05-21-2005, 06:00 PM
"Thus we have Rajasic and Tamasic Shastras too devoted to the worship of Kali and even Ghosts. We also have the left handed Tantrik Schools and such."
But ISKCON seems to say that kali worship is a deviation from Hinduism so why do they accept Islam.
"The Muslim religion is a Rajasic+tamasic religion meant for the upliftment of the totally irreligious Arabs. "
Your statement is very insulting to the pagan Arabs who were forcibly converted to islam, they had their own religion before islam so why do u assume they are irreligious.
"Ditto for Christians. Jesus just wanted to teach them simple 'love thy neighbour as yourself' stuff to the barbarians. Also Jesus himself mentions that whatever he teaches was just the basic. That means the Christians will have to seek beyond the teachings of their Guru for the real whole thing."
You are assuming that somehow the pagans and jews were barbarians and Jesus taught them religion. The statement about "love thy neighbour as urself" is found in the old testament so there is nothing new that jesus taught, contrary to ur claims, sometimes Jesus claims that he is God himself and at other times he addresses God as his father, but the Christian belief is that Jesus is God. Christians do not believe what u say, they believe that the whole truth is in the Bible and u can only be saved through jesus and Jesus himself claims that those who do not accept him are going to hell.
"It is not a chance that Jesus has so many followers that we can just regard it as a accident of history. No, Jesus must have some power which in turn must come from the Lord of the Universe"
It is not because of Jesus' power that he has so many followers but because the Church forcibly converted pagans of Europe and other continents. In India itself there was the Goan Inquisition in which thousands of Hindus were tortured and forcibly converted, the African slaves were forcibly converted to Christianity, the Natives of South America like the Mayas and Incas were also forcibly converted to Christianity. In Australia and North America Native children were sent to residential schools where they were forced to give up their language, dress, culture and religion (and were forced to practice Christianity) which is why Jesus has so many followers, not because of his power but because of the crimes of christians. By this logic Hitler should also have had some divine power because he had so many followers among Germans, number of followers prove nothing.
But ISKCON seems to say that kali worship is a deviation from Hinduism so why do they accept Islam.
"The Muslim religion is a Rajasic+tamasic religion meant for the upliftment of the totally irreligious Arabs. "
Your statement is very insulting to the pagan Arabs who were forcibly converted to islam, they had their own religion before islam so why do u assume they are irreligious.
"Ditto for Christians. Jesus just wanted to teach them simple 'love thy neighbour as yourself' stuff to the barbarians. Also Jesus himself mentions that whatever he teaches was just the basic. That means the Christians will have to seek beyond the teachings of their Guru for the real whole thing."
You are assuming that somehow the pagans and jews were barbarians and Jesus taught them religion. The statement about "love thy neighbour as urself" is found in the old testament so there is nothing new that jesus taught, contrary to ur claims, sometimes Jesus claims that he is God himself and at other times he addresses God as his father, but the Christian belief is that Jesus is God. Christians do not believe what u say, they believe that the whole truth is in the Bible and u can only be saved through jesus and Jesus himself claims that those who do not accept him are going to hell.
"It is not a chance that Jesus has so many followers that we can just regard it as a accident of history. No, Jesus must have some power which in turn must come from the Lord of the Universe"
It is not because of Jesus' power that he has so many followers but because the Church forcibly converted pagans of Europe and other continents. In India itself there was the Goan Inquisition in which thousands of Hindus were tortured and forcibly converted, the African slaves were forcibly converted to Christianity, the Natives of South America like the Mayas and Incas were also forcibly converted to Christianity. In Australia and North America Native children were sent to residential schools where they were forced to give up their language, dress, culture and religion (and were forced to practice Christianity) which is why Jesus has so many followers, not because of his power but because of the crimes of christians. By this logic Hitler should also have had some divine power because he had so many followers among Germans, number of followers prove nothing.