Post 137 (Shambhu):
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Let things go slowly.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I have made strongly nationalist people to whom hindutva was anathema take a good look at real islam. At first the y laugh at you, but if you go slow, they will see the light and start reading about real islam. It all has to go slow otherwise we will be sitting here talking amongst ourselves while the rest of the world walks by..<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Your results are impressive, but your timing (though it's not your fault that you were born only now) is poor.
Shambhu, it's far too late for us to start now with small steps. We have to say an outright No to christianism <i>now</i>. Not a weak "maybe later" and postpone the full-blown refutations to some future time: it's too late for dawdling, because the question left to us is not whether we can win, but How Much we are willing to lose. And that is seriously dependent on time and of course effort.
Our generation - absolutely no later - has to make the stand and make it significant.
And in that way, whatever may be left to salvage for the remaining Hindu population in Bharatam may be preserved with some effort. That "No" means countering christianist propaganda with facts about christianism: mostly directed towards Hindus.
We may have lost the battle that concerned us, however christianism need never win the war. So if our gen does this right, it means other peoples can win and be left standing in the end. And if even only one of the Natural Traditions were to survive completely intact and with no threat against it in the future, I think we'd have succeeded better than most could wish for.
Romans would have pounced on all the information on christianism available to us. But Indians only know self-censorship to prevent offending (with facts) the sensibilities of christianism, while christianism has no such reservations on offending everyone else with its lies. We've tried treading softly around christianism though it never deserved it, now it's time to ignore it (no negotiation, no dialogue - it BADLY wants dialogue, that's what it looks for in countries where the majority is not christoislamicommunist) and just focus on telling our own people the facts.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Let things go slowly.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I have made strongly nationalist people to whom hindutva was anathema take a good look at real islam. At first the y laugh at you, but if you go slow, they will see the light and start reading about real islam. It all has to go slow otherwise we will be sitting here talking amongst ourselves while the rest of the world walks by..<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Your results are impressive, but your timing (though it's not your fault that you were born only now) is poor.
Shambhu, it's far too late for us to start now with small steps. We have to say an outright No to christianism <i>now</i>. Not a weak "maybe later" and postpone the full-blown refutations to some future time: it's too late for dawdling, because the question left to us is not whether we can win, but How Much we are willing to lose. And that is seriously dependent on time and of course effort.
Our generation - absolutely no later - has to make the stand and make it significant.
And in that way, whatever may be left to salvage for the remaining Hindu population in Bharatam may be preserved with some effort. That "No" means countering christianist propaganda with facts about christianism: mostly directed towards Hindus.
We may have lost the battle that concerned us, however christianism need never win the war. So if our gen does this right, it means other peoples can win and be left standing in the end. And if even only one of the Natural Traditions were to survive completely intact and with no threat against it in the future, I think we'd have succeeded better than most could wish for.
Romans would have pounced on all the information on christianism available to us. But Indians only know self-censorship to prevent offending (with facts) the sensibilities of christianism, while christianism has no such reservations on offending everyone else with its lies. We've tried treading softly around christianism though it never deserved it, now it's time to ignore it (no negotiation, no dialogue - it BADLY wants dialogue, that's what it looks for in countries where the majority is not christoislamicommunist) and just focus on telling our own people the facts.