^ Above post more important.
<!--QuoteBegin-ravish+Sep 16 2008, 09:28 PM-->QUOTE(ravish @ Sep 16 2008, 09:28 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Starting out in Mumbai as a model, Zeba, a college graduate, got her break in movies through a client who was influential in Bollywood. She has no regrets about her chosen profession.
"I really hate people who put on an act about not liking something when they actually do. I mean sex is not just what men want, we women want it also," she said.[right][snapback]88093[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Oh how cute! Zeba/Zebra thinks itself an original. But, except for christoislamaniac and psecular women (see below), no one else needs her tiresome sermons on sex. Feministaism afflicts christoislamics and the christoconditioned because they have been/have allowed themselves to be mentally (and in all ways) repressed. No one else was suffering and can be spared the Zebra-style sexual revolution/revelation lectures on "Me Feminista Jane, You Sub-human Un-liberated Hindoo XX".
Hindu and other natural traditionalist societies may not be publicly demonstrative nor encouraging of promiscuity (turns out, neither was much of Ancient Rome), but their marriages have tended to be very affectionate, caring and loving. Unlike the UltraScary married life of christos:
Not quite sure if IF's seen this before already. Pasting it anyway. (Some allusions to matters of a sexual nature - hope it's not in conflict with the age-groups of IF's membership & readership audience)
<b>Warning</b> - below must be the penultimate in Loveless Marriage. Jeebus really makes the greatest of miracles! No wonder christian men and women terrorise other peoples. And no wonder they attack little children and women all over the world. The following also explains why they look as if they're constipated all the time... (And even thinking about sex is forbidden them.)
I hope all christian women in India have received the following pamphlet from their church on how their gawd wants them to behave in and experience married life...
http://www.geocities.com/inexileau/sexua...ession.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Instruction and Advice
For the Young Bride
  <b>On the Conduct and Procedure of the Intimate and Personal Relationships of the Marriage State for the Greater Spiritual Sanctity of this Blessed Sacrament and the Glory of God</b>
 <b>By Ruth Smythers
  Beloved wife of The Reverend L.D. Smythers, Pastor of the Arcadian Methodist Church of the Eastern Regional Conference</b>
  Published in the year of our Lord 1894, <b>Spiritual Guidance Press</b>, New York City.
  To the sensitive young woman who has had the benefits of proper upbringing, the wedding day is, ironically, both the happiest and the most terrifying day of her life. On the positive side, there is the wedding itself, in which the bride is the central attraction in a beautiful and inspiring ceremony, symbolizing her triumph in securing a male to provide for all her needs for the rest of her life. On the negative side, there is the wedding night, during which the bride must pay the piper, so to speak, by facing for the first time the terrible experience of sex.
  At this point, dear reader, let me concede one shocking truth. Some young women actually anticipate the wedding night ordeal with curiosity and pleasure! Beware such an attitude! A selfish and sensual husband can easily take advantage of such a bride.
  One cardinal rule of marriage should never be forgotten: GIVE LITTLE, GIVE SELDOM, AND ABOVE ALL, GIVE GRUDGINGLY. Otherwise what could have been a proper marriage could become an orgy of sexual lust.
  On the other hand, the bride's terror need not be extreme. While sex is at best revolting and at worse rather painful, it has to be endured, and has been by women since the beginning of time, and is compensated for by the monogamous home and by the children produced through it.
  It is useless, in most cases, for the bride to prevail upon the groom to forego the sexual initiation. While the ideal husband would be one who would approach his bride only at her request and only for the purpose of begetting offspring, such nobility and unselfishness cannot be expected from the average man.
  Most men, if not denied, would demand sex almost every day. The wise bride will permit a maximum of two brief sexual experiences weekly during the first months of marriage. As time goes by she should make every effort to reduce this frequency.
  Feigned illness, sleepiness, and headaches are among the wife's best friends in this matter. Arguments, nagging, scolding, and bickering also prove very effective, if used in the late evening about an hour before the husband would normally commence his seduction.
  Clever wives are ever on the alert for new and better methods of denying and discouraging the amorous overtures of the husband. A good wife should expect to have reduced sexual contacts to once a week by the end of the first year of marriage and to once a month by the end of the fifth year of marriage.
  By their tenth anniversary many wives have managed to complete their child bearing and have achieved the ultimate goal of terminating all sexual contacts with the husband. By this time she can depend upon his love for the children and social pressures to hold the husband in the home.
