11-01-2007, 10:02 AM
Submarine Technology
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->What is a proven fact is in the submarine industry the Germans were using concentrated hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) for fuel. The US did briefly and the UK did for a little bit. But everyone washed their hands of using H2O2 because of the deaths & injuries from accidents with the H2O2. Except for Germany. Very few accidents. And their program was very successful<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->the XVII or XVIII were the initial test vehicles. Except one problem that they trade speed for range. If they want range, they can have it, but they won't be fast. But they can out do Allied subs when it comes to spped. Except the lose range considerably.
a XXIII was set up with a fuel oil tubine/H2O2 generator combo. Only a little bit about 25 years ago. But I recall hearing that the design should have been good enough to make a sub last a very long time at sea.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://www.uboat.net/types/xviia.htm
Technical information for Wa 201 (Type XVIIA)
Oil Supply (tons): 18 max + 34 (H2O2)
Technical information for Wk 202
Oil Supply (tons): 14 max + 40 (H2O2)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Some insight might be gleaned from the fact that between October 1942 and September 1944 16 German U-boats were sunk in the South Atlantic area. And... some of these submarines did appear to be engaged in covert activities. <b>A fine example of this would be that of U-859 (TYPE IXD) which, on 4 April 1944 at 04.40hrs, left on a mission carrying 67 men and 33 tons of mercury sealed in glass bottles in watertight tin crates</b>. The submarine was later sunk on 23 September by a British submarine (HMS Trenchant) in the Straits of Malacca and although 47 of the crew died, 20 survived. Some 30 years later one of these survivors spoke openly about the cargo and diverslater confirmed the story on rediscovering the mercury. The significance being that <b>mercury might have been usable as a fuel source for certain types of aerospace propulsion</b>. Why would a German submarine be transporting such a cargo so far from home?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
"Verblieb zur Zeit noch nicht geklaert" = Remains to this time still not clarified."
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As the text says both of this people were official members of the first German expedition to Neuschwabenland. This is the list, and the names are underlined:
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->What is a proven fact is in the submarine industry the Germans were using concentrated hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) for fuel. The US did briefly and the UK did for a little bit. But everyone washed their hands of using H2O2 because of the deaths & injuries from accidents with the H2O2. Except for Germany. Very few accidents. And their program was very successful<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->the XVII or XVIII were the initial test vehicles. Except one problem that they trade speed for range. If they want range, they can have it, but they won't be fast. But they can out do Allied subs when it comes to spped. Except the lose range considerably.
a XXIII was set up with a fuel oil tubine/H2O2 generator combo. Only a little bit about 25 years ago. But I recall hearing that the design should have been good enough to make a sub last a very long time at sea.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://www.uboat.net/types/xviia.htm
Technical information for Wa 201 (Type XVIIA)
Oil Supply (tons): 18 max + 34 (H2O2)
Technical information for Wk 202
Oil Supply (tons): 14 max + 40 (H2O2)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Some insight might be gleaned from the fact that between October 1942 and September 1944 16 German U-boats were sunk in the South Atlantic area. And... some of these submarines did appear to be engaged in covert activities. <b>A fine example of this would be that of U-859 (TYPE IXD) which, on 4 April 1944 at 04.40hrs, left on a mission carrying 67 men and 33 tons of mercury sealed in glass bottles in watertight tin crates</b>. The submarine was later sunk on 23 September by a British submarine (HMS Trenchant) in the Straits of Malacca and although 47 of the crew died, 20 survived. Some 30 years later one of these survivors spoke openly about the cargo and diverslater confirmed the story on rediscovering the mercury. The significance being that <b>mercury might have been usable as a fuel source for certain types of aerospace propulsion</b>. Why would a German submarine be transporting such a cargo so far from home?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
"Verblieb zur Zeit noch nicht geklaert" = Remains to this time still not clarified."
<img src='http://img478.imageshack.us/img478/6683/bootyg9.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
<img src='http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/9349/bootdv9.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />
As the text says both of this people were official members of the first German expedition to Neuschwabenland. This is the list, and the names are underlined:
<img src='http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/3568/bootdm6.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' />