11-24-2007, 09:48 PM
Dr Kalyanraman wrote:
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A stark choice faced by CPM: communism or islamism?
It is clear that both cannot coexist for long.
A remarkable short, powerful piece by Priyadarsi Dutta is a brilliant presentation of the sweep of over 70 years of bharatiya communist history.
Communists of today in Bharatam have proved themselves bereft of any ideology, particularly after their adoration for the nonagenarian Jyoti Basu (who continues to rule W. Bengal) who stayed in power ruling 1/3 of Bangla pampering the muslim vote-banks and weeping about CPM's historic blunder which prevented his becoming PM.
The dharma-chakra has turned full circle and Buddha and his coterie are caught in the administration of dumdum dawai stupidly recommended by Brinda K (and politburo). Just as commies in Bangladesh and Paki have become islamists, it is the next logical step for the commies of West Bengal to convert to islamism. And, migrate to Bangladesh as mujahir after conversion to islamism which is the logical next step, defying Ambedkar's world-view.
It will, of course, be logical for Bharatam to demand space in Bangladesh to resettle hindu's expelled from there after the sonar bangla cry became a tinsel shriek.
If Karats and Buddha (including Yechury and Biman Bose) want to convert from communism to christism or islamism or bauddham, they will do well to read some thoughts of great revolutionaries beyond MN Roy â Ambedkar, for example, or better stil, Chaitanya prabhu.
Of course, the option exists, to continue to perform durga puja and stay hindu, practicing and living by hindu sanatana dharma. But then, a start has to be made to understand the true import of dharma as abhyudayam and nihs'reyas as twin purushartha (and not pampering the twins called ) Idris Ali and Sultan Ahmed (close to Alimuddin Street), who, like communism, are mere footnotes in the history of hindu civilization. Try calling them Ali da and Sultan da⦠Even Buddha will figure out how impossible it is, in his next poem or drama as Taslima basks under the security cover of 10 Janpath thinking of the title of her next bangla novel. (What an irony: Salman Rushdie gets better protection from fatwa-s in a kafir land called England.)
I don't think Alimuddin Street movement has the trappings of the Khilafat movement.
Yes, indeed, we have a long way to go to come to grips with the muslim problem in bharatam. We have just started understanding the true nature of islamism and the imperative of reminding every muslim in bharatam that his or her pitr-s of generations, say, 800 years Before Present, were hindu, revering Kali-maa in Kolkata and also Dacca.
Historical Role of Islam: An Essay on Islamic Culture By: M. N. Roy can be read at http://www.indianmuslims.info/documents/hi...am_m_n_roy.html
Contrast this with the world-view of Ambedkar.
<b>Ambedkar noted: "Indian Christians like all other Indians are divided by race, by language, and by caste. Their religion has not been a sufficiently strong unifying force as to make difference of language, race and caste as though they were mere distinctionsâ¦Everybody infers that Islam must be free from slavery and caste. (While slavery existed), much of its support was derived from Islam and Islamic countries.
While the prescriptions by the Prophet regarding the just and humane treatment of slaves contained in the Koran are praiseworthy, there is nothing whatever in Islam that lends support to the abolition of this curse. But if slavery has gone, caste among Muslims has remainedâ¦If the depressed classes join Islam or Christianity, they not only go out of the Hindu religion, but they also go out of the Hindu culture. What the consequences of conversion will do to the country as a whole is well worth bearing in mindâ¦
The application of the Hindu Code to Sikhs, Buddhists and Jains was a historical development and it would be too late, sociologically, to object to it. When the Buddha differed from the Vedic Brahmins, he did so only in matters of creed, but left the Hindu legal framework intact. He did not propound a separate law for his followers. The same was the case with Mahavir and the ten Sikh gurus."</b>
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Following his dramatic announcement in 1935 C.E. that he would adopt a new religion, Ambedkar considered Christianity, Islam, Sikhism, Jainism and Buddhism as possible options for him in India. They were all active religions, except for Buddhism, which, although originating in India had vanished by the twelfth century. Ambedkar asked, "Which of these traditions offers my community the most dignity, the most inspiration, the most empowerment to move ahead and to realize a good life or a good future or a good symbolic universe, a universe that makes me feel that life is worth living and there's a future for the world?" Buddhism seemed to offer the most for Ambedkar and his followers because it was an indigenous religion; it wasn't, like Christianity or Islam - something imported.
http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?...96,0,0,1,0
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Priyadarsi Dutta
It took organised Muslim violence in Kolkata for the Left Front Government in West Bengal to requisition the Army. Panic gripped the capital of the 'liberal secularist' State Government at noon. Two CPI(M) local offices at Beniapukur were set ablaze. The mob raised slogans to demolish Muzaffar Ahmed Bhawan, the CPI(M) and SFI's headquarters on Alimuddin Street. Since the building is deep inside a Muslim locality, the comrades panicked and shut its gates, doors and windows.
