11-27-2008, 11:38 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Nov 27 2008, 12:59 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 27 2008, 12:59 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Nov 27 2008, 09:53 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bodhi @ Nov 27 2008, 09:53 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->This is either too naive, or too boneheaded. Aren't ATS teams across the states taught to wear bulletproof jackets when leading such counter operations? Same for two leading encounter specialists of Mumbai Police who are martyred. Same for the Delhi Police Inspector M C Sharma during Batala. Why do they not wear jackets??? Or is it the case of what yudhiShThira told the yakSha - that none thinks death was meant for oneself too!
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They were showing clips before these guys went for action, their behavior was unprofessional, looks like they were drunk, making fuss with helmet. Whole body language was arrogrance and lack of professionalism. No discipline, these guys were CM and Amar Singh stooge but terrorist were not very selective whether they were CM or Amar's paid khaki.
If you compare with US or British SWAT team, one can see complete difference.
even county level SWAT team are thousand times better and very disciplined.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Nov 27 2008, 01:14 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 27 2008, 01:14 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Indian Government failed to provide key spokeperson. Media is having field day. No control on message. PM is sleeping. Queen Sonia is eating scones and cloated cream. ATS guys turn out to be macho without machoness.
NSG came late, Army reached before hand. Head dead, rest of ATS collapsed. Complete failure of police work.
After 15 hours situation is same.
Complete failure of whole system. Lack of professionalism and after so many terrorist attack they are still unprepared clueless. Zero credibility.
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Mudy, whenever I argue with a pakora gassing indian that we have such problems with training, equipment and general professionalism, everyone always argues against it. Their standard response is, 'o no yaar, v r gud u no. v r vry saf nd v vil do yevriting yin yavar pavar 2 kil terorisht.'
It's not so easy to ignore the reality when they all behave contrary to the popular belief, is it? If they were as trained, equipped, well behaved and all these things they claimed to be, there should not have been a single uniformed personnel's death. Not one jawan, commando, or law enforcement officer's death. End of story.
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They were showing clips before these guys went for action, their behavior was unprofessional, looks like they were drunk, making fuss with helmet. Whole body language was arrogrance and lack of professionalism. No discipline, these guys were CM and Amar Singh stooge but terrorist were not very selective whether they were CM or Amar's paid khaki.
If you compare with US or British SWAT team, one can see complete difference.
even county level SWAT team are thousand times better and very disciplined.
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<!--QuoteBegin-Mudy+Nov 27 2008, 01:14 AM-->QUOTE(Mudy @ Nov 27 2008, 01:14 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Indian Government failed to provide key spokeperson. Media is having field day. No control on message. PM is sleeping. Queen Sonia is eating scones and cloated cream. ATS guys turn out to be macho without machoness.
NSG came late, Army reached before hand. Head dead, rest of ATS collapsed. Complete failure of police work.
After 15 hours situation is same.
Complete failure of whole system. Lack of professionalism and after so many terrorist attack they are still unprepared clueless. Zero credibility.
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Mudy, whenever I argue with a pakora gassing indian that we have such problems with training, equipment and general professionalism, everyone always argues against it. Their standard response is, 'o no yaar, v r gud u no. v r vry saf nd v vil do yevriting yin yavar pavar 2 kil terorisht.'
It's not so easy to ignore the reality when they all behave contrary to the popular belief, is it? If they were as trained, equipped, well behaved and all these things they claimed to be, there should not have been a single uniformed personnel's death. Not one jawan, commando, or law enforcement officer's death. End of story.