07-23-2004, 01:49 PM
@ krishna
Your questions are valid and I shall answer them to the best of my ability.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I have a specific question for you. When you say we should dump Israel becuase they did this/that to the palestenian people......what I wanna know is WHY?
Why should WE care more for the palestinians than the Israelis? for what? what's in it for us?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Appart from moral reasons there are other factors tied in with geopolitics and economic concerns. By supporting Palestine we can boost our relations with the Arab world. This means we could get cheaper oil, and India as a developing nation REQUIRES cheap industrial inputs. Furthuremore, there is a sort of polarisation going on in this conflict. Europe and China support Palestine whereas the US primarily supports Israel. Instead of isolating ourselves with the US, we may as well sign up with Europe and China. I have a feeling in the long run it will pay of. As American hegomony over world oil supply increases (they already have Iraq and Afganistan), Chinese and European industries will be severely threatened. I believe that there is a possibility of armed conflict here. If India signs on with the US and Israel, in the next 40 years, our relations with China and Europe will worsen to a terrible extent.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I do not know the exact history of Israel, like who conquered what, when, where, how n' that sorta stuff in the last 50/60 years..........but the way I know it, if you go back to the 6th century.......there were no palestenians as they exist today. U get the drift??<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Arabs have been living in Palestine since the 6th century when the Muslim Calliph Omar siezed the territory in a bloodless battle from the Christians. Jewish scripture states that the Jews are God's chosen people and have rights over the land of Palestine. In 1948 groups of well armed Jewish millitants drove out 800,000 Palestinians from their land and annexed half of the land that was to become an Arab state (the UN had partitioned the land 50/50 for Arabs and Jews. The Jews took 50% of the land that was alloted to the Arabs in 1948, (see Noam Chomsky "Fatefull Triangle" and Dr.Norman Finklestein "Image and reality")
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->why should the majority Hindus follow what Indian muslims think is right for the whole nation ?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This isn't about Islam and this isn't about Muslims, lets get that straight. Even if I was a non Muslim, I'd still support Palestine becasue I support Justice and I am against ethnic cleansing. In the words of Dr.Finklestein (who is Jewish btw): "Most people think I am a supporter of Palestine, I am not. I am merely a supporter of Justice. "
Well, I hope that helps Krishna. If you need to know anything else, just ask <!--emo&
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Your questions are valid and I shall answer them to the best of my ability.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I have a specific question for you. When you say we should dump Israel becuase they did this/that to the palestenian people......what I wanna know is WHY?
Why should WE care more for the palestinians than the Israelis? for what? what's in it for us?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Appart from moral reasons there are other factors tied in with geopolitics and economic concerns. By supporting Palestine we can boost our relations with the Arab world. This means we could get cheaper oil, and India as a developing nation REQUIRES cheap industrial inputs. Furthuremore, there is a sort of polarisation going on in this conflict. Europe and China support Palestine whereas the US primarily supports Israel. Instead of isolating ourselves with the US, we may as well sign up with Europe and China. I have a feeling in the long run it will pay of. As American hegomony over world oil supply increases (they already have Iraq and Afganistan), Chinese and European industries will be severely threatened. I believe that there is a possibility of armed conflict here. If India signs on with the US and Israel, in the next 40 years, our relations with China and Europe will worsen to a terrible extent.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I do not know the exact history of Israel, like who conquered what, when, where, how n' that sorta stuff in the last 50/60 years..........but the way I know it, if you go back to the 6th century.......there were no palestenians as they exist today. U get the drift??<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Arabs have been living in Palestine since the 6th century when the Muslim Calliph Omar siezed the territory in a bloodless battle from the Christians. Jewish scripture states that the Jews are God's chosen people and have rights over the land of Palestine. In 1948 groups of well armed Jewish millitants drove out 800,000 Palestinians from their land and annexed half of the land that was to become an Arab state (the UN had partitioned the land 50/50 for Arabs and Jews. The Jews took 50% of the land that was alloted to the Arabs in 1948, (see Noam Chomsky "Fatefull Triangle" and Dr.Norman Finklestein "Image and reality")
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->why should the majority Hindus follow what Indian muslims think is right for the whole nation ?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This isn't about Islam and this isn't about Muslims, lets get that straight. Even if I was a non Muslim, I'd still support Palestine becasue I support Justice and I am against ethnic cleansing. In the words of Dr.Finklestein (who is Jewish btw): "Most people think I am a supporter of Palestine, I am not. I am merely a supporter of Justice. "
Well, I hope that helps Krishna. If you need to know anything else, just ask <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->PS, thanks for the welcome <!--emo&
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