^ K.Ram's posts above.
1. <!--QuoteBegin-k.ram+Nov 28 2008, 12:55 AM-->QUOTE(k.ram @ Nov 28 2008, 12:55 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Yindoos and Yehudis did it
[right][snapback]90857[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2008/11/pse...-of-mumbai.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Psec accuses Hindus & Jews of Mumbai Jihad, Calls for Civil War</b>
What a poisonous snake this "Amaresh Misra" is. I had been unaware of this nut's existence until I read this seditious and inflammatory article on Jihad Watch. Does anyone know which "secular progressive academia" ghetto's bowels this traitor has emanated from? JNU ? Aligarh Muslim University ? Jamia Millia Islamia?
Unbelievably hostile hate-mongering against Hindus (and their "Jewish allies") even by venomous "SECULAR" standards. The brute is openly calling for CIVIL WAR. Apparently, hate speech against Hindus is just fine with the Indian establishment. Even open incitement to genocide against Hindus (and their "Jewish accomplices") is acceptable.
Where are the ever vigilant Kaangress/UPA "secular" thought police thugs now? Where are the advocates of "restraint", "non-violence" and "people's democracy"?
Their 5 year pogrom against Hindu nationalists has destroyed all deterrents against Jihadi terror and emboldened all elements of the variegated seditious spectrum to rear their ugly heads. And the Nehruvian Stalinist totalitarian thugs may attempt to use the storm of their own making to indefinitely suspend democracy to perpetuate their fascist regime. I'm afraid things are looking bleak for nationalists and the nation.
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Dinesh PC said...
  What are his credentials? He's written this for a "Muslim Brotherhood" website. No one except the peaceful religionists will believe the sh1t on that site.
  11/27/2008 12:31 PM
Harish said...
  This turdburglar <b>came out with a book about 1857 few months back praising the jihadis involved in that and trying to use that as some "proof" for eternal hindu-muslim brotherhood, google and u will find it.</b>
  11/27/2008 7:01 PM
One said...
<b>Â Â Mossad and "Hindu terrorists"? Really? Is that why a Turkish couple was let off because they were Muslims?</b>Â Â
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Turkish...how/3766609.cms
  11/27/2008 10:30 PM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>Christians/cretins long been preparing their apologetics and deflection of blame onto Hindus:</b>
2. Suzanna Margaret "Hooker Prize" Roy tells Indians that they Deserved It, wants more violent christoislamaniac outbreaks and makes ready for her next acceptance speech:
via http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2008/11/suz...attacks-on.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Friday, November 28, 2008
<b>suzanne arundhati lauds attacks on the indian state</b>
nov 28th, 2008
can we send this person to pakistan along with teesta, shabana, angana, akhila, biju, vijay, ravisankar, vinay, et al?
by the way, both teesta and shabana live in mumbai, and have been hiding out behind the hindu policemen and soldiers who have taken the bullet for them, i take it? not a peep from them about the rights of the terrorists (sorry, militants)? why aren't they insisting that the terrorists be brought mutton biriyani -- the poor dears must be starving now?
www.pej.org/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=7508&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->From that link:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Regarding the events in India: The only question we should be asking ourselves, by Arundhati Roy </b>
PEJ News - chycho - In the following short video, Arundhati Roy, âan Indian writer and activist who won the Booker Prize in 1997 for her novel, The God of Small Things, and in 2002, the Lannan Cultural Freedom Prize,â explains what occupies her thoughts during these unsettling times:
Video: Arundhati Roy (2:01)
<b>âI think, the thing that Iâm thinking the most about, the question that occupies me a lot these days is, what kind, what form of resistance is effective, and acceptable to us? </b>
âBecause, I see all over and all around us, that obviously resistance, whether itâs in Palestine, or Iraq, or Kashmir, or in the north eastern states of India, or now all over India, there is a kind of armed struggle rising up, being put down viciously by the State, and at the same time non-violent resistance movements are given a lot of air time, a lot of publicity, a lot of space, but itâs also because it makes the State comfortable, it makes the comfortable comfortable.