  Just as she should be ever alert to keep the quantity of sex as low as possible, the wise bride will pay equal attention to limiting the kind and degree of sexual contacts. Most men are by nature rather perverted, and if given half a chance, would engage in quite a variety of the most revolting practices. These practices include among others performing the normal act in abnormal positions; mouthing the female body; and offering their own vile bodies to be mouthed in turn.
  Nudity, talking about sex, reading stories about sex, viewing photographs and drawings depicting or suggesting sex are other obnoxious habits the male is likely to acquire if permitted.
  A wise bride will make it her goal never to allow her husband to see her unclothed body, and never allow him to display his unclothed body to her. Sex, when it cannot be prevented, should be practiced only in total darkness. Many women have found it useful to have thick cotton nightgowns for themselves and pajamas for their husbands. These should be donned in separate rooms. They need not be removed during the sex act. Thus, a minimum of flesh is exposed.
  Once the bride has donned her gown and turned off all the lights, she should lie quietly upon the bed and await her groom. When he comes groping into the room she should make no sound to guide him in her direction, lest he take this as a sign of encouragement. She should let him grope in the dark. There is always the hope that he will stumble and incur some slight injury which she can use as an excuse to deny him sexual access.
  When he finds her, the wife should lie as still as possible. Bodily motion on her part could be interpreted as sexual excitement by the optimistic husband.
  If he attempts to kiss her on the lips she should turn her head slightly so that the kiss falls harmlessly on her cheek instead. If he attempts to kiss her hand, she should make a fist. If he lifts her gown and attempts to kiss her anyplace else she should quickly pull the gown back in place, spring from the bed, and announce that nature calls her to the toilet. This will generally dampen his desire to kiss in the forbidden territory.
  If the husband attempts to seduce her with lascivious talk, the wise wife will suddenly remember some trivial non-sexual question to ask him. Once he answers she should keep the conversation going, no matter how frivolous it may seem at the time.
  Eventually, the husband will learn that if he insists on having sexual contact, he must get on with it without amorous embellishment. The wise wife will allow him to pull the gown up no farther than the waist, and only permit him to open the front of his pajamas to thus make connection.
  She will be absolutely silent or babble about her housework while he is huffing and puffing away. Above all, she will lie perfectly still and never under any circumstances grunt or groan while the act is in progress.
  As soon as the husband has completed the act the wise wife will start nagging him about various minor tasks she wishes him to perform on the morrow. Many men obtain a major portion of their sexual satisfaction from the peaceful exhaustion immediately after the act is over. Thus the wife must insure that there is no peace in this period for him to enjoy. Otherwise, he might be encouraged to soon try for more.
  One heartening factor for which the wife can be grateful is the fact that the husband's home, school, church, and social environment have been working together all through his life to instill in him a deep sense of guilt in regards to his sexual feelings, so that he comes to the marriage couch apologetically and filled with shame, already half cowed and subdued. The wise wife seizes upon this advantage and relentlessly pursues her goal first to limit, later to annihilate completely her husband's desire for sexual expression.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yuck. Yuck yuck. <i>Yuck.</i>
hudder
Although the above is <b>not fiction</b> at all (see also the many references to such things in books or dramas set in christo pre-Victorian, Victorian and Edwardian UK say), it reads like the christian inversion of a romance novel - even a "black comedy". Though not personally a fan of the IMO insipid genre called "romance novels", am sure even bad romance novels would be infinitely superior to this vapid fest of cold lovelessness.
Christianism breeds abnormality. Avoid. Next they'll be preaching that going to the bathroom, eating, drinking, sleeping or taking a shower is evil. Oh wait. Showering was already famously discouraged by christianism as being "an invitation for evil" during the ideology's much-loved dark ages and medieval period and was religiously avoided even in UK's Tudor and France's near-Revolutionary times.
When christowest and their feminista subversionists in India accuse Hindus of "prudery", it's just one more christo lie.
Christo societies swing from super-promiscuity and criminality (as in christoised Roman society, and also seen in so many popes throughout the ages) all while strictly disapproving of sex, to christo Victorian prudishness with an underbelly seething with sexual business transactions and sexual crimes/murders, to modern christo-psecular shallow frivolity again. One constant throughout's been christian paedophilia.
The Zebras can stop braying.