The mob pelted stones at Kolkata Police. It avoided entering the notorious lanes and bylanes, fearing getting trapped, surrounded by Islamist swordsmen, already out on the streets. Finally, it was not the usual tear gas canisters of Kolkata Police but automatic rifles held by the soldiers of the Gorkha Regiment that finally struck fear in the rioters' hearts.
No deaths have been reported; except perhaps that of the Marxist-Muslim relationship. This has been an ironical relationship from the day when MN Roy raised the nucleus of India's Communist Party at Tashkent, with the mohajirs of the Khilafat Movement in 1920. The mohajirs showed more interest in military training than their Indusky Kurs (Indian school) -- the school for political training. Roy's book, Historical Role of Islam (1937), set the trend for Marxist historiography of condoning Islamic intolerance while blaming Hindus. The trend surprisingly did not change even after Communists were cleansed from Pakistan.
The violence in Kolkata has also exposed the Achilles' Heel of West Bengal's 'liberal secularism'. A panic-stricken CPI(M) bundling exiled Bangladeshi writer Taslima Nasreen out of Kolkata means holding a cosmopolitan city hostage to the intolerant few, even after two-thirds of Bengal was lost to that intolerance in 1947. If the CPI(M) plays the Hindu card now, which is unlikely, it would mean Chief Minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee going former Yugoslavian President Slobodan Milosevic's way to face the reality.
Trinamool Congress chief Mamata Banerjee and her supporters feel that Muslim assertiveness is necessary for throwing the Communists out. That's why she has extended her "moral support" to the Muslim marauders in Kolkata. But if the CPI(M) plays the Hindu card, Ms Banerjee's grand designs will be defeated.
http://tinyurl.com/4eznl
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Riot twins face music, but unfazed - Suspended, Idris Ali says he is proud of 'movement'
Kolkata, The Telegraph, Issue Date: Saturday, November 24, 2007
(Photos) Idris Ali and Sultan Ahmed: Unrepentant
Calcutta, Nov. 23: The Congress today suspended Idris Ali for his role in Wednesday's street riots even as Mamata Banerjee came under increasing pressure to act against Sultan Ahmed, who had admitted his boys' role in the violence.
State Congress working president Pradip Bhattacharya said Ali was suspended for an indefinite period. A notice, asking why he should not be expelled from the party, has been served on him.
However, the president of the Congress-backed All India Minority Forum was brazen in his defiance. "I feel proud to have been associated with the movement," Ali said.
"My suspension would cost the party dear during next year's panchayat elections," he added.
The forum led by Ali had called the morning peak-hour roadblock that turned violent on Wednesday. The army had to be called on the city's streets after 15 years as violent mobs laid siege to a part of the city.
The decision to suspend Ali followed a meeting of key Congress office bearers, including former state unit chief Somen Mitra, who is said to be his mentor.
Suspended, Ali, a former chairman of the party's minority cell, accused the state Congress of being "isolated from the minorities, particularly a vast section of the Muslim community".
"The leaders failed to understand the spontaneous protest from the minorities, particularly a vast section of the Muslim community in the state, against Taslima Nasreen's stay in Calcutta."
State Congress general secretary Jayanta Bhattacharya described Ali's remarks today as "gross violation of the party's discipline".
The leadership is left with no option but to expel Ali, he said.
Trinamul Congress sources said Mamata "snubbed" Sultan Ahmed today when he called her at the party headquarters to say he had no control on his "boys".
On the day of the violence, he said: "Why should I stop my boys? What happened today should serve as an eye-opener for the government."
A Trinamul leader said: "Didi did not buy Sultan's arguments."
A large section of the party's working committee has told Mamata that the general secretary post should at least be taken away from him.
The most vocal among them was Trinamul's minority cell president M. Nur Uzzuman. "The party's image has definitely taken a severe beating because of Sultan's involvement in the riots. He has to be removed," Nur said.
Like Ali, Ahmed remained unfazed.
"I was not born a Trinamul general secretary. So, I don't mind being removed from the post for sharing the concerns of a vast section of my community," he said.
http://telegraphindia.com/1071124/asp/beng...ory_8586841.asp
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A stark choice faced by CPM: communism or islamism?
