04-30-2008, 12:12 AM
Mudy
I think the race issue has always been there - and it has been the main issue - from what I have seen so far in this election. But if one looks at the public discourse, it is almost non-existent. And it keeps appearing in some kind of code language, unless ofcourse when Shri Wright speaks.. <!--emo&
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I have found Jay Cost to be a sensible writer on RCP. He has this in his article today.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horserace..._answers_1.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->What is more, the candidate in question happens to be black. This further limits the utility of the polls. <b>There has been a heated debate in political science for a quarter century over whether white America has become less racist, or whether its racism has become less transparent</b>. Researchers have found that whites now tend to answer straightforward questions about race in a much less racist way. However, some researchers claim to detect racism in responses to seemingly unrelated questions. Others vehemently disagree. Putting aside the merits of the arguments pro and con, the point is that polls have failed to arbitrate the dispute. Researchers look at the same answers to the same questions, yet see two different opinions.
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And speaking of code-language, this piece is interesting..
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/...contributi.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->On Monday, Wright also espoused the racialist doctrine that blacks have "different" learning styles than do others. This doctrine of racially different brains, or of an unalterably different black culture, is a doctrine today used to justify various soft bigotries of low expectations regarding blacks, and especially black children. It has a long pedigree as a rationalization for injustices. Slaveholders and, later, segregationists loved it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No matter what Rev Wright says. Read this analysis. And see how this gora-saheb turns this race-argument on its head. I would think 100% blacks will have no problems with what Wright said in this matter. But to take this and spin it in completely different direction is really interesting. IOW this para means nothing to blacks. It means nothing to whites. And this person feels good about accusing another one as racist.
Dhu said in the beginning of this thread that when whites are talking there is some real sophisticated subtlety in play. I thought this was a prime example.
I think the race issue has always been there - and it has been the main issue - from what I have seen so far in this election. But if one looks at the public discourse, it is almost non-existent. And it keeps appearing in some kind of code language, unless ofcourse when Shri Wright speaks.. <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='smile.gif' /><!--endemo-->I have found Jay Cost to be a sensible writer on RCP. He has this in his article today.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horserace..._answers_1.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->What is more, the candidate in question happens to be black. This further limits the utility of the polls. <b>There has been a heated debate in political science for a quarter century over whether white America has become less racist, or whether its racism has become less transparent</b>. Researchers have found that whites now tend to answer straightforward questions about race in a much less racist way. However, some researchers claim to detect racism in responses to seemingly unrelated questions. Others vehemently disagree. Putting aside the merits of the arguments pro and con, the point is that polls have failed to arbitrate the dispute. Researchers look at the same answers to the same questions, yet see two different opinions.
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And speaking of code-language, this piece is interesting..
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/...contributi.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->On Monday, Wright also espoused the racialist doctrine that blacks have "different" learning styles than do others. This doctrine of racially different brains, or of an unalterably different black culture, is a doctrine today used to justify various soft bigotries of low expectations regarding blacks, and especially black children. It has a long pedigree as a rationalization for injustices. Slaveholders and, later, segregationists loved it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No matter what Rev Wright says. Read this analysis. And see how this gora-saheb turns this race-argument on its head. I would think 100% blacks will have no problems with what Wright said in this matter. But to take this and spin it in completely different direction is really interesting. IOW this para means nothing to blacks. It means nothing to whites. And this person feels good about accusing another one as racist.
Dhu said in the beginning of this thread that when whites are talking there is some real sophisticated subtlety in play. I thought this was a prime example.