06-08-2008, 12:08 PM
Continued.
<!--QuoteBegin-Pandyan+Jun 7 2008, 06:28 PM-->QUOTE(Pandyan @ Jun 7 2008, 06:28 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"These impious Galileans not only feed their own poor, but ours also; welcoming them into their agapae, they attract them, as children are attracted, with cakes.
"Whilst the pagan priests neglect the poor, the hated Galileans devote themselves to works of charity, and by a display of false compassion have established and given effect to their pernicious errors. See their love-feasts, and their tables spread for the indigent. Such practice is common among them, and causes a contempt for our gods."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->[right][snapback]82477[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I found something related to/about this on http://www.christianism.com
Julian counters christo attempts to dupe desperate people into converting by reinstating long-neglected practises of the Greco-Roman Natural Traditions of sharing with people in want:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->'308. LETTER OF JULIAN ON PRIESTLY DUTIES, 362 A.D.
(Julian, Ep. 429Câ432A)
This pastoral letter of the emperor gives sundry directions to be enforced by Arsacius' supervision throughout Galatia, where he was high priest.
It is not contained in any manuscript of Julian's works, but early editors have extracted it from Sozomen (HE 5, 16), who quotes it in toto.
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->....5) In each city establish numerous hostels, that strangers may enjoy our philanthropy, not only for our own people, but also for others, whosoever may need money. In the meantime I have formed a plan whence you will procure this. For I have ordered that in each year 30,000 modii of grain and 60,000 sextarii of wine shall be given throughout all Galatia. And of these I say that a fifth shall be expended for the poor, to whom the priests minister, and that the rest shall be allotted by us to strangers and to beggars. For it is shameful that, if none of the Jews asks alms and the impious Galilaeans5 [Christians] support our poor also beside their own, ours appear in need of aid from us. And teach the followers of the Greek religion to join in payments to such public services and the Greek villages to offer first fruits of the crops to the gods and to accustom the followers of the Greek religion to such beneficences by teaching them that this was our action long ago. Indeed, Homer has made Eumaeus say this: "Stranger, it is not lawful for me, even if a lowlier person than you should come, to dishonor a stranger; for from Zeus are all strangers and beggars. And a gift, while slight, is yet precious. "6 Then let us not dishonor by indifference or rather abandon the piety toward the gods by permitting others to surpass our good deeds. If I learn that you do these things, I shall be full of good cheer.'<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
[243]. [see also: 248 (304D), 249 (footnote 19)].
[Julian 331 - 363 (Born in Constantinople; never at Rome [at Athens 355] ["proclaimed Augustus at Paris" 360 (Lutetia: "old tribal capital of the Parisii") (The Emperor Julian, R. Browning, 1975, 243, 90)]) (Emperor 361 - 363 [(Mesopotamia) spear!])].<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Julian could see what christos were doing and would not allow them to do the usual rice-christian routine or to falsely claim superiority for christianism (christos only targetted the poorer people because they couldn't dupe people who were not desperate - they had tried and given up on tricking the better-off Romans).
<!--QuoteBegin-Pandyan+Jun 7 2008, 06:28 PM-->QUOTE(Pandyan @ Jun 7 2008, 06:28 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"These impious Galileans not only feed their own poor, but ours also; welcoming them into their agapae, they attract them, as children are attracted, with cakes.
"Whilst the pagan priests neglect the poor, the hated Galileans devote themselves to works of charity, and by a display of false compassion have established and given effect to their pernicious errors. See their love-feasts, and their tables spread for the indigent. Such practice is common among them, and causes a contempt for our gods."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->[right][snapback]82477[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->I found something related to/about this on http://www.christianism.com
Julian counters christo attempts to dupe desperate people into converting by reinstating long-neglected practises of the Greco-Roman Natural Traditions of sharing with people in want:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->'308. LETTER OF JULIAN ON PRIESTLY DUTIES, 362 A.D.
(Julian, Ep. 429Câ432A)
This pastoral letter of the emperor gives sundry directions to be enforced by Arsacius' supervision throughout Galatia, where he was high priest.
It is not contained in any manuscript of Julian's works, but early editors have extracted it from Sozomen (HE 5, 16), who quotes it in toto.
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->....5) In each city establish numerous hostels, that strangers may enjoy our philanthropy, not only for our own people, but also for others, whosoever may need money. In the meantime I have formed a plan whence you will procure this. For I have ordered that in each year 30,000 modii of grain and 60,000 sextarii of wine shall be given throughout all Galatia. And of these I say that a fifth shall be expended for the poor, to whom the priests minister, and that the rest shall be allotted by us to strangers and to beggars. For it is shameful that, if none of the Jews asks alms and the impious Galilaeans5 [Christians] support our poor also beside their own, ours appear in need of aid from us. And teach the followers of the Greek religion to join in payments to such public services and the Greek villages to offer first fruits of the crops to the gods and to accustom the followers of the Greek religion to such beneficences by teaching them that this was our action long ago. Indeed, Homer has made Eumaeus say this: "Stranger, it is not lawful for me, even if a lowlier person than you should come, to dishonor a stranger; for from Zeus are all strangers and beggars. And a gift, while slight, is yet precious. "6 Then let us not dishonor by indifference or rather abandon the piety toward the gods by permitting others to surpass our good deeds. If I learn that you do these things, I shall be full of good cheer.'<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
[243]. [see also: 248 (304D), 249 (footnote 19)].
[Julian 331 - 363 (Born in Constantinople; never at Rome [at Athens 355] ["proclaimed Augustus at Paris" 360 (Lutetia: "old tribal capital of the Parisii") (The Emperor Julian, R. Browning, 1975, 243, 90)]) (Emperor 361 - 363 [(Mesopotamia) spear!])].<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Julian could see what christos were doing and would not allow them to do the usual rice-christian routine or to falsely claim superiority for christianism (christos only targetted the poorer people because they couldn't dupe people who were not desperate - they had tried and given up on tricking the better-off Romans).