âSo between non-violent resistance and armed struggle, where do we go? What is effective? What is the right thing to do, or do we need a bio-diversity of resistance? Do we need all kinds of resistance? <b>And do we need to stop this search for being pristine? Do we need to be able to accept that whatever form we choose and all the various ways, in which we, decide to resist will not be pure, and we accept that impurity</b> with some kind of generosity?
(Translation: like the islamoterrorist - see above - who conspiracy theoried that Hindu Terriers and Jews were behind these islamoterrorist attacks on India and called for civil war, Margaret Dhoti Roy is also arguing for (public acceptance of the idea of) violent civil war by islamoterrorists in India. She may yet get her wish. But then the outcome will be far against her hopes.)
<b>âSo really the strategies of resistance and what they ought to be is what occupies my time a lot these days.â</b>
Suzanna Arundhati Roy<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
3. Western christoterrorists also ready and prepared with the usual apologetics AND now set to blame the fantasy tales of "Hindu terrorism" which they <i>no doubt</i> helped manufacture (last time their missionary man on the ground - Kenneth Haywood - who was caught in aiding the SIMI "Indian Mujahideen" attacks, fled out of fear of confessing all in the narc tests):
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2008/11/con...tionalises.html
(The word convict below refers to Australian. She's not technically a convict.)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Convict she "professor" rationalises Jihadi attacks</b>
<b>Several western "experts" have gone to town, predictably belabouring the silly notion that the identity of the Mumbai terrorist attackers should not be presumed Islamist.</b>
(Begs the question: what fictions are the christoterrorists in the west planning to feed to their audience in the future? Who do they plan to project as having committed the attacks?)
But, a convict woman "professor" MARIKA VICZIANY (www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2008/s2431842.htm) states in a discussion on the convict broadcasting corporation that the <b>Jihadi attacks were retribution for Hindu "atrocities" on those poor Mussulmans...</b>
I don't understand the fascination with Mohammedan buggers that some Caucasian females apparently entertain, but sadly these colonial era fantasies of a few loonies provide the foundation for fantastic theories of Hindu "oppression" and "genocide" of Muslims, motivating Islamist retribution against Westerners..
Posted by karyakarta92 at 11/27/2008 04:07:00 PM
1 comments:
<b>One said...</b>
And here's another:
www.cnn.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1862650,00.html?cnn=yes
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->That last link to CNN goes directly to Time - criminals recommending each other: after all, CNN and Time are AmeriKKKan media outlets that frequently show Kashmir detached/independent from India. Just what the christo missionary org Operation World did in the early 90s itself.
Also interesting is how it has the usual christian doublespeak title. This one purports to be on:
<b>Behind the Mumbai Massacre: India's Muslims in Crisis</b>
And the article starts with the same christian apologetics for islam we have heard parroted by our own christogovt (and subsequently implemented for their western masters via Sachar committee reports etcetera):
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8...650,00.html?cnn
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The disembodied voice was chilling in its rage. A gunman, holed up in Mumbai's Oberoi Trident hotel where some 40 people had been taken hostage, told an Indian news channel that the attacks were revenge for the persecution of Muslims in India. "We love this as our country but when our mothers and sisters were being killed, where was everybody?" he asked via telephone. No answer came. But then he probably wasn't expecting one.
<b>Terror Strikes in Mumbai</b>
The roots of Muslim rage run deep in India, nourished by a long-held sense of injustice over what many Indian Muslims believe is institutionalized discrimination against the country's largest minority group. The disparities between Muslims, which make up 13.4% of the population, and India's Hindu population, which hovers around 80%, are striking. There are exceptions, of course, but generally speaking Muslim Indians have shorter life spans, worse health, lower literacy levels, and lower-paying jobs. Add to that toxic brew the lingering resentment over 2002's anti-Muslim riots in the state of Gujarat. The riots, instigated by Hindu nationalists, killed some 2000 people, most of them Muslim. To this day, few of the perpetrators have been convicted. See pictures of the terrorist shootings in Mumbai.
<b>The Beginning of the Problem</b>
On the afternoon of March 29, 1857, Mangal Pandey,
[...]
