Viren, a couple(?) of days back, came across these headlines in msn.in:
- 'Stop Iran or get set for WW III' (- with Bush Jr's picture next to it)
- Mumbai archbishop made cardinal
The second one is confirmed if you Google
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/18/wcardinals118.xml
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Archbishop of Mumbai, Oswald Gracias, was made a cardinal. Mgr Gracias, 62, has had a rapid rise through the Catholic hierarchy and has worked for long enough in Rome to be an outside bet for the next pope.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Eeewww. Can't think of a catholic priest without my skin crawling. This guy is from Mumbai, but are they so different from those in Kerala???? Especially when the roly-poly padres in other countries are all the same anyway?
Scariest thing is that now some Indian priesty has been made a cardinal, they'll probably get more moolah and henchmen to terrorise further in India. "Onward christian soldiers".
news.webindia123.com/news/Articles/India/20071018/796904.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->India
<b>Vatican appoints Mumbai archbishop as cardinal</b>
Mumbai | October 18, 2007 12:05:06 PM IST
<b>The Archbishop of Mumbai Oswald Gracias, head of the almost 600,000-strong Catholic community in the city</b>, has been appointed a cardinal by the Vatican, <b>the only Asian in the latest list announced in Rome. </b>
Gracias, 62, will be ordained into the prestigious College of Cardinals, which elects the Pope, at a special ceremony in Rome on Nov 24.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
www.assistnews.net/Stories/2007/s07100173.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Friday, October 19, 2007
<b>Church Leaders, Lay People Congratulate Indiaâs New Cardinal</b>
By James Varghese
Special to ASSIST News Service
[...]
Divine Word Father, Babu Joseph, spokesperson of the Catholic Bishops' Conference of India, said the <b>local Church is âextremely gladâ it has one more person who can represent âus in the Vatican,â making the Indian Church's concerns and needs known more clearly.</b>
Father Dominic Emmanuel, Delhi archdiocese spokesperson, noted that <b>for 50 years, all Bombay archbishops have been made cardinals.</b> The Divine Word priest said Cardinal-elect Gracias' work with bishops' forums and his time as archbishop of Agra, the âmother dioceseâ of northern India, have provided him valuable experience.
<b>âHe is familiar with problems and concerns the Church faces in northern India,â which âhe will be able to convey to the Vatican.â</b> Father Emmanuel also said the prelate has been vocal about government policies affecting the poor, and now his voice will be more audible through media.
(Talking about reservations for 'christian dalits'?)
[...]
His elevation comes just 10 years after he was ordained auxiliary bishop of Bombay. âIt is all the work of God. For me it is not a position of honor, but a widening of responsibilities to serve the Church,â he told UCA News soon after the announcement.
He will be the fourth cardinal-archbishop of Bombay, the Indian Church territory with the most Catholics. It is based in <b>Mumbai, formerly Bombay, a Catholic stronghold and India's business capital, 1,410 kilometers southwest of New Delhi.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Do Catholics already consider Mumbai their stronghold? I figured there were more Hindus than Christians in Mumbai. But oh, I forget, a Hindu life is worth 0.00000000001 that of a christian. If worth anything at all.
Last year a different special honour was conferred to another catholic in India:
timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1540042.cms
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Mumbai archbishop to head Vatican body
21 May 2006, 0007 hrs IST,TNN
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MUMBAI: <b>Archbishop of Mumbai, Cardinal Ivan Dias, has been appointed Prefect of the Congregation of the Evangelisation of the Peoples at the Vatican</b>. Cardinal Dias was one of the contenders for the pope's position after John Paul II died last year.
The new appointment has catapulted Cardinal Dias to what is considered one of the top positions in the Vatican with a responsibility extending worldwide.
He will continue as administrator of the archdiocese of Mumbai until he leaves to take over his responsibilities at the Vatican.
Born in Bandra, Cardinal Dias, 70, was ordained a priest in 1958 and has held several senior diplomatic positions for the Vatican over the last 33 years, the first being the secretary of the Apostolic Nunciatures in Scandinavian and Nordic countries, Indonesia and Madagascar.
He also worked as chief of desk in the Vatican for many countries in Eastern Europe, Africa and Asia and was a papal representative in Ghana, Togo, Benin, South Korea and Albania. He was appointed archbishop of Mumbai in 1996 and made a cardinal by Pope John Paul II in 2001.
<b>The Congregation for the Evangelisation of Peoples, founded in 1622, is the Vatican's department entrusted with the coordination of programmes aimed at spreading the gospel in territories where Christianity is still young.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->All this is not harmless.
When Korea was about to be aggressively colonised, the Pope visited it and gave it the second (?) largest number of saints ever. Overnight.
Meanwhile we have someone heading the 'Evangelisation of Peoples' seat.
