10-11-2004, 08:56 AM
" I wonder if any member feels a little "bad" about discussing Gandhi.
Very well , I should say he was one of the prime reasons why British left India. All due credit to him.And that stops there.He is not somebody to whom the rules of our mortal world does not apply.
It is important to study and learn from things in the past."
He did very little. Read the following intelligence reports. I will put in bold the most important points.
Gandhi -- It is perhaps worth noting here, in view of the great fame, which at one time was attached to Gandhi as a political leader,<b> that during the past year he has entirely lost all influence in Indian politics. He has himself more than once publicly stated that he realises this. There are probably several reasons for this. One is that everyone realises that his scheme of securing Swaraj by means of spinning and non-resistance was a mad one.</b> And a more potent cause is that he has managed in one way or another to offend all classes and religions. In the summer of this year, after he had been some weeks in Bengal, all parties in the province disowned him. Now the All-India Congress Committee has cut out his spinning nostrum from the Congress faith, and left him to form a Spinning Association of his own. It was time something of this kind was done; for even by April of this year his insistence on the production of some hanks of homespun yarn as the qualification for the Congress franchise had reduced the number of members from 2,500,000 to 11,000.
www.sulekha.com/hopper/unrest.pdf
Of exceptional interest are the B.P.C.C's replies to the questionnaire set by the A.I.C.C and a note on the difficulties experienced by Congressmen in Bengal, which was given to Mrs. Sarojini Naidu for delivery to Gandhi when she was in Calcutta in September. It is stated in the note that the Hindu Mahasabha had flourished as a result of the communal conflict and at the expense of the Congress; the Forward Bloc had fallen back, especially since Bose's disappearance, but without any corresponding increase in the popularity of the Congress. The Hindu Mahasabha had captured the imagination of the entire middle class. As to the young men and students, they had been won over by communism and to a much smaller extent by the Forward Bloc, whereas the Congress efforts to recruit them had failed. In short the Hindu Mahasabha with its communal cry, the Forward Bloc with its provincial cry (whatever that means!) and communism with its slogans of no rent and no-payment of debts and taxes and its preaching of class hatred, had a great advantage over Congress, which called for patient suffering and sacrifice and gave no promise of immediate gain. <b>...Regarding Satyagraha, an egregious failure in Bengal,</b> it stated that the spirits of the public and the satyagrahis had been dampened by the Government's policy of not arresting the latter. This cannot, however, be the complete reason for the failure. <b>In reality, the public was never interested, and when the Congress leaders themselves were lukewarm</b> and the Jugantar leaders of the Congress were more concerned with the maintenance and strengthening of their own secret party rather than carrying out Congress policy... The picture thus presented is of an enfeebled Hindu Congress losing its popularity to the Hindu Mahasabha, and desiring the revival of Congress committees in order to check its decline and to recover contact with the masses.
www.sulekha.com/hopper/revo.pdf
-Gandhi had little effect on the independence effort.
The Naval mutiny was the most important reason for independence.
Very well , I should say he was one of the prime reasons why British left India. All due credit to him.And that stops there.He is not somebody to whom the rules of our mortal world does not apply.
It is important to study and learn from things in the past."
He did very little. Read the following intelligence reports. I will put in bold the most important points.
Gandhi -- It is perhaps worth noting here, in view of the great fame, which at one time was attached to Gandhi as a political leader,<b> that during the past year he has entirely lost all influence in Indian politics. He has himself more than once publicly stated that he realises this. There are probably several reasons for this. One is that everyone realises that his scheme of securing Swaraj by means of spinning and non-resistance was a mad one.</b> And a more potent cause is that he has managed in one way or another to offend all classes and religions. In the summer of this year, after he had been some weeks in Bengal, all parties in the province disowned him. Now the All-India Congress Committee has cut out his spinning nostrum from the Congress faith, and left him to form a Spinning Association of his own. It was time something of this kind was done; for even by April of this year his insistence on the production of some hanks of homespun yarn as the qualification for the Congress franchise had reduced the number of members from 2,500,000 to 11,000.
www.sulekha.com/hopper/unrest.pdf
Of exceptional interest are the B.P.C.C's replies to the questionnaire set by the A.I.C.C and a note on the difficulties experienced by Congressmen in Bengal, which was given to Mrs. Sarojini Naidu for delivery to Gandhi when she was in Calcutta in September. It is stated in the note that the Hindu Mahasabha had flourished as a result of the communal conflict and at the expense of the Congress; the Forward Bloc had fallen back, especially since Bose's disappearance, but without any corresponding increase in the popularity of the Congress. The Hindu Mahasabha had captured the imagination of the entire middle class. As to the young men and students, they had been won over by communism and to a much smaller extent by the Forward Bloc, whereas the Congress efforts to recruit them had failed. In short the Hindu Mahasabha with its communal cry, the Forward Bloc with its provincial cry (whatever that means!) and communism with its slogans of no rent and no-payment of debts and taxes and its preaching of class hatred, had a great advantage over Congress, which called for patient suffering and sacrifice and gave no promise of immediate gain. <b>...Regarding Satyagraha, an egregious failure in Bengal,</b> it stated that the spirits of the public and the satyagrahis had been dampened by the Government's policy of not arresting the latter. This cannot, however, be the complete reason for the failure. <b>In reality, the public was never interested, and when the Congress leaders themselves were lukewarm</b> and the Jugantar leaders of the Congress were more concerned with the maintenance and strengthening of their own secret party rather than carrying out Congress policy... The picture thus presented is of an enfeebled Hindu Congress losing its popularity to the Hindu Mahasabha, and desiring the revival of Congress committees in order to check its decline and to recover contact with the masses.
www.sulekha.com/hopper/revo.pdf
-Gandhi had little effect on the independence effort.
The Naval mutiny was the most important reason for independence.