05-31-2008, 04:56 PM
Apteji,
<!--QuoteBegin-Apte+May 31 2008, 02:40 AM-->QUOTE(Apte @ May 31 2008, 02:40 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->List of main issue came out during this primary season -
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List of issues keeping republicans awake at night
<b>1) Phony war in Iraq
2) Hurricane Katrina
3) Gas @ $4/gallon
4) Subprime mess/rising foreclosures
5) Republican corruption (Delay, abramoff, Konrand Burns)
6) Loomng recession
7) Failed war on terror - Bin Laden still alive</b>
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I thought Hillary Clinton was responsible for all this. So I was told all these days by my favorite left leaning blogs - HuffPo and DailyKos.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Gov. Dean managed to win democrats the majority in house and senate with his 50 state strategy - the majority that was squandered by Bill and Hillary in 1994 with hillary's disastrous healthcare plan
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What was disastrous about Hillary's healthcare plan? That the State Children's healthcare program was bad? '97 bill of getting kids from foster home to adoption was disastrous? That she took on a right cause though not popular at that time and now given the state of mess very Tom Dick and Obama has a opinion on Healthcare?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Two states with the lowest education attainment and household income!!
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Nice try. Try this logic with MA where both Senators Teddy pappa and Kerry along with lend-notesto-Barak-Governor endorsed BO. And it's the state with the highest number of colleges per square mile - if I'm not mistaken.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Let us not forget, Clinton's "centrist" policies in the 90s were actually not beneficial to the blue-collar workers (manufacturing jobs left US in droves as a result of his free-trade/NAFTA policies).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
All these Obama supporters today were then plugging NAFTA in 90s. Remember Gore debating Perot on CNN on this? And you seriously believe that this will change after Obama is elected? Or is it just the kool-aid of Hope speaking? Barak's team was having back door meets with Canadian diplomats on this while he advocated something else in OH. Or did you miss this?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->They are tired of the DLC fraud perpetrated by Clinton/Lieberman etc. Gore, Edwards etc. have distanced themselves from the DLC.
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Doesn't make sense. Gore sat with Clinton in WH. And what fraud did Clinton perpetrate?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Obama is bringing new constituencies to democratic party
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For that he deserves credit. He's probabily a good man though light on experience. Though his most vocal supporters online or on TV no different that from right wing neo con nut house - they'll say anything or do anything to push his candidacy.
<!--QuoteBegin-Apte+May 31 2008, 02:40 AM-->QUOTE(Apte @ May 31 2008, 02:40 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->List of main issue came out during this primary season -
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
List of issues keeping republicans awake at night
<b>1) Phony war in Iraq
2) Hurricane Katrina
3) Gas @ $4/gallon
4) Subprime mess/rising foreclosures
5) Republican corruption (Delay, abramoff, Konrand Burns)
6) Loomng recession
7) Failed war on terror - Bin Laden still alive</b>
[right][snapback]82208[/snapback][/right]
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I thought Hillary Clinton was responsible for all this. So I was told all these days by my favorite left leaning blogs - HuffPo and DailyKos.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Gov. Dean managed to win democrats the majority in house and senate with his 50 state strategy - the majority that was squandered by Bill and Hillary in 1994 with hillary's disastrous healthcare plan
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What was disastrous about Hillary's healthcare plan? That the State Children's healthcare program was bad? '97 bill of getting kids from foster home to adoption was disastrous? That she took on a right cause though not popular at that time and now given the state of mess very Tom Dick and Obama has a opinion on Healthcare?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Two states with the lowest education attainment and household income!!
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nice try. Try this logic with MA where both Senators Teddy pappa and Kerry along with lend-notesto-Barak-Governor endorsed BO. And it's the state with the highest number of colleges per square mile - if I'm not mistaken.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Let us not forget, Clinton's "centrist" policies in the 90s were actually not beneficial to the blue-collar workers (manufacturing jobs left US in droves as a result of his free-trade/NAFTA policies).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
All these Obama supporters today were then plugging NAFTA in 90s. Remember Gore debating Perot on CNN on this? And you seriously believe that this will change after Obama is elected? Or is it just the kool-aid of Hope speaking? Barak's team was having back door meets with Canadian diplomats on this while he advocated something else in OH. Or did you miss this?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->They are tired of the DLC fraud perpetrated by Clinton/Lieberman etc. Gore, Edwards etc. have distanced themselves from the DLC.
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Doesn't make sense. Gore sat with Clinton in WH. And what fraud did Clinton perpetrate?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Obama is bringing new constituencies to democratic party
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
For that he deserves credit. He's probabily a good man though light on experience. Though his most vocal supporters online or on TV no different that from right wing neo con nut house - they'll say anything or do anything to push his candidacy.