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The rest of the very christian vomit is at the link. Next time the Taliban attack US' Two Towers (Isengard and Minas Morgul), it seems they expect Hindus to reciprocate with similar apologetics for islam?
And the first link www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2008/s2431842.htm contains:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->PROFESSOR MARIKA VICZIANY, <b>SOUTH ASIAN STUDIES,</b> MONASH UNIVERSITY: The targeting of westerners... I see it as an attempt to notch up the stakes.
Muslims feel that their demands for justice have been ignored.
(What justice? Justice for their Timurs, Ghoris, Aurangzebs, Tipu Sultans, Yahya Khans having genocided us? Add to that the Dawoods, Mohammed Afzals. Islamis want revenge on Hindus for having genocided Hindus?)
[...]
PROFESSOR MARIKA VICZIANY: Al-Qaeda could, of course, be involved. I think we should think of a number of possible scenarios.
But the Hindu Muslim situation in Bombay and Western India is so bad that you don't need Al-Qaeda to stir trouble.
<b>The feeling is that these bombings are about revenge and retribution. Muslims in Western India feel that they have been under attack, and they attack is coming from Hindu fundamentalists and Hindu extremists.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->She's arguing how after muslims torched Gujarati Hindus in the Sabarmati now the muslims want revenge for the subsequent Godhra riots.
Intriguing how her arguments are the same as that of Indian cryptos and communists - who ignore each islamic event instigating it all and (are paid to) focus only on the events that directly followed, and even then - when the islamaniacs turn out to be the murderers - they will say that the faithful merely/naturally "retaliated" for burning the Hindus in the train. Elst had an article about the general style of psecular Indian/western apologetics for islamania, though the red 'Mira Kamdar' here started off as a partial exception to this, she then rebounds back to using the same christocommunist reasoning in order to push the same points:
http://koenraadelst.voi.org/articles/fas...amdar.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Most Hindutva sources, searchable on the internet but otherwise quite unreported in the Western media, have emphasized that most victims were women and children , implying a big question-mark over the description of the Godhra victims as militants . Because of this inconvenient implication, most authors propagating the secularist viewpoint before ignorant Western audiences have simply left out the detail that the victims were mostly women and children , so as to make the allegation of militancy more credible, along with the justifying suggestion that those fanatics had it coming to them. Well, it is to Ms. Kamdar s credit that she didn t play this game of deception. But it weakens her plea against Hindutva, for it amounts to an admission that the whole Gujarat carnage started with innocent Hindus being victimized. And in the blame game, it remains crucial which side is in a position to say: You started it!
Just how crucial, is illustrated by Mira Kamdar s attempt, later on, to depict the Muslim participation in the subsequent riots as retaliatory , a characterization withheld from the Hindu retaliation: Once the violence got underway, there were retaliatory attacks by Muslims on Hindus. (emphasis added) It all depends at what moment you start counting. <b>That is why many secularist references to the Gujarat riots now simply leave the initial Godhra episode unmentioned, just as most secularist accounts of the Mumbai riots of January 1993 pass over the initial Muslim attacks in silence.</b> This is like letting World War II start with the Allied aggression in Normandy in 1944, opposed by German defenders of Europe .<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->How 'curious' that all these western tutors of Indian christocommuniterrorists are always saying the Exact Same Things. And At Specifically The Times When India Is Attacked By Islamania. What coincidence...
That is because these methods on How To Deal with various situations they will defend/foster/sponsor/create in India are agreed upon by these christoterrorist parties *beforehand* - that is, before the events actually take place.
They already knew how to respond to the (at that time still to come) Hindu Terror drama, since I am sure that the christos both within India and without scripted the "Hindu Terror" fiction.
They need this new twist to further their meddling and destabilizing activities in India.
Just like the international condemnatory committee now need to show the world and particularly the Indians that they cannot govern themselves and cannot defend themselves from terrorism but require pacts/closer cooperation with christoterrorist west (that India is still the White Man's Burden, in spite of it being the west that has helped this inept puppet government into power in India and helped to keep them there). They need this presentation of ineptitude to be repeated back in India too. Hence their christomedia sockpuppets in India are now eagerly falling over themselves to present all our forces as utterly incapable, either through the system hardly punishing a single terrorist, or by showing footage of constantly baffled forces unable to stop the terror, or by printing direct words to this effect (and I think that this is also why it took so long for odes to Mumbai's Spirit to make it through this time):
4. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2008/11/toi...omes-clean.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Thursday, November 27, 2008
<b>TOI-let Paper Comes Clean</b>
The TOI-let paper is frankly admitting the stain that's plainly in sight.
