06-04-2008, 05:52 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->What if Hillary launches a third party bid (like that turncoat Liberman)?
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Lieberman won because of republican support. I don't see republicans ever voting for Hillary in large numbers, even if she runs with McCain (it will be hypocrisy especially after she urged her supporters not to vote for McCain). In the unlikely event that happens, independents and significant chunk of republicans will desert McCain, as that will be seen as a marriage of convenience devoid of any principle (how will she reconcile her universal health care with McCain's laissez-faire approach?). Voters are not that stupid.
Hillary is hanging on because she wants to be VP, that alone displays her hunger for power. Also she is hanging in there so that she can fleece her supporters for some more money - she is in a $20M hole with $11M of her own money on the line (30% of her assets). Until she gets that money back, I expect her to continue to run.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hillary supports come Puerto Rico/MA/FL in east to TX in South to CA in West.
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Puerto-ricans don't vote in GE. And any sensible person will claim that Obama will lose CA and MA because of Hillary.
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The only states where her hardcore supporters can cause a difference to Obama are in the appalachian states (OH, PA, WV and western part of VA). I don't see even Hillary winning KY, TN or OK even if she is the nominee. Around 25% of her supporters in the appalachian states indicated that they may vote against Obama or stay at home. I expect probably 60% of those folks to eventually embrace the democratic nominee (just like republicans have started embracing McCain). The remaining 40% - i.e. 10% of her supporters - may have trouble voting for obama. That is how I came up with the 10%, I didn't pull it out of any hat. I assumed a generous % of her supporters having trouble with accepting Obama (and I believe many of those voters wouldn't have voted for Kerry either). Obama need to bring new voters and independents to compensate for those supporters in those states
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->You come back with some legislation or Acts by Obama or Kennedy on Healthcare
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Just because her husband, the president nominated her to a task panel, doesn't prove her expertise on the subject, as I stated before it was an act of nepotism. It was akin to a surgeon asking his unqualified wife to perform a surgery. As expected, in this case the patient died!! <!--emo&
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->o get your facts straight, Drudge's a tabloid that's right leaning. Yesterday it was VanityFair article which has lost it's legs in 24 hours, today Drudge. Oh, brother.
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Had you bothered to read what I had posted, it says Drudge is leaning towards Obama much to the disappointment of republicans. Earlier I had posted a news item about how many republicans are actively supporting and campaigning for Obama.
Drudge /Vanity fair probably has a lot more credibility than some of the sources posted in this forum (like the recent one posted by Mudy). Just because Vanity fair chose not to reveal the sources doesn't mean the sources don't exist. After all, former Clinton Press secretary Dee Dee Myers is part of the editorial board of VF.
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Lieberman won because of republican support. I don't see republicans ever voting for Hillary in large numbers, even if she runs with McCain (it will be hypocrisy especially after she urged her supporters not to vote for McCain). In the unlikely event that happens, independents and significant chunk of republicans will desert McCain, as that will be seen as a marriage of convenience devoid of any principle (how will she reconcile her universal health care with McCain's laissez-faire approach?). Voters are not that stupid.
Hillary is hanging on because she wants to be VP, that alone displays her hunger for power. Also she is hanging in there so that she can fleece her supporters for some more money - she is in a $20M hole with $11M of her own money on the line (30% of her assets). Until she gets that money back, I expect her to continue to run.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Hillary supports come Puerto Rico/MA/FL in east to TX in South to CA in West.
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Puerto-ricans don't vote in GE. And any sensible person will claim that Obama will lose CA and MA because of Hillary.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Since this is a number pulled from a hat, let me talk through my ha
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The only states where her hardcore supporters can cause a difference to Obama are in the appalachian states (OH, PA, WV and western part of VA). I don't see even Hillary winning KY, TN or OK even if she is the nominee. Around 25% of her supporters in the appalachian states indicated that they may vote against Obama or stay at home. I expect probably 60% of those folks to eventually embrace the democratic nominee (just like republicans have started embracing McCain). The remaining 40% - i.e. 10% of her supporters - may have trouble voting for obama. That is how I came up with the 10%, I didn't pull it out of any hat. I assumed a generous % of her supporters having trouble with accepting Obama (and I believe many of those voters wouldn't have voted for Kerry either). Obama need to bring new voters and independents to compensate for those supporters in those states
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->You come back with some legislation or Acts by Obama or Kennedy on Healthcare
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Just because her husband, the president nominated her to a task panel, doesn't prove her expertise on the subject, as I stated before it was an act of nepotism. It was akin to a surgeon asking his unqualified wife to perform a surgery. As expected, in this case the patient died!! <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='biggrin.gif' /><!--endemo--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->o get your facts straight, Drudge's a tabloid that's right leaning. Yesterday it was VanityFair article which has lost it's legs in 24 hours, today Drudge. Oh, brother.
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Had you bothered to read what I had posted, it says Drudge is leaning towards Obama much to the disappointment of republicans. Earlier I had posted a news item about how many republicans are actively supporting and campaigning for Obama.
Drudge /Vanity fair probably has a lot more credibility than some of the sources posted in this forum (like the recent one posted by Mudy). Just because Vanity fair chose not to reveal the sources doesn't mean the sources don't exist. After all, former Clinton Press secretary Dee Dee Myers is part of the editorial board of VF.