09-10-2008, 07:07 AM
Yes the reason is because they dont know the language properly. Some people are fluent with their langages and can speak them correctly, others are not because they speak a lot of slang. I shouldnt have said:
'I have never heard any Indian person use their native word for 'Room' when speaking in one of the Indian languages'
Because I can only understand Gujerati and am not aware of other languages. I should have just said I have never heard anyone speaking in Gujerati use the word Ordo except for my Gujerati teacher, the same is true for Bharat.
In that respect, I think that calling Bharat India in one of India's languages is a mistake like any other slang - Just like saying room or school instead of the correct word.
If you refer to this chart here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_names_of_India
The only languages that actually call Bharat India are English and Tamil. In the other languages, the official name for India already is some form of Bharat.
People are free to call it Bharat, or even Bharatvarsha if they choose to, but calling it India is a mistake unless speaking in English.
<!--QuoteBegin-Capt M Kumar+Jul 30 2008, 11:32 PM-->QUOTE(Capt M Kumar @ Jul 30 2008, 11:32 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->1. Perhaps closer to Indian tribes in America as was thought by Columbus
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I would just like to try and answer this misconception.
There are no 'Indian' tribes in America. The word India was given to America as a mistake. Columbus initially set out on a voyage to discover India, but landed in the Bahamas and mistaked the inhabitants as Indians:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->His initial 1492 voyage came at a critical time of growing national imperialism and economic competition between developing nation states seeking wealth from the establishment of trade routes and colonies. In this sociopolitical climate, Columbus's far-fetched scheme won the attention of Queen Isabella of Spain. Severely underestimating the circumference of the Earth, <b>he hypothesized that a westward route from Iberia to the Indies would be shorter and more direct than the overland trade route through Arabia.</b> If true, this would allow Spain entry into the lucrative spice trade â heretofore commanded by the Arabs and Italians. Following his plotted course, he instead landed within the Bahamas Archipelago at a locale he named San Salvador. <b>Mistaking the North-American island for the East-Asian mainland, he referred to its inhabitants as "Indians</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There were in reality no Indian tribes in America, they were just called this by mistake. The word India has always been meant to describe the people of the Indus Valley, and from the Himalays to the south of India.
The word India originates from Indus, and is the western name for India. The word Bharat originates from the Mahabharata, and is the correct native name for India if speaking in one of India's languages is Bharat (No idea why it is called India in Tamil though).
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>he hypothesized that a westward route from Iberia to the Indies would be shorter and more direct than the overland trade route through Arabia.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
More on this sentance - In Christopher Columbus's days, no one knew that America existed. They only know about the world spanning between Europe and Asia, or from Britain to India. He hypothesized that travelling west over the ocean would allow him to land in India because they thought there was nothing but sea between the West of Europe, and the East of India. So he traveled west, and landed in America in the Bahamas. He thought that he had sailed all the way from europe westwards to East India over the pacific ocean, and that is why the Americans were wrongly called Indians.
'I have never heard any Indian person use their native word for 'Room' when speaking in one of the Indian languages'
Because I can only understand Gujerati and am not aware of other languages. I should have just said I have never heard anyone speaking in Gujerati use the word Ordo except for my Gujerati teacher, the same is true for Bharat.
In that respect, I think that calling Bharat India in one of India's languages is a mistake like any other slang - Just like saying room or school instead of the correct word.
If you refer to this chart here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Official_names_of_India
The only languages that actually call Bharat India are English and Tamil. In the other languages, the official name for India already is some form of Bharat.
People are free to call it Bharat, or even Bharatvarsha if they choose to, but calling it India is a mistake unless speaking in English.
<!--QuoteBegin-Capt M Kumar+Jul 30 2008, 11:32 PM-->QUOTE(Capt M Kumar @ Jul 30 2008, 11:32 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->1. Perhaps closer to Indian tribes in America as was thought by Columbus
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I would just like to try and answer this misconception.
There are no 'Indian' tribes in America. The word India was given to America as a mistake. Columbus initially set out on a voyage to discover India, but landed in the Bahamas and mistaked the inhabitants as Indians:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->His initial 1492 voyage came at a critical time of growing national imperialism and economic competition between developing nation states seeking wealth from the establishment of trade routes and colonies. In this sociopolitical climate, Columbus's far-fetched scheme won the attention of Queen Isabella of Spain. Severely underestimating the circumference of the Earth, <b>he hypothesized that a westward route from Iberia to the Indies would be shorter and more direct than the overland trade route through Arabia.</b> If true, this would allow Spain entry into the lucrative spice trade â heretofore commanded by the Arabs and Italians. Following his plotted course, he instead landed within the Bahamas Archipelago at a locale he named San Salvador. <b>Mistaking the North-American island for the East-Asian mainland, he referred to its inhabitants as "Indians</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There were in reality no Indian tribes in America, they were just called this by mistake. The word India has always been meant to describe the people of the Indus Valley, and from the Himalays to the south of India.
The word India originates from Indus, and is the western name for India. The word Bharat originates from the Mahabharata, and is the correct native name for India if speaking in one of India's languages is Bharat (No idea why it is called India in Tamil though).
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>he hypothesized that a westward route from Iberia to the Indies would be shorter and more direct than the overland trade route through Arabia.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
More on this sentance - In Christopher Columbus's days, no one knew that America existed. They only know about the world spanning between Europe and Asia, or from Britain to India. He hypothesized that travelling west over the ocean would allow him to land in India because they thought there was nothing but sea between the West of Europe, and the East of India. So he traveled west, and landed in America in the Bahamas. He thought that he had sailed all the way from europe westwards to East India over the pacific ocean, and that is why the Americans were wrongly called Indians.