A rare moment of confession from them.
How quickly some people find God when they're staring death in the face.
As an atheist, I'm laughing at their sudden piety.
The new toilet flushes 5 times a day.
Posted by san at 11/27/2008 08:52:00 PM 0 comments
Labels: terrorism <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Above refers to
timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Cops_cant_wait_for_special_forces/articleshow/3767288.cms
The article by the christomedia TOI (which of course happily advertises for their World Vision and other christian orgs, but probably thinks it is too 'communal' to show adverts for Hindu aid organisations) is bookended by the paras:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Cops can't wait for special forces
28 Nov 2008, 0453 hrs IST, Ajai Sahni</b>
<b>We do not have either the capability or the organization to address terrorism in India.</b> The police has neither the manpower, nor the equipment,
neither the resources nor the training to handle such situations. The effort to create special forces has resulted in units such as the National Security Guard, located at Manesar outside Delhi. But this is structurally flawed. Any counter-terrorism force that takes several hours to reach the site of attack has little utility. Terrorists have to be neutralized within the first few minutes of an attack.
[...]
Several high-sounding political declarations have been made since the beginning of this attack. But that is what happens after each major attack. What matters is what will happen after a few days. Probably nothing. What happened after every attack in Delhi and after the Mumbai strikes in 1993 and 2006? The first days see a lot of big talk and then thereâs nothing.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->While the last para is true (but the first line is <i>not</i>: Israel is able to handle itself respectably after attacks, why not India), who is in charge in India? *Christo*govt. Who is letting terrorists off the hook even as they now devote all their time to going after non-existent "Hindu terror"? *Christo*govt. Who will not bring justice to victims of terrorist attacks but will reprimand police for "fake" encounters of islamiterrorists? *Christo*govt.
Not that BJP is all that useful in fighting christoislamism, but christogovt will not do anything about christoislamism other than <i>actively promote it</i> (with the help of US govt's helpful Kenneth Haywoods). ChristoKKKongress' facilitating islamoterrorism and their willingness to manufacture the idea of Hindu terror is precisely why the party is also handpicked by US and co. to become The Crown Prince And Retinue of India.
A real government that worked for Indian interests instead of foreign ones, would ensure better law-and-order, better anti-terrorism, better morale in defence forces, would not try to destroy police and army, would not give people any reason to foster ideas on ineptitude of law and order, would not be giving a free pass to terrorists while trying to float the concept of non-existent terror by nabbing and torturing innocent people and then leaking false reports to the news, would not be inviting over islamoterror by doing nothing for the umpteenth time, would not be brooking christian terrorism and missionary activity. But then, what was I thinking, the christoKKKongress government does not work for Indian interests.
5. From K.Ram's posts above:
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/arrested-mumbai-gunmen-of-british-descent-1039452.html
<b>Arrested Mumbai gunmen 'of British descent'</b>
What, "All-Male West" wants to contrast itself to "inept India" by nabbing terrorists more quickly? "Look how helpful they are"?
Why the serenade? Desperate times call for desperate measures and they want to get Hostile India's help in the war on terror going on in the west?
Now, why am I so suspicious. There's no need. I'm sure they are doing this from the kindness of their hearts. Right after they regularly print that the Godhra train victims burnt themselves and got what they deserved for "babri". Right after they regularly argue for Kashmir "independently" going to Pakistan.
1. <!--QuoteBegin-k.ram+Nov 28 2008, 12:55 AM-->QUOTE(k.ram @ Nov 28 2008, 12:55 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Yindoos and Yehudis did it
[right][snapback]90857[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2008/11/pse...-of-mumbai.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Psec accuses Hindus & Jews of Mumbai Jihad, Calls for Civil War</b>
What a poisonous snake this "Amaresh Misra" is. I had been unaware of this nut's existence until I read this seditious and inflammatory article on Jihad Watch. Does anyone know which "secular progressive academia" ghetto's bowels this traitor has emanated from? JNU ? Aligarh Muslim University ? Jamia Millia Islamia?
