1.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I will stop trying to talk about how i 'think' Bhartavarsha originated, because I am making mistakes at that<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Your mistakes are not only limited to that, it seems:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The name India came directly from King Alfred's translation of the Orosius<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->India is just an <b>English word</b> used in the English language that was <b>first</b> used by King Alfred.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->No.
http://evans-experientialism.freewebspac...sedlar.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->India and the Greek World; A study in the transmission of culture.
Prof. Jean Sedlar
The University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown, PA
<b>The name of India, so far as is known, first appears in Greek literature in the 5th century B. C. in the works of Hekataios and Herodotos.</b> The word is derived from the Indus river (Sanskrit sindhumeans "river"), and in the Greek as well as the Persian language 'India" originally meant only the Indus region, which then belonged to the Persian empire. Herodotos, however, already used the term in a wider sense to denote the whole country; and classical Greek usage followed his example.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->As far as the reference to it by the Greeks and Parsa is concerned, the above quoteblock is right: first appearance of name as "India" in Greek lit was in 5th bce, which Greeks themselves got from Parsa where it existed earlier still.
So it's not from some medieval christo-European king. But as we will see, the long-lasting christo-imposed illiteracy in Europe may have made them believe they invented the word.
I notice that your issue with the legitimate usage of "Bharatavarsha" for our geography (on the grounds that it covers more area than the current region) does not seem to have extended to the - in your <i>opinion</i> 'English' word - "India". Your being so familiar with christoconfusions on the name of India, I would have thought you to be better acquainted than myself on how, in the late christo-western perspective, "India" referred to a lot more than just our subcontinent:
http://hamsa.org/03.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->C.B. Firth, in An Introduction to Indian Church History, writes, "It is no uncommon thing to find [ancient writers] using [the name India] of countries such as Ethiopia, Arabia or Afghanistan. Indeed, except for those who had reason to be acquainted with our India, 'India' was a vague term which might stand for almost any religion beyond the Empire's southeastern frontiers.... "<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://hamsa.org/appendix2.htm#_ftn8
Here Koenraad Elst also explains how, to christo Europe, Japan was also part of the vague landmass tagged as India:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->8 In Roman days and long afterwards, "India" was practically synonymous with "Asia", from Ethiopia to Japan.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
2.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->First of all, 'Hindu' isn't a civilisation, neither is Christianity, or Islam or any other of the worlds religions.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Hindu Dharma is a civilisational ethos. So are the other Natural Traditions of the world.
From Hindu Dharma came Hindu civilisation: all Hindu arts and sciences - including dance forms like Bharatanatyam, the traditional Hindu music of N and S, and martial arts like Kalaripayatt - and all Hindu dynasties. Bauddha civilisation also spans a great geography (of course, there is partial overlap with Hindu geography as often happens with Dharmic and other Natural Traditions). Similarly Jaina civilisational ethos has brought forth literature, kings, dynasties, sciences, architecture of its own. Sikh Kingdoms and accomplishments there were also. Sikh Dharma has not yet had a long enough history to come to the same scale. These are all subsets of the overall Dharmic civilisation that spans more than Bharatavarsha (because Hindu and Bauddha Dharma expanded beyond, for example to southeastern Asia, central Asia, western and eastern Asia).
Christoislamism is a terrorist ideology, a mind-virus.
To list these terrorisms in your statement as being an equivalent to the world's Natural Traditions is to be an apologist for historic and continuing genocide.
Christoislamiterrorism is known for destroying civilisations (for instance, what christianism did to Hellenic civilisation, what islamism did to Parshya civilisation). So yes, I agree with that part of your statement: these terrorisms are not civilisations at all.
Predictably, christoislamism has not contributed anything towards our civilisation. (Unless your oh-so-objectively 'secular' idea of 'civilisation' includes such christian practises like christoislamic destructions of Indian Temples, the documented large-scale islamic genocides of Hindus and Buddhists, the christo Inquisitions in Goa, or the christo-mutilation on Hindus practised by the likes of Vasco da Gama - see Richard Hall's book and see Sanjay Subramaniam's book based off of Portuguese records, or the chopping off of fingers of Hindu AyurVeda practitioners and of Hindu weavers as carried out by the christobritish.)
These are all part of the ancient christian 'culture' continuum you know. Just like all christianism did for the GrecoRoman civilisations was to destroy their libraries, destroy the widespread Roman schools and send the region into an illiteracy lasting over a millennium, and of course put the traditional Greco-Romans in concentration camps:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->359
In Skythopolis, Syria, christians organise the first death camps for the torture and execution of arrested Gentiles from all around the Empire.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->^That's right: the christians started these camps long before the christian nazis of the 20th century, and before the recent christian concentration camps for the inconvertible traditional tribes of SE Asia, Africa and S America. The early christoterrorists already developed this christian culture/technique for genociding people of Natural Traditions.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Roman municipalities supplied free elementary instruction for the children of all workers. Anywhere you went, in a suburb of Rome or a small Italian town, you would see the teacher, in the porch of a house perhaps, teaching the children how to write on wax-faced tablets. Practically every Roman worker could read and write by the year 380 A.D., when Christianity began to have real power. By 480 nearly every school in the Empire was destroyed. By 580, and until 1780 at least, from ninety to ninety-five percent of the people of Europe were illiterate and densely ignorant. That is the undisputed historical record of Christianity as regards education.
-- The Story Of Religious Controversy, by Joseph McCabe<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Joseph McCabe is a famous historian who knows a lot about christianism. He was well-versed in Latin and Greek, and was formerly a catholic monk before he realised what a terrorist fraud christianism was.
