12-15-2007, 04:58 AM
Re ISKON:
1. I too don't like their "demigod" business. I go to ISKON gatherings weekly, but I am a Shaiva, always will be. I like Veera rasa more than bhakti rasa or shringaar rasa. I like Krisna too, but as non-different from Shiva. The difference is only at our end (the devotee's).
2. As I said before, I hate their jehovallah business. Prabhupada gives lectures on how authorized he is, and calls others "mayawadi" etc, but then goes on to praise jesus and allah. Where the $%^& did he get the "authorization" for *that*? Our scriptures--Praphupada, as all know, loves to back up all that he says with scripture--do not mention any jesus or allah.
3. Krishna said "I work to set an example, even though I do not need to work" (to paraphrase). Likewise, ISKON needs to set an example, and avoid treating Jesus and Allah as paths to God, because no matter what ISKON's interpretation of these latter day "religions" may be, they have to *see* the baggage they come with. (ie missionarism, wanton violence, cultural destruction, division, secession etc). You cannot be encouraging Jesus-worship and Allah-worship knowing fully well what these things lead to.
4. I think Prabhupada read the Abrahamic mind correctly: give them one thing to worship, and one only. He talks sweet about jesus and allah to attract concerts. Remember, this was a movement for the West primarily. Different strokes for different folks. Jehovallah is OK for the ridiculously un-spiritual West, at least it gets them somewhat on track...but will not work for the Indic.
1. I too don't like their "demigod" business. I go to ISKON gatherings weekly, but I am a Shaiva, always will be. I like Veera rasa more than bhakti rasa or shringaar rasa. I like Krisna too, but as non-different from Shiva. The difference is only at our end (the devotee's).
2. As I said before, I hate their jehovallah business. Prabhupada gives lectures on how authorized he is, and calls others "mayawadi" etc, but then goes on to praise jesus and allah. Where the $%^& did he get the "authorization" for *that*? Our scriptures--Praphupada, as all know, loves to back up all that he says with scripture--do not mention any jesus or allah.
3. Krishna said "I work to set an example, even though I do not need to work" (to paraphrase). Likewise, ISKON needs to set an example, and avoid treating Jesus and Allah as paths to God, because no matter what ISKON's interpretation of these latter day "religions" may be, they have to *see* the baggage they come with. (ie missionarism, wanton violence, cultural destruction, division, secession etc). You cannot be encouraging Jesus-worship and Allah-worship knowing fully well what these things lead to.
4. I think Prabhupada read the Abrahamic mind correctly: give them one thing to worship, and one only. He talks sweet about jesus and allah to attract concerts. Remember, this was a movement for the West primarily. Different strokes for different folks. Jehovallah is OK for the ridiculously un-spiritual West, at least it gets them somewhat on track...but will not work for the Indic.