- 'Stop Iran or get set for WW III' (- with Bush Jr's picture next to it)
- Mumbai archbishop made cardinal
The second one is confirmed if you Google
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/18/wcardinals118.xml
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Archbishop of Mumbai, Oswald Gracias, was made a cardinal. Mgr Gracias, 62, has had a rapid rise through the Catholic hierarchy and has worked for long enough in Rome to be an outside bet for the next pope.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Eeewww. Can't think of a catholic priest without my skin crawling. This guy is from Mumbai, but are they so different from those in Kerala???? Especially when the roly-poly padres in other countries are all the same anyway?
Scariest thing is that now some Indian priesty has been made a cardinal, they'll probably get more moolah and henchmen to terrorise further in India. "Onward christian soldiers".
news.webindia123.com/news/Articles/India/20071018/796904.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->India
<b>Vatican appoints Mumbai archbishop as cardinal</b>
Mumbai | October 18, 2007 12:05:06 PM IST
<b>The Archbishop of Mumbai Oswald Gracias, head of the almost 600,000-strong Catholic community in the city</b>, has been appointed a cardinal by the Vatican, <b>the only Asian in the latest list announced in Rome. </b>
Gracias, 62, will be ordained into the prestigious College of Cardinals, which elects the Pope, at a special ceremony in Rome on Nov 24.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
www.assistnews.net/Stories/2007/s07100173.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Friday, October 19, 2007
<b>Church Leaders, Lay People Congratulate Indiaâs New Cardinal</b>
By James Varghese
Special to ASSIST News Service
[...]
Divine Word Father, Babu Joseph, spokesperson of the Catholic Bishops' Conference of India, said the <b>local Church is âextremely gladâ it has one more person who can represent âus in the Vatican,â making the Indian Church's concerns and needs known more clearly.</b>
Father Dominic Emmanuel, Delhi archdiocese spokesperson, noted that <b>for 50 years, all Bombay archbishops have been made cardinals.</b> The Divine Word priest said Cardinal-elect Gracias' work with bishops' forums and his time as archbishop of Agra, the âmother dioceseâ of northern India, have provided him valuable experience.
<b>âHe is familiar with problems and concerns the Church faces in northern India,â which âhe will be able to convey to the Vatican.â</b> Father Emmanuel also said the prelate has been vocal about government policies affecting the poor, and now his voice will be more audible through media.
(Talking about reservations for 'christian dalits'?)
[...]
His elevation comes just 10 years after he was ordained auxiliary bishop of Bombay. âIt is all the work of God. For me it is not a position of honor, but a widening of responsibilities to serve the Church,â he told UCA News soon after the announcement.
He will be the fourth cardinal-archbishop of Bombay, the Indian Church territory with the most Catholics. It is based in <b>Mumbai, formerly Bombay, a Catholic stronghold and India's business capital, 1,410 kilometers southwest of New Delhi.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Do Catholics already consider Mumbai their stronghold? I figured there were more Hindus than Christians in Mumbai. But oh, I forget, a Hindu life is worth 0.00000000001 that of a christian. If worth anything at all.
Last year a different special honour was conferred to another catholic in India:
timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1540042.cms
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Mumbai archbishop to head Vatican body
21 May 2006, 0007 hrs IST,TNN
Print Save EMail Write to Editor
MUMBAI: <b>Archbishop of Mumbai, Cardinal Ivan Dias, has been appointed Prefect of the Congregation of the Evangelisation of the Peoples at the Vatican</b>. Cardinal Dias was one of the contenders for the pope's position after John Paul II died last year.
The new appointment has catapulted Cardinal Dias to what is considered one of the top positions in the Vatican with a responsibility extending worldwide.
He will continue as administrator of the archdiocese of Mumbai until he leaves to take over his responsibilities at the Vatican.
Born in Bandra, Cardinal Dias, 70, was ordained a priest in 1958 and has held several senior diplomatic positions for the Vatican over the last 33 years, the first being the secretary of the Apostolic Nunciatures in Scandinavian and Nordic countries, Indonesia and Madagascar.
He also worked as chief of desk in the Vatican for many countries in Eastern Europe, Africa and Asia and was a papal representative in Ghana, Togo, Benin, South Korea and Albania. He was appointed archbishop of Mumbai in 1996 and made a cardinal by Pope John Paul II in 2001.
<b>The Congregation for the Evangelisation of Peoples, founded in 1622, is the Vatican's department entrusted with the coordination of programmes aimed at spreading the gospel in territories where Christianity is still young.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->All this is not harmless.
When Korea was about to be aggressively colonised, the Pope visited it and gave it the second (?) largest number of saints ever. Overnight.
Meanwhile we have someone heading the 'Evangelisation of Peoples' seat.