<!--QuoteBegin-ravish+Sep 16 2008, 09:28 PM-->QUOTE(ravish @ Sep 16 2008, 09:28 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Starting out in Mumbai as a model, Zeba, a college graduate, got her break in movies through a client who was influential in Bollywood. She has no regrets about her chosen profession.
"I really hate people who put on an act about not liking something when they actually do. I mean sex is not just what men want, we women want it also," she said.[right][snapback]88093[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Oh how cute! Zeba/Zebra thinks itself an original. But, except for christoislamaniac and psecular women (see below), no one else needs her tiresome sermons on sex. Feministaism afflicts christoislamics and the christoconditioned because they have been/have allowed themselves to be mentally (and in all ways) repressed. No one else was suffering and can be spared the Zebra-style sexual revolution/revelation lectures on "Me Feminista Jane, You Sub-human Un-liberated Hindoo XX".
Hindu and other natural traditionalist societies may not be publicly demonstrative nor encouraging of promiscuity (turns out, neither was much of Ancient Rome), but their marriages have tended to be very affectionate, caring and loving. Unlike the UltraScary married life of christos:
Not quite sure if IF's seen this before already. Pasting it anyway. (Some allusions to matters of a sexual nature - hope it's not in conflict with the age-groups of IF's membership & readership audience)
<b>Warning</b> - below must be the penultimate in Loveless Marriage. Jeebus really makes the greatest of miracles! No wonder christian men and women terrorise other peoples. And no wonder they attack little children and women all over the world. The following also explains why they look as if they're constipated all the time... (And even thinking about sex is forbidden them.)
I hope all christian women in India have received the following pamphlet from their church on how their gawd wants them to behave in and experience married life...
http://www.geocities.com/inexileau/sexua...ession.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Instruction and Advice
For the Young Bride
  <b>On the Conduct and Procedure of the Intimate and Personal Relationships of the Marriage State for the Greater Spiritual Sanctity of this Blessed Sacrament and the Glory of God</b>
 <b>By Ruth Smythers
  Beloved wife of The Reverend L.D. Smythers, Pastor of the Arcadian Methodist Church of the Eastern Regional Conference</b>
  Published in the year of our Lord 1894, <b>Spiritual Guidance Press</b>, New York City.
  To the sensitive young woman who has had the benefits of proper upbringing, the wedding day is, ironically, both the happiest and the most terrifying day of her life. On the positive side, there is the wedding itself, in which the bride is the central attraction in a beautiful and inspiring ceremony, symbolizing her triumph in securing a male to provide for all her needs for the rest of her life. On the negative side, there is the wedding night, during which the bride must pay the piper, so to speak, by facing for the first time the terrible experience of sex.
  At this point, dear reader, let me concede one shocking truth. Some young women actually anticipate the wedding night ordeal with curiosity and pleasure! Beware such an attitude! A selfish and sensual husband can easily take advantage of such a bride.
  One cardinal rule of marriage should never be forgotten: GIVE LITTLE, GIVE SELDOM, AND ABOVE ALL, GIVE GRUDGINGLY. Otherwise what could have been a proper marriage could become an orgy of sexual lust.
  On the other hand, the bride's terror need not be extreme. While sex is at best revolting and at worse rather painful, it has to be endured, and has been by women since the beginning of time, and is compensated for by the monogamous home and by the children produced through it.
  It is useless, in most cases, for the bride to prevail upon the groom to forego the sexual initiation. While the ideal husband would be one who would approach his bride only at her request and only for the purpose of begetting offspring, such nobility and unselfishness cannot be expected from the average man.
  Most men, if not denied, would demand sex almost every day. The wise bride will permit a maximum of two brief sexual experiences weekly during the first months of marriage. As time goes by she should make every effort to reduce this frequency.
  Feigned illness, sleepiness, and headaches are among the wife's best friends in this matter. Arguments, nagging, scolding, and bickering also prove very effective, if used in the late evening about an hour before the husband would normally commence his seduction.
  Clever wives are ever on the alert for new and better methods of denying and discouraging the amorous overtures of the husband. A good wife should expect to have reduced sexual contacts to once a week by the end of the first year of marriage and to once a month by the end of the fifth year of marriage.
  By their tenth anniversary many wives have managed to complete their child bearing and have achieved the ultimate goal of terminating all sexual contacts with the husband. By this time she can depend upon his love for the children and social pressures to hold the husband in the home.