Unbelievably hostile hate-mongering against Hindus (and their "Jewish allies") even by venomous "SECULAR" standards. The brute is openly calling for CIVIL WAR. Apparently, hate speech against Hindus is just fine with the Indian establishment. Even open incitement to genocide against Hindus (and their "Jewish accomplices") is acceptable.
Where are the ever vigilant Kaangress/UPA "secular" thought police thugs now? Where are the advocates of "restraint", "non-violence" and "people's democracy"?
Their 5 year pogrom against Hindu nationalists has destroyed all deterrents against Jihadi terror and emboldened all elements of the variegated seditious spectrum to rear their ugly heads. And the Nehruvian Stalinist totalitarian thugs may attempt to use the storm of their own making to indefinitely suspend democracy to perpetuate their fascist regime. I'm afraid things are looking bleak for nationalists and the nation.
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Dinesh PC said...
  What are his credentials? He's written this for a "Muslim Brotherhood" website. No one except the peaceful religionists will believe the sh1t on that site.
  11/27/2008 12:31 PM
Harish said...
  This turdburglar <b>came out with a book about 1857 few months back praising the jihadis involved in that and trying to use that as some "proof" for eternal hindu-muslim brotherhood, google and u will find it.</b>
  11/27/2008 7:01 PM
One said...
<b>Â Â Mossad and "Hindu terrorists"? Really? Is that why a Turkish couple was let off because they were Muslims?</b>Â Â
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Turkish...how/3766609.cms
  11/27/2008 10:30 PM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<b>Christians/cretins long been preparing their apologetics and deflection of blame onto Hindus:</b>
2. Suzanna Margaret "Hooker Prize" Roy tells Indians that they Deserved It, wants more violent christoislamaniac outbreaks and makes ready for her next acceptance speech:
via http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2008/11/suz...attacks-on.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Friday, November 28, 2008
<b>suzanne arundhati lauds attacks on the indian state</b>
nov 28th, 2008
can we send this person to pakistan along with teesta, shabana, angana, akhila, biju, vijay, ravisankar, vinay, et al?
by the way, both teesta and shabana live in mumbai, and have been hiding out behind the hindu policemen and soldiers who have taken the bullet for them, i take it? not a peep from them about the rights of the terrorists (sorry, militants)? why aren't they insisting that the terrorists be brought mutton biriyani -- the poor dears must be starving now?
www.pej.org/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=7508&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->From that link:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Regarding the events in India: The only question we should be asking ourselves, by Arundhati Roy </b>
PEJ News - chycho - In the following short video, Arundhati Roy, âan Indian writer and activist who won the Booker Prize in 1997 for her novel, The God of Small Things, and in 2002, the Lannan Cultural Freedom Prize,â explains what occupies her thoughts during these unsettling times:
Video: Arundhati Roy (2:01)
<b>âI think, the thing that Iâm thinking the most about, the question that occupies me a lot these days is, what kind, what form of resistance is effective, and acceptable to us? </b>
âBecause, I see all over and all around us, that obviously resistance, whether itâs in Palestine, or Iraq, or Kashmir, or in the north eastern states of India, or now all over India, there is a kind of armed struggle rising up, being put down viciously by the State, and at the same time non-violent resistance movements are given a lot of air time, a lot of publicity, a lot of space, but itâs also because it makes the State comfortable, it makes the comfortable comfortable.
âSo between non-violent resistance and armed struggle, where do we go? What is effective? What is the right thing to do, or do we need a bio-diversity of resistance? Do we need all kinds of resistance? <b>And do we need to stop this search for being pristine? Do we need to be able to accept that whatever form we choose and all the various ways, in which we, decide to resist will not be pure, and we accept that impurity</b> with some kind of generosity?