It is clear that both cannot coexist for long.
A remarkable short, powerful piece by Priyadarsi Dutta is a brilliant presentation of the sweep of over 70 years of bharatiya communist history.
Communists of today in Bharatam have proved themselves bereft of any ideology, particularly after their adoration for the nonagenarian Jyoti Basu (who continues to rule W. Bengal) who stayed in power ruling 1/3 of Bangla pampering the muslim vote-banks and weeping about CPM's historic blunder which prevented his becoming PM.
The dharma-chakra has turned full circle and Buddha and his coterie are caught in the administration of dumdum dawai stupidly recommended by Brinda K (and politburo). Just as commies in Bangladesh and Paki have become islamists, it is the next logical step for the commies of West Bengal to convert to islamism. And, migrate to Bangladesh as mujahir after conversion to islamism which is the logical next step, defying Ambedkar's world-view.
It will, of course, be logical for Bharatam to demand space in Bangladesh to resettle hindu's expelled from there after the sonar bangla cry became a tinsel shriek.
If Karats and Buddha (including Yechury and Biman Bose) want to convert from communism to christism or islamism or bauddham, they will do well to read some thoughts of great revolutionaries beyond MN Roy â Ambedkar, for example, or better stil, Chaitanya prabhu.
Of course, the option exists, to continue to perform durga puja and stay hindu, practicing and living by hindu sanatana dharma. But then, a start has to be made to understand the true import of dharma as abhyudayam and nihs'reyas as twin purushartha (and not pampering the twins called ) Idris Ali and Sultan Ahmed (close to Alimuddin Street), who, like communism, are mere footnotes in the history of hindu civilization. Try calling them Ali da and Sultan da⦠Even Buddha will figure out how impossible it is, in his next poem or drama as Taslima basks under the security cover of 10 Janpath thinking of the title of her next bangla novel. (What an irony: Salman Rushdie gets better protection from fatwa-s in a kafir land called England.)
I don't think Alimuddin Street movement has the trappings of the Khilafat movement.
Yes, indeed, we have a long way to go to come to grips with the muslim problem in bharatam. We have just started understanding the true nature of islamism and the imperative of reminding every muslim in bharatam that his or her pitr-s of generations, say, 800 years Before Present, were hindu, revering Kali-maa in Kolkata and also Dacca.
Historical Role of Islam: An Essay on Islamic Culture By: M. N. Roy can be read at http://www.indianmuslims.info/documents/hi...am_m_n_roy.html
Contrast this with the world-view of Ambedkar.
<b>Ambedkar noted: "Indian Christians like all other Indians are divided by race, by language, and by caste. Their religion has not been a sufficiently strong unifying force as to make difference of language, race and caste as though they were mere distinctionsâ¦Everybody infers that Islam must be free from slavery and caste. (While slavery existed), much of its support was derived from Islam and Islamic countries.
While the prescriptions by the Prophet regarding the just and humane treatment of slaves contained in the Koran are praiseworthy, there is nothing whatever in Islam that lends support to the abolition of this curse. But if slavery has gone, caste among Muslims has remainedâ¦If the depressed classes join Islam or Christianity, they not only go out of the Hindu religion, but they also go out of the Hindu culture. What the consequences of conversion will do to the country as a whole is well worth bearing in mindâ¦
The application of the Hindu Code to Sikhs, Buddhists and Jains was a historical development and it would be too late, sociologically, to object to it. When the Buddha differed from the Vedic Brahmins, he did so only in matters of creed, but left the Hindu legal framework intact. He did not propound a separate law for his followers. The same was the case with Mahavir and the ten Sikh gurus."</b>
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Following his dramatic announcement in 1935 C.E. that he would adopt a new religion, Ambedkar considered Christianity, Islam, Sikhism, Jainism and Buddhism as possible options for him in India. They were all active religions, except for Buddhism, which, although originating in India had vanished by the twelfth century. Ambedkar asked, "Which of these traditions offers my community the most dignity, the most inspiration, the most empowerment to move ahead and to realize a good life or a good future or a good symbolic universe, a universe that makes me feel that life is worth living and there's a future for the world?" Buddhism seemed to offer the most for Ambedkar and his followers because it was an indigenous religion; it wasn't, like Christianity or Islam - something imported.
http://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?...96,0,0,1,0
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Priyadarsi Dutta
It took organised Muslim violence in Kolkata for the Left Front Government in West Bengal to requisition the Army. Panic gripped the capital of the 'liberal secularist' State Government at noon. Two CPI(M) local offices at Beniapukur were set ablaze. The mob raised slogans to demolish Muzaffar Ahmed Bhawan, the CPI(M) and SFI's headquarters on Alimuddin Street. Since the building is deep inside a Muslim locality, the comrades panicked and shut its gates, doors and windows.
