharlal Nehru and C Rajagopalachari, contended that there were several eminent authors who had described the Ramayan as a mere story. And he repeated.
"Though Karunanidhi is an atheist, I appeal to him to withdraw his remarks. Atheists in Europe and America do not wound religious sentiments in this manner," Advani had said earlier. One had heard of doubts being expressed about miracles attributed to revered religious figures like Jesus, Moses or Mohammed the Prophet, but none had so far questioned the existence of Jesus, Moses or Mohammed, the BJP leader said.
However, Karunanidhi insisted that what he had said about Ram - that there was no historical proof that he had ever existed or that a bridge called 'Ram Setu' had been constructed by him. "Law Minister HR Bhardwaj had said Ram was as true as the Ganges and the Himalayas. What I say is equally true and valid," the DMK leader said.
"Let Advani go through the Valmiki Ramayan in its entirety and come for a debate on a common platform. Is he ready for such a debate?" Karunanidhi asked.
However, in what appeared to be a concession on the Ram Setu issue, the Chief Minister said the object of the Sethusamudram project was not to destroy the undersea structure but to bring prosperity to the region and aid faster shipping and trade.
Answering a question on whether he would agree to the Sethusamudram project being implemented without causing damage to 'Ram Setu', he said: "Breaking the bridge is not the project's objective. I only want the project to be implemented at the earliest as it will reduce shipping expenses and promote trade. It has been delayed for more than a 100 years."
<b>Karunanidhi's remarks on Ramayan reflect a key tenet of the Dravidian movement in its early days that the Hindu epic reflected an age-old conflict between Aryans and Dravidians. Dravidar Kazhagam, the parent organisation of all Dravidian parties in Tamil Nadu, holds that the Ramayan is the story of an Aryan prince defeating a Dravidian king and that it has been written from the victor's point of view, painting the defeated king as a demon.</b>
<b>DMK founder Karunanidhi's mentor and the party's first Chief Minister, the late CN Annadurai wrote a monograph about 50 years ago attacking medieval Tamil poet Kamban for rendering the story of Ramayan in epic form in Tamil. Quoting erotic and sensual extracts and sexual imagery used by the poet in his classic, Annadurai accused him of bringing in a base form of Aryan literature into Tamil and also of corrupting Dravidian culture by infusing Aryan elements.</b>
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Two points.
1) The Arayan invasion theory is wrong. So Aryan Dravidian divide is worng and false.
2) Was C Annadorai a Christian or educated at Christian colleges? His remarks shw a puritanical bent of mind usually got from Christian indoctrination. Why is he attacking Kamban?
Also what was JLN's views on Rajagopalachari's Ramayana?
Also Jairam Ramesh and RK Dhawan were doing a hatchet job either under mistake or willfully. Why?
Meanwhile Pioneer has this report of LKA MK polemics and a background on the DMK and Ramayana.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Stop abusing Ram, Advani tells Karunanidhi</b>
K Venkataramanan | Chennai
<b>...as DMK chief makes more offensive remarks</b>
Senior BJP leader LK Advani on Thursday demanded that Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M Karunanidhi withdraw his disparaging comments on Lord Ram. But within a shortwhile, the DMK leader defiantly rejected the demand and challenged the BJP veteran to a debate on Valmiki Ramayan.Â
Karunanidhi also said Ram was 'as much a lie as the Ganga and the Himalayas are true', in a reference to Union Law Minister HR Bhardwaj's observation that Ram was as true as the Ganges and the Himalayas.
"I have not said the sort of things that Valmiki had said about Ram. Valmiki had even referred to Ram as a drunkard. Have I said such things?" Karunanidhi asked when reporters approached him for his reaction to Advani's demand made at a Press conference earlier in the day.
Karunanidhi, invoking the names of Jawaharlal Nehru and C Rajagopalachari, contended that there were several eminent authors who had described the Ramayan as a mere story. And he repeated.
"Though Karunanidhi is an atheist, I appeal to him to withdraw his remarks. Atheists in Europe and America do not wound religious sentiments in this manner," Advani had said earlier. One had heard of doubts being expressed about miracles attributed to revered religious figures like Jesus, Moses or Mohammed the Prophet, but none had so far questioned the existence of Jesus, Moses or Mohammed, the BJP leader said.
However, Karunanidhi insisted that what he had said about Ram - that there was no historical proof that he had ever existed or that a bridge called 'Ram Setu' had been constructed by him. "Law Minister HR Bhardwaj had said Ram was as true as the Ganges and the Himalayas. What I say is equally true and valid," the DMK leader said.
"Let Advani go through the Valmiki Ramayan in its entirety and come for a debate on a common platform. Is he ready for such a debate?" Karunanidhi asked.
However, in what appeared to be a concession on the Ram Setu issue, the Chief Minister said the object of the Sethusamudram project was not to destroy the undersea structure but to bring prosperity to the region and aid faster shipping and trade.
Answering a question on whether he would agree to the Sethusamudram project being implemented without causing damage to 'Ram Setu', he said: "Breaking the bridge is not the project's objective. I only want the project to be implemented at the earliest as it will reduce shipping expenses and promote trade. It has been delayed for more than a 100 years."
<b>Karunanidhi's remarks on Ramayan reflect a key tenet of the Dravidian movement in its early days that the Hindu epic reflected an age-old conflict between Aryans and Dravidians. Dravidar Kazhagam, the parent organisation of all Dravidian parties in Tamil Nadu, holds that the Ramayan is the story of an Aryan prince defeating a Dravidian king and that it has been written from the victor's point of view, painting the defeated king as a demon.</b>
<b>DMK founder Karunanidhi's mentor and the party's first Chief Minister, the late CN Annadurai wrote a monograph about 50 years ago attacking medieval Tamil poet Kamban for rendering the story of Ramayan in epic form in Tamil. Quoting erotic and sensual extracts and sexual imagery used by the poet in his classic, Annadurai accused him of bringing in a base form of Aryan literature into Tamil and also of corrupting Dravidian culture by infusing Aryan elements.</b>
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Two points.
1) The Arayan invasion theory is wrong. So Aryan Dravidian divide is worng and false.
2) Was C Annadorai a Christian or educated at Christian colleges? His remarks shw a puritanical bent of mind usually got from Christian indoctrination. Why is he attacking Kamban?
Also what was JLN's views on Rajagopalachari's Ramayana?