Continued from post 113, just above.
The thing is, the concept - what the west terms "spiritual pollution" - was there in India in earlier times. And such situations existed in different forms, whether for similar or different reasons, in other countries like Japan, Congo, Rwanda (see that article on Rwanda linked in post 113).
What's there today in India is quite different and oftentimes quite separate from the Indian past, because today's situation is much the result of unnatural conditions: tyrannical christoislami colonialism actually has much to answer for today's state. One could compare the small number of "castes" and the situation in India noted by the Chinese with the continuously increasing numbers of castes during islamic tyranny, up to the vast numbers under christobritish rule due to the christobrits making so many communities unemployed and disenfranchised (well, when the Brits didn't kill our ancestors outright with their famines and their holy guns, that is):
http://www.hvk.org/articles/1204/59.html Sandhya Jain
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Even Dalit intellectuals have questioned what the British meant when they spoke of âeducationâ and âlearningâ. Dr. D.R. Nagaraj, a leading Dalit leader of Karnataka, wrote that it was the British, particularly Lord Wellesley, who declared the Vedantic Hinduism of the Brahmins of Benares and Navadweep as âthe standard Hinduism,â because they realized that the vitality of the Hindu dharma of the lower castes was a threat to the empire. Fort William College, founded by Wellesley in 1800, played a major role in investing Vedantic learning with a prominence it probably hadnât had for centuries. In the process, the cultural heritage of the lower castes was successfully marginalized, and this remains an enduring legacy of colonialism.
<b>Examining Dharampalâs âIndian science and technology in the eighteenth century,â Nagaraj observed that most of the native skills and technologies that perished as a result of British policies were those of the Dalit and artisan castes.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Basically, many skilled Hindu communities lost out thanks to christian policy and rule in India (as had similarly happened earlier under islamic rule). And the christoBrits' phenomenal success - thanks to creating mass-illiteracy in India and miseducation otherwise (christian brainwash 'education') - has been so great that there's still been little opportunity for many communities to get back on track. With all the NGOs, red herrings (dalit theology/movements, deluded media trying to delude others, communitwitism, DMK) and other time-wasters going on, people have additionally been set adrift on the wrong course.
This next bit is separate yet relevant here to show how, while the non-European cases are accused of racist or other discrimination (or have an AIT invented for them in order to paint an epic tableau to support christo-invented fables of racism), the real deal is swept under the rug:
http://www.holocaust-trc.org/thegypsies.htm says how "Zigeuner" (Dutch and German word for the Roma, 'Gypsies') comes from Greek and actually literally meant untouchable in its origin. And note that this was <i>actually</i> for christoracist reasons, it was *not* related to any religious idea of "pollution" other than that born of racism.
http://www.chgs.umn.edu/histories/victims/...ti/gypsies.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>How European Prejudice Developed</b>
To understand how European prejudice developed against Gypsies we must explore the European western mind in the medieval period. When Gypsies first appeared, Christianity had shaped the doctrine of war between light and dark and personified the white angels against the black devils. To the church the Gypsy culture was non-acceptable and their dark skin exemplified evil and inferiority. Hence in western Christian Europe the dark-skinned Gypsies became victims of prejudice as a result of this Christian doctrine.
[...]
Early chroniclers wrote with revulsion of the blackness of Gypsies. The monk Cornerius of Lubeck, reporting on Gypsies he had encountered in 1417, refers to their "most ugly faces, black like those of Tartars." (Kenrick 1972:19). Another monk, Rufus, also of Lubeck, wrote disapprovingly of their dark skins. And, in both the Italian and Dutch languages there evolved the saying, 'black as a Gypsy.' (Kenrick 1972:19).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The nazis tried to exterminate all the non-oryans in their land: that is, the Jews and the Roma. The nazis were not labouring under any fantasies about how ethnic Indians (Roma) were supposedly also 'oryans'. Not even other "white" people like Jews and Russians were allowed into the grand ranks of the oryans. Instead, they were murdered for supposedly being 'untermenschen'.