The mob pelted stones at Kolkata Police. It avoided entering the notorious lanes and bylanes, fearing getting trapped, surrounded by Islamist swordsmen, already out on the streets. Finally, it was not the usual tear gas canisters of Kolkata Police but automatic rifles held by the soldiers of the Gorkha Regiment that finally struck fear in the rioters' hearts.
No deaths have been reported; except perhaps that of the Marxist-Muslim relationship. This has been an ironical relationship from the day when MN Roy raised the nucleus of India's Communist Party at Tashkent, with the mohajirs of the Khilafat Movement in 1920. The mohajirs showed more interest in military training than their Indusky Kurs (Indian school) -- the school for political training. Roy's book, Historical Role of Islam (1937), set the trend for Marxist historiography of condoning Islamic intolerance while blaming Hindus. The trend surprisingly did not change even after Communists were cleansed from Pakistan.
The violence in Kolkata has also exposed the Achilles' Heel of West Bengal's 'liberal secularism'. A panic-stricken CPI(M) bundling exiled Bangladeshi writer Taslima Nasreen out of Kolkata means holding a cosmopolitan city hostage to the intolerant few, even after two-thirds of Bengal was lost to that intolerance in 1947. If the CPI(M) plays the Hindu card now, which is unlikely, it would mean Chief Minister Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee going former Yugoslavian President Slobodan Milosevic's way to face the reality.
Trinamool Congress chief Mamata Banerjee and her supporters feel that Muslim assertiveness is necessary for throwing the Communists out. That's why she has extended her "moral support" to the Muslim marauders in Kolkata. But if the CPI(M) plays the Hindu card, Ms Banerjee's grand designs will be defeated.
http://tinyurl.com/4eznl
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Riot twins face music, but unfazed - Suspended, Idris Ali says he is proud of 'movement'
Kolkata, The Telegraph, Issue Date: Saturday, November 24, 2007
(Photos) Idris Ali and Sultan Ahmed: Unrepentant
Calcutta, Nov. 23: The Congress today suspended Idris Ali for his role in Wednesday's street riots even as Mamata Banerjee came under increasing pressure to act against Sultan Ahmed, who had admitted his boys' role in the violence.
State Congress working president Pradip Bhattacharya said Ali was suspended for an indefinite period. A notice, asking why he should not be expelled from the party, has been served on him.
However, the president of the Congress-backed All India Minority Forum was brazen in his defiance. "I feel proud to have been associated with the movement," Ali said.
"My suspension would cost the party dear during next year's panchayat elections," he added.
The forum led by Ali had called the morning peak-hour roadblock that turned violent on Wednesday. The army had to be called on the city's streets after 15 years as violent mobs laid siege to a part of the city.
The decision to suspend Ali followed a meeting of key Congress office bearers, including former state unit chief Somen Mitra, who is said to be his mentor.
Suspended, Ali, a former chairman of the party's minority cell, accused the state Congress of being "isolated from the minorities, particularly a vast section of the Muslim community".
"The leaders failed to understand the spontaneous protest from the minorities, particularly a vast section of the Muslim community in the state, against Taslima Nasreen's stay in Calcutta."
State Congress general secretary Jayanta Bhattacharya described Ali's remarks today as "gross violation of the party's discipline".
The leadership is left with no option but to expel Ali, he said.
Trinamul Congress sources said Mamata "snubbed" Sultan Ahmed today when he called her at the party headquarters to say he had no control on his "boys".
On the day of the violence, he said: "Why should I stop my boys? What happened today should serve as an eye-opener for the government."
A Trinamul leader said: "Didi did not buy Sultan's arguments."
A large section of the party's working committee has told Mamata that the general secretary post should at least be taken away from him.
The most vocal among them was Trinamul's minority cell president M. Nur Uzzuman. "The party's image has definitely taken a severe beating because of Sultan's involvement in the riots. He has to be removed," Nur said.
Like Ali, Ahmed remained unfazed.
"I was not born a Trinamul general secretary. So, I don't mind being removed from the post for sharing the concerns of a vast section of my community," he said.
http://telegraphindia.com/1071124/asp/beng...ory_8586841.asp
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