  Just as she should be ever alert to keep the quantity of sex as low as possible, the wise bride will pay equal attention to limiting the kind and degree of sexual contacts. Most men are by nature rather perverted, and if given half a chance, would engage in quite a variety of the most revolting practices. These practices include among others performing the normal act in abnormal positions; mouthing the female body; and offering their own vile bodies to be mouthed in turn.
  Nudity, talking about sex, reading stories about sex, viewing photographs and drawings depicting or suggesting sex are other obnoxious habits the male is likely to acquire if permitted.
  A wise bride will make it her goal never to allow her husband to see her unclothed body, and never allow him to display his unclothed body to her. Sex, when it cannot be prevented, should be practiced only in total darkness. Many women have found it useful to have thick cotton nightgowns for themselves and pajamas for their husbands. These should be donned in separate rooms. They need not be removed during the sex act. Thus, a minimum of flesh is exposed.
  Once the bride has donned her gown and turned off all the lights, she should lie quietly upon the bed and await her groom. When he comes groping into the room she should make no sound to guide him in her direction, lest he take this as a sign of encouragement. She should let him grope in the dark. There is always the hope that he will stumble and incur some slight injury which she can use as an excuse to deny him sexual access.
  When he finds her, the wife should lie as still as possible. Bodily motion on her part could be interpreted as sexual excitement by the optimistic husband.
  If he attempts to kiss her on the lips she should turn her head slightly so that the kiss falls harmlessly on her cheek instead. If he attempts to kiss her hand, she should make a fist. If he lifts her gown and attempts to kiss her anyplace else she should quickly pull the gown back in place, spring from the bed, and announce that nature calls her to the toilet. This will generally dampen his desire to kiss in the forbidden territory.
  If the husband attempts to seduce her with lascivious talk, the wise wife will suddenly remember some trivial non-sexual question to ask him. Once he answers she should keep the conversation going, no matter how frivolous it may seem at the time.
  Eventually, the husband will learn that if he insists on having sexual contact, he must get on with it without amorous embellishment. The wise wife will allow him to pull the gown up no farther than the waist, and only permit him to open the front of his pajamas to thus make connection.
  She will be absolutely silent or babble about her housework while he is huffing and puffing away. Above all, she will lie perfectly still and never under any circumstances grunt or groan while the act is in progress.
  As soon as the husband has completed the act the wise wife will start nagging him about various minor tasks she wishes him to perform on the morrow. Many men obtain a major portion of their sexual satisfaction from the peaceful exhaustion immediately after the act is over. Thus the wife must insure that there is no peace in this period for him to enjoy. Otherwise, he might be encouraged to soon try for more.
  One heartening factor for which the wife can be grateful is the fact that the husband's home, school, church, and social environment have been working together all through his life to instill in him a deep sense of guilt in regards to his sexual feelings, so that he comes to the marriage couch apologetically and filled with shame, already half cowed and subdued. The wise wife seizes upon this advantage and relentlessly pursues her goal first to limit, later to annihilate completely her husband's desire for sexual expression.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yuck. Yuck yuck. <i>Yuck.</i>
hudderAlthough the above is <b>not fiction</b> at all (see also the many references to such things in books or dramas set in christo pre-Victorian, Victorian and Edwardian UK say), it reads like the christian inversion of a romance novel - even a "black comedy". Though not personally a fan of the IMO insipid genre called "romance novels", am sure even bad romance novels would be infinitely superior to this vapid fest of cold lovelessness.
Christianism breeds abnormality. Avoid. Next they'll be preaching that going to the bathroom, eating, drinking, sleeping or taking a shower is evil. Oh wait. Showering was already famously discouraged by christianism as being "an invitation for evil" during the ideology's much-loved dark ages and medieval period and was religiously avoided even in UK's Tudor and France's near-Revolutionary times.
When christowest and their feminista subversionists in India accuse Hindus of "prudery", it's just one more christo lie.
Christo societies swing from super-promiscuity and criminality (as in christoised Roman society, and also seen in so many popes throughout the ages) all while strictly disapproving of sex, to christo Victorian prudishness with an underbelly seething with sexual business transactions and sexual crimes/murders, to modern christo-psecular shallow frivolity again. One constant throughout's been christian paedophilia.
The Zebras can stop braying.