01-26-2008, 06:33 AM
(This post was last modified: 01-26-2008, 06:42 AM by Bharatvarsh.)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->If one considers "Nazism" to be an valid object of hatred, is the RSS then to be considered a valid object of hatred?
"Tolerance is obviously not uniquely Hindu (plenty of pagan cultures had this, something quite alien to Christianity, Islam, Nazism or Communism)". This is something I agree with. Zorastrianism as mediated through Judaism, Islam and Christianity and the to their secular sequelae. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
RSS being an valid or invalid onject of hatred will have to be decided after weighing it's ideology in the light of evidence we have, if it can be shown that it is similar to Nazism then it is valid.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->So, Bharatvarsh, can one reconcile exclusive worship of one religion with tolerance of other religions?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes one can, as long as one doesn't go about massacring "unbelievers".
There are many Vaishnavas who will not worship any other deity as the supreme other than Vishnu, but that's ok as long as they don't impose their belief on others.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Is the religious search to be to discover the divine within oneself or to seek to suppress all competing organized religions?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Firstly not all "religions" if one can call them that believe in the "divine" (i am assuming you mean "God" here)
The answer to your question can only be given by the "religions" under question, according to Islam and Christianity one of their goals is to supress all other religions whether organized or unorganized.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Is anyone here familiar enough with the history and goals of the RSS to be able to distinguish it from the Hitler Youth?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Maybe you can enlighten us.
Do you think we will get scared if you just brandish "Hitler" out of nowhere and make nonsensical comparisons?
If RSS was really as capable as Nazis as you childishly assert there would be no democracy in India today.
How long did it take the Nazis to get to power?
RSS has been there for nearly 80 years, if they are like the dreaded Hitler youth you wouldn't be writing this nonsense today, instead you would be in some slave camp or shot dead for going against RSS.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Is it really believed that fewer than 15% of the population represent an existential threat to 85% of the population?
If not, what is the real purpose of hate propaganda?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Didn't your kind ask the same question before 1947?
They said "Is it really believed that fewer than 25% of the population represent an existential threat to 73% of the population?"
But didn't the same "minority" then demand 30% of the land and get it?
Or are you blind to history?
Also by this logic since card carrying Nazis or KKK or Communists did not even represent 10% of the world population so they were no danger to the rest of the world, do you agree with that?
What "hate propaganda" do you have in mind?
You mean stating the truth about Islam and Christianity is "hate propaganda"?
I will not reply in this thread again, mods can shift the posts to the thread deemed appropriate.
"Tolerance is obviously not uniquely Hindu (plenty of pagan cultures had this, something quite alien to Christianity, Islam, Nazism or Communism)". This is something I agree with. Zorastrianism as mediated through Judaism, Islam and Christianity and the to their secular sequelae. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
RSS being an valid or invalid onject of hatred will have to be decided after weighing it's ideology in the light of evidence we have, if it can be shown that it is similar to Nazism then it is valid.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->So, Bharatvarsh, can one reconcile exclusive worship of one religion with tolerance of other religions?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes one can, as long as one doesn't go about massacring "unbelievers".
There are many Vaishnavas who will not worship any other deity as the supreme other than Vishnu, but that's ok as long as they don't impose their belief on others.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Is the religious search to be to discover the divine within oneself or to seek to suppress all competing organized religions?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Firstly not all "religions" if one can call them that believe in the "divine" (i am assuming you mean "God" here)
The answer to your question can only be given by the "religions" under question, according to Islam and Christianity one of their goals is to supress all other religions whether organized or unorganized.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Is anyone here familiar enough with the history and goals of the RSS to be able to distinguish it from the Hitler Youth?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Maybe you can enlighten us.
Do you think we will get scared if you just brandish "Hitler" out of nowhere and make nonsensical comparisons?
If RSS was really as capable as Nazis as you childishly assert there would be no democracy in India today.
How long did it take the Nazis to get to power?
RSS has been there for nearly 80 years, if they are like the dreaded Hitler youth you wouldn't be writing this nonsense today, instead you would be in some slave camp or shot dead for going against RSS.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Is it really believed that fewer than 15% of the population represent an existential threat to 85% of the population?
If not, what is the real purpose of hate propaganda?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Didn't your kind ask the same question before 1947?
They said "Is it really believed that fewer than 25% of the population represent an existential threat to 73% of the population?"
But didn't the same "minority" then demand 30% of the land and get it?
Or are you blind to history?
Also by this logic since card carrying Nazis or KKK or Communists did not even represent 10% of the world population so they were no danger to the rest of the world, do you agree with that?
What "hate propaganda" do you have in mind?
You mean stating the truth about Islam and Christianity is "hate propaganda"?
I will not reply in this thread again, mods can shift the posts to the thread deemed appropriate.