10-16-2007, 11:33 PM
Mudy, at minimum it's a case of false advertising - and being going on for over 200 years now. There are churchs even today in India where there are separate communion rails for recent Dalit Christians. Separate Communion cups. Separate burial grounds.
Current Evidence of Caste Discrimination in Chruch
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->That is why <b>75% of the clergy and religious in the Catholic church come from that 20% of the catholic population who are of the upper caste</b>.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->60 kilometers from Madras, has a Catholic population of 2500.   Of these, 1500 are Dalit Catholics. The rest of the catholic population belong to the Reddy and the Naidu upper caste. <b>For the past 200 years, these upper caste Christians have oppressed the Dalit Christians by not giving them their due place in the Church and in the graveyard.</b>
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> In India, there are <b>156 bishops in the Catholic church which has a population of 25 million. Except 6 bishops, the rest of them are coming from the upper caste community. Even these six bishops were appointed very recently by Vatican through the pressure given by 20 million dalit Christians</b> of India who form 75% of the total Catholic population. Yet in the Indian catholic church, both in the hierarchy and in the structure, dalit Christians have no place at all. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->For example, even today, <b>inter-caste marriage is difficult if not impossible in the Indian churches.</b>
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In Goa, for example, there are <b>upper caste Catholic Brahmins who do not marry Christians belonging to the lower castes</b>. In many churches, the <b>low caste Christians have to sit apart from the high caste Christians.</b> In Andhra Pradesh, there are Christian Dalit, Christian Malas, Christian Reddys, Christian Kammas, etc. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Down the decades, discriminations on the basis of caste like <b>separate feasts, separate Thumba, separate cemeteries, and separate places in the church - have been in practice</b>. The Church that should have been the first to break this kind of discriminations has encouraged such violations of human dignity by mere indifference. <b>Even in the rectory the Dalits have to stand and talk (or they have to sit apart) while the others could sit and talk to the priest.</b> The Dalit Christians have to meekly yield to such discriminations because they are numerically few, economically poor and politically powerless.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Current Evidence of Caste Discrimination in Chruch
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->That is why <b>75% of the clergy and religious in the Catholic church come from that 20% of the catholic population who are of the upper caste</b>.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->60 kilometers from Madras, has a Catholic population of 2500.   Of these, 1500 are Dalit Catholics. The rest of the catholic population belong to the Reddy and the Naidu upper caste. <b>For the past 200 years, these upper caste Christians have oppressed the Dalit Christians by not giving them their due place in the Church and in the graveyard.</b>
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from same site
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> In India, there are <b>156 bishops in the Catholic church which has a population of 25 million. Except 6 bishops, the rest of them are coming from the upper caste community. Even these six bishops were appointed very recently by Vatican through the pressure given by 20 million dalit Christians</b> of India who form 75% of the total Catholic population. Yet in the Indian catholic church, both in the hierarchy and in the structure, dalit Christians have no place at all. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->For example, even today, <b>inter-caste marriage is difficult if not impossible in the Indian churches.</b>
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In Goa, for example, there are <b>upper caste Catholic Brahmins who do not marry Christians belonging to the lower castes</b>. In many churches, the <b>low caste Christians have to sit apart from the high caste Christians.</b> In Andhra Pradesh, there are Christian Dalit, Christian Malas, Christian Reddys, Christian Kammas, etc. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Down the decades, discriminations on the basis of caste like <b>separate feasts, separate Thumba, separate cemeteries, and separate places in the church - have been in practice</b>. The Church that should have been the first to break this kind of discriminations has encouraged such violations of human dignity by mere indifference. <b>Even in the rectory the Dalits have to stand and talk (or they have to sit apart) while the others could sit and talk to the priest.</b> The Dalit Christians have to meekly yield to such discriminations because they are numerically few, economically poor and politically powerless.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->