07-13-2008, 10:53 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-13-2008, 11:19 PM by Bharatvarsh.)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->BV/Vishvas do you know if these sounds apply to loans -- is that word from English glass. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
HH, depends, many Tenglish types say "jeero" for "zero" (Telugu word is sunna from skt shunya), others use "zero", so it varies.
A well entrenched word in Telugu that begins with z is "zamindar" but almost everyone says "Jamindaru". By contrast a lot of people say "bazaaru" instead of "bajaaru", so it seems to vary based on the word and people.
In writing nowadays, I have never seen the "Historic Phonetic ..." letters used at all, "ja" is used for "za" in writing like other Indian languages, those two letters "tsa" and "dza" must have gone out of use in writing sometime ago but the sounds persist to this day in some words.
Here is some discussion regarding them:
http://groups.google.com/group/telugu-unic...a0d52932444dca9
If u mean the word "gaazu", no i don't think its from English, here is what the dictionary says:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->gazu (p. 0362) [ gÄzu ] gazu. [Tel.] n. Glass; any vitrified substance such as chinaware or a bracelet, which is made of glass black as jet. Hence, blackness. A bracelet. bangaru gajulu bracelets made of gold. Various kinds of bracelets are called gollagajulu, idigegajulu, meligajulu, turakagajulu, and lakkapattegajulu. gajulu the wards of a lock. gazukapperalu gazu-kapperalu. [Tel.] n. A certain sort of grain. H. iv. 156. gazunilamu gazu-nilamu. n. An artificial sapphire. Also, deep blue or black. NH. v. 46. gazuroyya gazu-royya. n. A crayfish or large prawn. gazuparu gazu-paru. v. n. To blacken or turn blck kantihinamagu. gazuppu gaz-uppu. n. Dross of a glasswork, scori&ae;. gazurayi gazu-rayi. n. A glassy stone. Jet. gazulavandlu gazula-vandlu. n. A certain caste who deal in glass bracelets.
http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/romadict....ple&table=brown<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
HH, depends, many Tenglish types say "jeero" for "zero" (Telugu word is sunna from skt shunya), others use "zero", so it varies.
A well entrenched word in Telugu that begins with z is "zamindar" but almost everyone says "Jamindaru". By contrast a lot of people say "bazaaru" instead of "bajaaru", so it seems to vary based on the word and people.
In writing nowadays, I have never seen the "Historic Phonetic ..." letters used at all, "ja" is used for "za" in writing like other Indian languages, those two letters "tsa" and "dza" must have gone out of use in writing sometime ago but the sounds persist to this day in some words.
Here is some discussion regarding them:
http://groups.google.com/group/telugu-unic...a0d52932444dca9
If u mean the word "gaazu", no i don't think its from English, here is what the dictionary says:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->gazu (p. 0362) [ gÄzu ] gazu. [Tel.] n. Glass; any vitrified substance such as chinaware or a bracelet, which is made of glass black as jet. Hence, blackness. A bracelet. bangaru gajulu bracelets made of gold. Various kinds of bracelets are called gollagajulu, idigegajulu, meligajulu, turakagajulu, and lakkapattegajulu. gajulu the wards of a lock. gazukapperalu gazu-kapperalu. [Tel.] n. A certain sort of grain. H. iv. 156. gazunilamu gazu-nilamu. n. An artificial sapphire. Also, deep blue or black. NH. v. 46. gazuroyya gazu-royya. n. A crayfish or large prawn. gazuparu gazu-paru. v. n. To blacken or turn blck kantihinamagu. gazuppu gaz-uppu. n. Dross of a glasswork, scori&ae;. gazurayi gazu-rayi. n. A glassy stone. Jet. gazulavandlu gazula-vandlu. n. A certain caste who deal in glass bracelets.
http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/romadict....ple&table=brown<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->