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1. Hemant Karkare - one of the ATS policemen who was killed by whoever it was that got him shot - doesn't seem to have been the major baddie in the ATS. That AN Roy and the other hired goons were. This 'clean up' operation of ATS members seems rather to have been very convenient for christoKKKongress in getting rid of at least one ATS person (any more?) who wasn't quite playing along in their game:
Compare Hemant Karkare to AN Roy and his goondas:
<b>After the outrage comes the denial </b>http://offstumped.nationalinterest.in/2008/10/24/after-the-outrage-comes-the-denial/
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Pardon the formatting this comes from the blackberry. The times of india now carries a story released by the PTI late friday night, after 10pm to be precise quoting the <b>Joint Commissioner of Police, Anti-Terrorism Squad Hemant Karkare.
It is interesting to note the title of this story which says âMalegaon blast suspects had founded 2 right wing outfits;ATSâ is at odds with the text of the story, specifically the categorical clarifications of Mr. Karkare.</b>
âThere is no specific organisation to which the three belong though we have found pamphlets of the Jai Vande Mataram Jan Kalyan Samiti which Praggnya Singh founded in 2002â³, Joint Commissioner of Police (ATS) Hemant Karkare.
âThe Joint Commissioner denied they had found any links between the trio and other right wing groupsâ.
âKarkare declined to confirm if the trio was involved in the blast in Gujarat Modasaâ.
âHe denied there was any evidence to show that they were in involved in any previous blasts including Malegaon 2006â³.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->AN Roy:
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Nov 25 2008, 02:33 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 25 2008, 02:33 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>ATS suffers major setback</b>
MCOCA court refuses custody of 7 accused<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->
<b>Accused Ramesh Updhayaya alleged that State Director General of Police AN Roy</b>, when he met him on October 26, 2008, <b>had threatened that the investigators would beat him up, if he did not confess to his role in the Malegaon blast.</b>
Upadhyay also alleged that he had been tortured by Additional Commissioner of Police (ATS) Parambir Singh and Sukhwinder Singh while in custody. âParambir and Sukhwinder physically abused me and then threatened to parade my wife and daughter naked in the police station and get them raped by all the officers here,â Upadhyay alleged.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->[right][snapback]90564[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->- I'd ***really*** like to know where the other dead ATS police officers stood with respect to the fake "Hindu terror" stories and the ATS 'investigation' into Sadhvi and the others.
- And then I'd like to know whether they were indeed killed by the terrorists or shot by "friendly fire".
2. Intriguing how a small focussed event sents the whole nation into turmoil. (The islamic torching of the Sabarmati Express which IF highlighted as coming soon after the islamic Parliament attack was another case of Small Leverage-Big Pay Off.)
It's Strategic Asymmetric Warfare In Large Populous Country, but what I'd like to know is which groups - *other* than the islamic soldiers on the ground - are involved.
3.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Bolton is saying its Islamist work. Global agenda, purpose to discourage investment.
<b>Bolton also used "Hindu terrorist"</b> thanks to now dead ATS chief and impotent Indian Government.
It looks like very complex operation.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The bold bit is a very big gain they have made/created. IMO it shows that more than Indians were involved in creating the "Hindu terror" story. No evidence, yet look how fast even western people are using it (not just India's psecular motivated entities like christomedia). All Indian christomedia and the plants in Indian police system needed to do was float the concept of "Hindu terror" in order for everyone - including western countries - to now start using it as if it were a fact of life.
They've done well in laying the groundwork. But I really don't think the Indian christogovt is that clever to have done this all by themselves. Just like the reporting and condemnation of Godhra riots (incl. denial of Visa to Modi and bringing it up regularly even now as a HR issue for which "Hindu Nationalism" is to blame) was an organised local *and* international effort requiring more than people of Indian origin.
The international news recently wasn't keeping mum while the fictions of "Hindu Terrier" made the rounds: Reuters and other worldwide media outlets were regularly presenting the "Hindu terror" story to their international audience. I am sure this was in order to prepare/condition the western populace to the idea.
I really don't think this sort of major success in globally undermining Hindus, Hinduism and the legitimate Hindu suffering at the hands of islamic terrorism (and christian militancy) is the brainchild of any Indian in India. They're not that clever and certainly not that experienced in subversion.
It is amazing how the enemies of Hindus in India universally jumped on the bandwagon: christomedia blaring about Hindu Terror while carefully hiding the facts that there is no evidence, CPIM screaming about how Hindutva must be purged from the army, christogovt regularly issuing leaks to the media, international press relaying it to their ignorant and distant audience. Rather like the Minister of Railways getting a paid committee to 'investigate' Godhra, and the international media frequently bringing up "2000 muslims killed by Hindus in Godhra after Ayodhya", and all those anti-Indian orgs Ari Saja and rest of IF regularly mentions (FOSA, FOIL, FIACONA, connections to esteemed WitSSel's California textbook team) pouncing on the Godhra issue all at once.
Well, one will only know which entitites made an investment in this instance of islamic terrorism when we read <i>how</i> international news reports will be covering/spinning/reflecting on this event and its perpetrators <i>later on</i> (weeks, months, perhaps even a couple of years from now).
