06-15-2008, 05:54 AM
(This post was last modified: 06-15-2008, 06:02 AM by Bharatvarsh.)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Unlike the muslims and christians, we don't have any cleric/priest dictating what our actions should be. I have serious doubts whether this will ever succeed. What we need to do is to empower women in these communities. Encourage them to establish a career for themselves. We need to break the control of the clergy over them. I think this is more realistic.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sorry but how will u make that happen when the gov't cant even implement existing laws?
You think indian gov't has any guts to go near Muslim women?
And I have seen Muslim women in careers with 3 or 4 kids, one was a doctor and she had 4 kids.
Let us assume your idea succeeds, what guarantee is there that it will bring their birthrate in line with Hindus, afterall till the other day people were saying that economics is what causes Muslim birthrate, them being "poor" and all, but look at Kerala where the literacy is the same (yes even for Muslim women) and they are wealthier than Hindus because of the Gulf money, yet they have a much higher birth rate. Most of the suicide cases in Kerala are also Hindus due to poverty.
Look at Saudi and other Arab countries, fat off arab oil and wealthy but birth rates over 3 (and i thought economic prosperity is supposed to bring down birth rates).
My point is how can u rely on this gov't that dont even got the balls to arrest Imam Bukhari with a warrant in hand, or Qureshi for his death threats against Danish cartoonists, or protect Hindu right to exhibit Aurangzeb's atrocities, i mean these are BASIC stuff that any civilized country with laws should be able to do, and you think they will be able to make Muslim women to take to careers enmasse and bring about some Muslim version of Gloria Steinem or Jane Fonda?
Thats like saying, we don't have a plane that can go up 600 metres but we are sure that our gov't is gonna land us on the moon.
Even assuming that this would happen, how many years will it take u think, 60 yrs have passed, UCC ain't even on the horizon, neither is Ram Mandir, if it takes another 200 years, how will they achieve this then when Muslims mayb 20% or more when they can't even do it now when they are 13%?
The point is after 60 years of experience, it is foolishness of the highest order to rely on the Indian gov't or the police to save u, they don't care about Hindu lives or if the country becomes a Muslim theocracy, infact they are actively assisting Muslim fanatics towards that end.
Also please note that if this Global Warming predictions are reliable then I would reckon Bangladesh will go underwater, where do u think all those hordes will go?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't see the point of exporting excess population to other countries if they are needed to keep back this demographic invasion. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The point is to make new territories Hindu majority as a backup, what do you think Muslims are doing in Europe?
The fact remains that most of the "overpop" scaremongering is used to screw Hindus only, the others can do as they please.
Sorry but how will u make that happen when the gov't cant even implement existing laws?
You think indian gov't has any guts to go near Muslim women?
And I have seen Muslim women in careers with 3 or 4 kids, one was a doctor and she had 4 kids.
Let us assume your idea succeeds, what guarantee is there that it will bring their birthrate in line with Hindus, afterall till the other day people were saying that economics is what causes Muslim birthrate, them being "poor" and all, but look at Kerala where the literacy is the same (yes even for Muslim women) and they are wealthier than Hindus because of the Gulf money, yet they have a much higher birth rate. Most of the suicide cases in Kerala are also Hindus due to poverty.
Look at Saudi and other Arab countries, fat off arab oil and wealthy but birth rates over 3 (and i thought economic prosperity is supposed to bring down birth rates).
My point is how can u rely on this gov't that dont even got the balls to arrest Imam Bukhari with a warrant in hand, or Qureshi for his death threats against Danish cartoonists, or protect Hindu right to exhibit Aurangzeb's atrocities, i mean these are BASIC stuff that any civilized country with laws should be able to do, and you think they will be able to make Muslim women to take to careers enmasse and bring about some Muslim version of Gloria Steinem or Jane Fonda?
Thats like saying, we don't have a plane that can go up 600 metres but we are sure that our gov't is gonna land us on the moon.
Even assuming that this would happen, how many years will it take u think, 60 yrs have passed, UCC ain't even on the horizon, neither is Ram Mandir, if it takes another 200 years, how will they achieve this then when Muslims mayb 20% or more when they can't even do it now when they are 13%?
The point is after 60 years of experience, it is foolishness of the highest order to rely on the Indian gov't or the police to save u, they don't care about Hindu lives or if the country becomes a Muslim theocracy, infact they are actively assisting Muslim fanatics towards that end.
Also please note that if this Global Warming predictions are reliable then I would reckon Bangladesh will go underwater, where do u think all those hordes will go?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't see the point of exporting excess population to other countries if they are needed to keep back this demographic invasion. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The point is to make new territories Hindu majority as a backup, what do you think Muslims are doing in Europe?
The fact remains that most of the "overpop" scaremongering is used to screw Hindus only, the others can do as they please.