(Translation: like the islamoterrorist - see above - who conspiracy theoried that Hindu Terriers and Jews were behind these islamoterrorist attacks on India and called for civil war, Margaret Dhoti Roy is also arguing for (public acceptance of the idea of) violent civil war by islamoterrorists in India. She may yet get her wish. But then the outcome will be far against her hopes.)
<b>âSo really the strategies of resistance and what they ought to be is what occupies my time a lot these days.â</b>
Suzanna Arundhati Roy<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
3. Western christoterrorists also ready and prepared with the usual apologetics AND now set to blame the fantasy tales of "Hindu terrorism" which they <i>no doubt</i> helped manufacture (last time their missionary man on the ground - Kenneth Haywood - who was caught in aiding the SIMI "Indian Mujahideen" attacks, fled out of fear of confessing all in the narc tests):
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2008/11/con...tionalises.html
(The word convict below refers to Australian. She's not technically a convict.)
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Convict she "professor" rationalises Jihadi attacks</b>
<b>Several western "experts" have gone to town, predictably belabouring the silly notion that the identity of the Mumbai terrorist attackers should not be presumed Islamist.</b>
(Begs the question: what fictions are the christoterrorists in the west planning to feed to their audience in the future? Who do they plan to project as having committed the attacks?)
But, a convict woman "professor" MARIKA VICZIANY (www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2008/s2431842.htm) states in a discussion on the convict broadcasting corporation that the <b>Jihadi attacks were retribution for Hindu "atrocities" on those poor Mussulmans...</b>
I don't understand the fascination with Mohammedan buggers that some Caucasian females apparently entertain, but sadly these colonial era fantasies of a few loonies provide the foundation for fantastic theories of Hindu "oppression" and "genocide" of Muslims, motivating Islamist retribution against Westerners..
Posted by karyakarta92 at 11/27/2008 04:07:00 PM
1 comments:
<b>One said...</b>
And here's another:
www.cnn.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1862650,00.html?cnn=yes
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->That last link to CNN goes directly to Time - criminals recommending each other: after all, CNN and Time are AmeriKKKan media outlets that frequently show Kashmir detached/independent from India. Just what the christo missionary org Operation World did in the early 90s itself.
Also interesting is how it has the usual christian doublespeak title. This one purports to be on:
<b>Behind the Mumbai Massacre: India's Muslims in Crisis</b>
And the article starts with the same christian apologetics for islam we have heard parroted by our own christogovt (and subsequently implemented for their western masters via Sachar committee reports etcetera):
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8...650,00.html?cnn
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The disembodied voice was chilling in its rage. A gunman, holed up in Mumbai's Oberoi Trident hotel where some 40 people had been taken hostage, told an Indian news channel that the attacks were revenge for the persecution of Muslims in India. "We love this as our country but when our mothers and sisters were being killed, where was everybody?" he asked via telephone. No answer came. But then he probably wasn't expecting one.
<b>Terror Strikes in Mumbai</b>
The roots of Muslim rage run deep in India, nourished by a long-held sense of injustice over what many Indian Muslims believe is institutionalized discrimination against the country's largest minority group. The disparities between Muslims, which make up 13.4% of the population, and India's Hindu population, which hovers around 80%, are striking. There are exceptions, of course, but generally speaking Muslim Indians have shorter life spans, worse health, lower literacy levels, and lower-paying jobs. Add to that toxic brew the lingering resentment over 2002's anti-Muslim riots in the state of Gujarat. The riots, instigated by Hindu nationalists, killed some 2000 people, most of them Muslim. To this day, few of the perpetrators have been convicted. See pictures of the terrorist shootings in Mumbai.
<b>The Beginning of the Problem</b>
On the afternoon of March 29, 1857, Mangal Pandey,
[...]
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The rest of the very christian vomit is at the link. Next time the Taliban attack US' Two Towers (Isengard and Minas Morgul), it seems they expect Hindus to reciprocate with similar apologetics for islam?
And the first link www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2008/s2431842.htm contains:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->PROFESSOR MARIKA VICZIANY, <b>SOUTH ASIAN STUDIES,</b> MONASH UNIVERSITY: The targeting of westerners... I see it as an attempt to notch up the stakes.
Muslims feel that their demands for justice have been ignored.