4. If christoterrorists/western people are among the victims of this recent terror strike, the christogovernment in India may end up doing something at last.
But it will probably be no more than pinning this on Hindus somehow, as others here remarked. Even if this was not the premeditated (?) intention of this terrorist attack, one must admit it would certainly pay serious dividends for them if they manage to make Hindus out to be a <i>global</i> threat, since now the christoKKKongress got internationals involved/dead.
(Or perhaps they may merely once again rule that Rajindra Kumar "Dara Singh" Pal was behind it all.)
5. Sandhya Jain was right in how the whole blatant motivated behaviour and ineptitude of the "Hindu Terror" investigation ops conducted by certain entities in ATS has undermined general ATS' credibility and how this too is but another win for christoKKKongress and islamania in India. Several gains: not only the namedrop/phrase coinage of "Hindu terror" but also the doubt they've created in ATS' general handling of real terrorism.
In future pseculars/christoislamaniacs/christogovt can say that ATS is torturing real islamaniac terrorists unfairly and without evidence by citing their woeful record in the "Hindoo Terror" farce. But the difference is that the christogovt is very pro-islami - regularly freeing islami terrorists, as happened in christoterrorist Samuel Reddy's AP recently, while being very anti-Hindu. That alone is enough to prove that the criminal elements in ATS that have dealt with the Hindus in this "Hindu Terror" myth is not the same as the police dealings with legitimate terror suspects and terrorists of the islamaniac persuasion.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Nov 11 2008, 10:28 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 11 2008, 10:28 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>UPAâs sinister shenanigans</b>
Sandhya Jain[right][snapback]89996[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Excerpt:<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In a move fraught with danger to India's sovereignty and territorial integrity, the Congress-dominated Central and Maharashtra governments have unleashed a sinister plot to undermine the institutions of the police and the defence forces. These two grids literally hold the nation together, particularly in these troubled times when internal and external threats savage the citizenry so remorselessly. By using the Maharashtra Anti Terror Squad (ATS) to target, arrest and malign certain retired and serving army officers, whose only crime is alleged or real links with reputed nationalist families like the Savarkars, the UPA is deliberately demoralising and communalizing the security agencies. At the risk of sounding offensive, I view this as the UPA's revenge against the Services on at least two counts. One was the firm refusal of both the police and the defence services to furnish the UPA government with religion-based data on serving personnel. The second was the protest by Police and the three Defence Chiefs against the recommendations of the Sixth Pay Commission. While the Police had to pipe down, the Defence Chiefs have proved difficult to tame.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1. Hemant Karkare - one of the ATS policemen who was killed by whoever it was that got him shot - doesn't seem to have been the major baddie in the ATS. That AN Roy and the other hired goons were. This 'clean up' operation of ATS members seems rather to have been very convenient for christoKKKongress in getting rid of at least one ATS person (any more?) who wasn't quite playing along in their game:
Compare Hemant Karkare to AN Roy and his goondas:
<b>After the outrage comes the denial </b>http://offstumped.nationalinterest.in/2008/10/24/after-the-outrage-comes-the-denial/
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Pardon the formatting this comes from the blackberry. The times of india now carries a story released by the PTI late friday night, after 10pm to be precise quoting the <b>Joint Commissioner of Police, Anti-Terrorism Squad Hemant Karkare.
It is interesting to note the title of this story which says âMalegaon blast suspects had founded 2 right wing outfits;ATSâ is at odds with the text of the story, specifically the categorical clarifications of Mr. Karkare.</b>
âThere is no specific organisation to which the three belong though we have found pamphlets of the Jai Vande Mataram Jan Kalyan Samiti which Praggnya Singh founded in 2002â³, Joint Commissioner of Police (ATS) Hemant Karkare.
âThe Joint Commissioner denied they had found any links between the trio and other right wing groupsâ.
âKarkare declined to confirm if the trio was involved in the blast in Gujarat Modasaâ.
âHe denied there was any evidence to show that they were in involved in any previous blasts including Malegaon 2006â³.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->AN Roy:
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Nov 25 2008, 02:33 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 25 2008, 02:33 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>ATS suffers major setback</b>
MCOCA court refuses custody of 7 accused<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->
<b>Accused Ramesh Updhayaya alleged that State Director General of Police AN Roy</b>, when he met him on October 26, 2008, <b>had threatened that the investigators would beat him up, if he did not confess to his role in the Malegaon blast.</b>
Upadhyay also alleged that he had been tortured by Additional Commissioner of Police (ATS) Parambir Singh and Sukhwinder Singh while in custody. âParambir and Sukhwinder physically abused me and then threatened to parade my wife and daughter naked in the police station and get them raped by all the officers here,â Upadhyay alleged.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->[right][snapback]90564[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->- I'd ***really*** like to know where the other dead ATS police officers stood with respect to the fake "Hindu terror" stories and the ATS 'investigation' into Sadhvi and the others.
- And then I'd like to know whether they were indeed killed by the terrorists or shot by "friendly fire".