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I will stop trying to talk about how i 'think' Bhartavarsha originated, because I am making mistakes at that<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Your mistakes are not only limited to that, it seems:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The name India came directly from King Alfred's translation of the Orosius<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->India is just an <b>English word</b> used in the English language that was <b>first</b> used by King Alfred.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->No.
http://evans-experientialism.freewebspac...sedlar.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->India and the Greek World; A study in the transmission of culture.
Prof. Jean Sedlar
The University of Pittsburgh at Johnstown, PA
<b>The name of India, so far as is known, first appears in Greek literature in the 5th century B. C. in the works of Hekataios and Herodotos.</b> The word is derived from the Indus river (Sanskrit sindhumeans "river"), and in the Greek as well as the Persian language 'India" originally meant only the Indus region, which then belonged to the Persian empire. Herodotos, however, already used the term in a wider sense to denote the whole country; and classical Greek usage followed his example.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->As far as the reference to it by the Greeks and Parsa is concerned, the above quoteblock is right: first appearance of name as "India" in Greek lit was in 5th bce, which Greeks themselves got from Parsa where it existed earlier still.
So it's not from some medieval christo-European king. But as we will see, the long-lasting christo-imposed illiteracy in Europe may have made them believe they invented the word.
I notice that your issue with the legitimate usage of "Bharatavarsha" for our geography (on the grounds that it covers more area than the current region) does not seem to have extended to the - in your <i>opinion</i> 'English' word - "India". Your being so familiar with christoconfusions on the name of India, I would have thought you to be better acquainted than myself on how, in the late christo-western perspective, "India" referred to a lot more than just our subcontinent:
http://hamsa.org/03.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->C.B. Firth, in An Introduction to Indian Church History, writes, "It is no uncommon thing to find [ancient writers] using [the name India] of countries such as Ethiopia, Arabia or Afghanistan. Indeed, except for those who had reason to be acquainted with our India, 'India' was a vague term which might stand for almost any religion beyond the Empire's southeastern frontiers.... "<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://hamsa.org/appendix2.htm#_ftn8
Here Koenraad Elst also explains how, to christo Europe, Japan was also part of the vague landmass tagged as India:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->8 In Roman days and long afterwards, "India" was practically synonymous with "Asia", from Ethiopia to Japan.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
2.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->First of all, 'Hindu' isn't a civilisation, neither is Christianity, or Islam or any other of the worlds religions.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Hindu Dharma is a civilisational ethos. So are the other Natural Traditions of the world.
From Hindu Dharma came Hindu civilisation: all Hindu arts and sciences - including dance forms like Bharatanatyam, the traditional Hindu music of N and S, and martial arts like Kalaripayatt - and all Hindu dynasties. Bauddha civilisation also spans a great geography (of course, there is partial overlap with Hindu geography as often happens with Dharmic and other Natural Traditions). Similarly Jaina civilisational ethos has brought forth literature, kings, dynasties, sciences, architecture of its own. Sikh Kingdoms and accomplishments there were also. Sikh Dharma has not yet had a long enough history to come to the same scale. These are all subsets of the overall Dharmic civilisation that spans more than Bharatavarsha (because Hindu and Bauddha Dharma expanded beyond, for example to southeastern Asia, central Asia, western and eastern Asia).
Christoislamism is a terrorist ideology, a mind-virus.
To list these terrorisms in your statement as being an equivalent to the world's Natural Traditions is to be an apologist for historic and continuing genocide.
Christoislamiterrorism is known for destroying civilisations (for instance, what christianism did to Hellenic civilisation, what islamism did to Parshya civilisation). So yes, I agree with that part of your statement: these terrorisms are not civilisations at all.
Predictably, christoislamism has not contributed anything towards our civilisation. (Unless your oh-so-objectively 'secular' idea of 'civilisation' includes such christian practises like christoislamic destructions of Indian Temples, the documented large-scale islamic genocides of Hindus and Buddhists, the christo Inquisitions in Goa, or the christo-mutilation on Hindus practised by the likes of Vasco da Gama - see Richard Hall's book and see Sanjay Subramaniam's book based off of Portuguese records, or the chopping off of fingers of Hindu AyurVeda practitioners and of Hindu weavers as carried out by the christobritish.)
These are all part of the ancient christian 'culture' continuum you know. Just like all christianism did for the GrecoRoman civilisations was to destroy their libraries, destroy the widespread Roman schools and send the region into an illiteracy lasting over a millennium, and of course put the traditional Greco-Romans in concentration camps:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->359
In Skythopolis, Syria, christians organise the first death camps for the torture and execution of arrested Gentiles from all around the Empire.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->^That's right: the christians started these camps long before the christian nazis of the 20th century, and before the recent christian concentration camps for the inconvertible traditional tribes of SE Asia, Africa and S America. The early christoterrorists already developed this christian culture/technique for genociding people of Natural Traditions.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Roman municipalities supplied free elementary instruction for the children of all workers. Anywhere you went, in a suburb of Rome or a small Italian town, you would see the teacher, in the porch of a house perhaps, teaching the children how to write on wax-faced tablets. Practically every Roman worker could read and write by the year 380 A.D., when Christianity began to have real power. By 480 nearly every school in the Empire was destroyed. By 580, and until 1780 at least, from ninety to ninety-five percent of the people of Europe were illiterate and densely ignorant. That is the undisputed historical record of Christianity as regards education.
-- The Story Of Religious Controversy, by Joseph McCabe<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Joseph McCabe is a famous historian who knows a lot about christianism. He was well-versed in Latin and Greek, and was formerly a catholic monk before he realised what a terrorist fraud christianism was.
Edited to add more links