The thing is, the concept - what the west terms "spiritual pollution" - was there in India in earlier times. And such situations existed in different forms, whether for similar or different reasons, in other countries like Japan, Congo, Rwanda (see that article on Rwanda linked in post 113).
What's there today in India is quite different and oftentimes quite separate from the Indian past, because today's situation is much the result of unnatural conditions: tyrannical christoislami colonialism actually has much to answer for today's state. One could compare the small number of "castes" and the situation in India noted by the Chinese with the continuously increasing numbers of castes during islamic tyranny, up to the vast numbers under christobritish rule due to the christobrits making so many communities unemployed and disenfranchised (well, when the Brits didn't kill our ancestors outright with their famines and their holy guns, that is):
http://www.hvk.org/articles/1204/59.html Sandhya Jain
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Even Dalit intellectuals have questioned what the British meant when they spoke of âeducationâ and âlearningâ. Dr. D.R. Nagaraj, a leading Dalit leader of Karnataka, wrote that it was the British, particularly Lord Wellesley, who declared the Vedantic Hinduism of the Brahmins of Benares and Navadweep as âthe standard Hinduism,â because they realized that the vitality of the Hindu dharma of the lower castes was a threat to the empire. Fort William College, founded by Wellesley in 1800, played a major role in investing Vedantic learning with a prominence it probably hadnât had for centuries. In the process, the cultural heritage of the lower castes was successfully marginalized, and this remains an enduring legacy of colonialism.
<b>Examining Dharampalâs âIndian science and technology in the eighteenth century,â Nagaraj observed that most of the native skills and technologies that perished as a result of British policies were those of the Dalit and artisan castes.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Basically, many skilled Hindu communities lost out thanks to christian policy and rule in India (as had similarly happened earlier under islamic rule). And the christoBrits' phenomenal success - thanks to creating mass-illiteracy in India and miseducation otherwise (christian brainwash 'education') - has been so great that there's still been little opportunity for many communities to get back on track. With all the NGOs, red herrings (dalit theology/movements, deluded media trying to delude others, communitwitism, DMK) and other time-wasters going on, people have additionally been set adrift on the wrong course.
This next bit is separate yet relevant here to show how, while the non-European cases are accused of racist or other discrimination (or have an AIT invented for them in order to paint an epic tableau to support christo-invented fables of racism), the real deal is swept under the rug:
http://www.holocaust-trc.org/thegypsies.htm says how "Zigeuner" (Dutch and German word for the Roma, 'Gypsies') comes from Greek and actually literally meant untouchable in its origin. And note that this was <i>actually</i> for christoracist reasons, it was *not* related to any religious idea of "pollution" other than that born of racism.
http://www.chgs.umn.edu/histories/victims/...ti/gypsies.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>How European Prejudice Developed</b>
To understand how European prejudice developed against Gypsies we must explore the European western mind in the medieval period. When Gypsies first appeared, Christianity had shaped the doctrine of war between light and dark and personified the white angels against the black devils. To the church the Gypsy culture was non-acceptable and their dark skin exemplified evil and inferiority. Hence in western Christian Europe the dark-skinned Gypsies became victims of prejudice as a result of this Christian doctrine.
[...]
Early chroniclers wrote with revulsion of the blackness of Gypsies. The monk Cornerius of Lubeck, reporting on Gypsies he had encountered in 1417, refers to their "most ugly faces, black like those of Tartars." (Kenrick 1972:19). Another monk, Rufus, also of Lubeck, wrote disapprovingly of their dark skins. And, in both the Italian and Dutch languages there evolved the saying, 'black as a Gypsy.' (Kenrick 1972:19).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The nazis tried to exterminate all the non-oryans in their land: that is, the Jews and the Roma. The nazis were not labouring under any fantasies about how ethnic Indians (Roma) were supposedly also 'oryans'. Not even other "white" people like Jews and Russians were allowed into the grand ranks of the oryans. Instead, they were murdered for supposedly being 'untermenschen'.
Death to traitors.