2. Intriguing how a small focussed event sents the whole nation into turmoil. (The islamic torching of the Sabarmati Express which IF highlighted as coming soon after the islamic Parliament attack was another case of Small Leverage-Big Pay Off.)
It's Strategic Asymmetric Warfare In Large Populous Country, but what I'd like to know is which groups - *other* than the islamic soldiers on the ground - are involved.
3.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Bolton is saying its Islamist work. Global agenda, purpose to discourage investment.
<b>Bolton also used "Hindu terrorist"</b> thanks to now dead ATS chief and impotent Indian Government.
It looks like very complex operation.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The bold bit is a very big gain they have made/created. IMO it shows that more than Indians were involved in creating the "Hindu terror" story. No evidence, yet look how fast even western people are using it (not just India's psecular motivated entities like christomedia). All Indian christomedia and the plants in Indian police system needed to do was float the concept of "Hindu terror" in order for everyone - including western countries - to now start using it as if it were a fact of life.
They've done well in laying the groundwork. But I really don't think the Indian christogovt is that clever to have done this all by themselves. Just like the reporting and condemnation of Godhra riots (incl. denial of Visa to Modi and bringing it up regularly even now as a HR issue for which "Hindu Nationalism" is to blame) was an organised local *and* international effort requiring more than people of Indian origin.
The international news recently wasn't keeping mum while the fictions of "Hindu Terrier" made the rounds: Reuters and other worldwide media outlets were regularly presenting the "Hindu terror" story to their international audience. I am sure this was in order to prepare/condition the western populace to the idea.
I really don't think this sort of major success in globally undermining Hindus, Hinduism and the legitimate Hindu suffering at the hands of islamic terrorism (and christian militancy) is the brainchild of any Indian in India. They're not that clever and certainly not that experienced in subversion.
It is amazing how the enemies of Hindus in India universally jumped on the bandwagon: christomedia blaring about Hindu Terror while carefully hiding the facts that there is no evidence, CPIM screaming about how Hindutva must be purged from the army, christogovt regularly issuing leaks to the media, international press relaying it to their ignorant and distant audience. Rather like the Minister of Railways getting a paid committee to 'investigate' Godhra, and the international media frequently bringing up "2000 muslims killed by Hindus in Godhra after Ayodhya", and all those anti-Indian orgs Ari Saja and rest of IF regularly mentions (FOSA, FOIL, FIACONA, connections to esteemed WitSSel's California textbook team) pouncing on the Godhra issue all at once.
Well, one will only know which entitites made an investment in this instance of islamic terrorism when we read <i>how</i> international news reports will be covering/spinning/reflecting on this event and its perpetrators <i>later on</i> (weeks, months, perhaps even a couple of years from now).
4. If christoterrorists/western people are among the victims of this recent terror strike, the christogovernment in India may end up doing something at last.
But it will probably be no more than pinning this on Hindus somehow, as others here remarked. Even if this was not the premeditated (?) intention of this terrorist attack, one must admit it would certainly pay serious dividends for them if they manage to make Hindus out to be a <i>global</i> threat, since now the christoKKKongress got internationals involved/dead.
(Or perhaps they may merely once again rule that Rajindra Kumar "Dara Singh" Pal was behind it all.)
5. Sandhya Jain was right in how the whole blatant motivated behaviour and ineptitude of the "Hindu Terror" investigation ops conducted by certain entities in ATS has undermined general ATS' credibility and how this too is but another win for christoKKKongress and islamania in India. Several gains: not only the namedrop/phrase coinage of "Hindu terror" but also the doubt they've created in ATS' general handling of real terrorism.
In future pseculars/christoislamaniacs/christogovt can say that ATS is torturing real islamaniac terrorists unfairly and without evidence by citing their woeful record in the "Hindoo Terror" farce. But the difference is that the christogovt is very pro-islami - regularly freeing islami terrorists, as happened in christoterrorist Samuel Reddy's AP recently, while being very anti-Hindu. That alone is enough to prove that the criminal elements in ATS that have dealt with the Hindus in this "Hindu Terror" myth is not the same as the police dealings with legitimate terror suspects and terrorists of the islamaniac persuasion.
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Nov 11 2008, 10:28 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 11 2008, 10:28 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>UPAâs sinister shenanigans</b>
Sandhya Jain[right][snapback]89996[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Excerpt:<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->In a move fraught with danger to India's sovereignty and territorial integrity, the Congress-dominated Central and Maharashtra governments have unleashed a sinister plot to undermine the institutions of the police and the defence forces. These two grids literally hold the nation together, particularly in these troubled times when internal and external threats savage the citizenry so remorselessly. By using the Maharashtra Anti Terror Squad (ATS) to target, arrest and malign certain retired and serving army officers, whose only crime is alleged or real links with reputed nationalist families like the Savarkars, the UPA is deliberately demoralising and communalizing the security agencies. At the risk of sounding offensive, I view this as the UPA's revenge against the Services on at least two counts. One was the firm refusal of both the police and the defence services to furnish the UPA government with religion-based data on serving personnel. The second was the protest by Police and the three Defence Chiefs against the recommendations of the Sixth Pay Commission. While the Police had to pipe down, the Defence Chiefs have proved difficult to tame.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Death to traitors.