(What justice? Justice for their Timurs, Ghoris, Aurangzebs, Tipu Sultans, Yahya Khans having genocided us? Add to that the Dawoods, Mohammed Afzals. Islamis want revenge on Hindus for having genocided Hindus?)
[...]
PROFESSOR MARIKA VICZIANY: Al-Qaeda could, of course, be involved. I think we should think of a number of possible scenarios.
But the Hindu Muslim situation in Bombay and Western India is so bad that you don't need Al-Qaeda to stir trouble.
<b>The feeling is that these bombings are about revenge and retribution. Muslims in Western India feel that they have been under attack, and they attack is coming from Hindu fundamentalists and Hindu extremists.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->She's arguing how after muslims torched Gujarati Hindus in the Sabarmati now the muslims want revenge for the subsequent Godhra riots.
Intriguing how her arguments are the same as that of Indian cryptos and communists - who ignore each islamic event instigating it all and (are paid to) focus only on the events that directly followed, and even then - when the islamaniacs turn out to be the murderers - they will say that the faithful merely/naturally "retaliated" for burning the Hindus in the train. Elst had an article about the general style of psecular Indian/western apologetics for islamania, though the red 'Mira Kamdar' here started off as a partial exception to this, she then rebounds back to using the same christocommunist reasoning in order to push the same points:
http://koenraadelst.voi.org/articles/fas...amdar.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Most Hindutva sources, searchable on the internet but otherwise quite unreported in the Western media, have emphasized that most victims were women and children , implying a big question-mark over the description of the Godhra victims as militants . Because of this inconvenient implication, most authors propagating the secularist viewpoint before ignorant Western audiences have simply left out the detail that the victims were mostly women and children , so as to make the allegation of militancy more credible, along with the justifying suggestion that those fanatics had it coming to them. Well, it is to Ms. Kamdar s credit that she didn t play this game of deception. But it weakens her plea against Hindutva, for it amounts to an admission that the whole Gujarat carnage started with innocent Hindus being victimized. And in the blame game, it remains crucial which side is in a position to say: You started it!
Just how crucial, is illustrated by Mira Kamdar s attempt, later on, to depict the Muslim participation in the subsequent riots as retaliatory , a characterization withheld from the Hindu retaliation: Once the violence got underway, there were retaliatory attacks by Muslims on Hindus. (emphasis added) It all depends at what moment you start counting. <b>That is why many secularist references to the Gujarat riots now simply leave the initial Godhra episode unmentioned, just as most secularist accounts of the Mumbai riots of January 1993 pass over the initial Muslim attacks in silence.</b> This is like letting World War II start with the Allied aggression in Normandy in 1944, opposed by German defenders of Europe .<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->How 'curious' that all these western tutors of Indian christocommuniterrorists are always saying the Exact Same Things. And At Specifically The Times When India Is Attacked By Islamania. What coincidence...
That is because these methods on How To Deal with various situations they will defend/foster/sponsor/create in India are agreed upon by these christoterrorist parties *beforehand* - that is, before the events actually take place.
They already knew how to respond to the (at that time still to come) Hindu Terror drama, since I am sure that the christos both within India and without scripted the "Hindu Terror" fiction.
They need this new twist to further their meddling and destabilizing activities in India.
Just like the international condemnatory committee now need to show the world and particularly the Indians that they cannot govern themselves and cannot defend themselves from terrorism but require pacts/closer cooperation with christoterrorist west (that India is still the White Man's Burden, in spite of it being the west that has helped this inept puppet government into power in India and helped to keep them there). They need this presentation of ineptitude to be repeated back in India too. Hence their christomedia sockpuppets in India are now eagerly falling over themselves to present all our forces as utterly incapable, either through the system hardly punishing a single terrorist, or by showing footage of constantly baffled forces unable to stop the terror, or by printing direct words to this effect (and I think that this is also why it took so long for odes to Mumbai's Spirit to make it through this time):
4. http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2008/11/toi...omes-clean.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Thursday, November 27, 2008
<b>TOI-let Paper Comes Clean</b>
The TOI-let paper is frankly admitting the stain that's plainly in sight.
A rare moment of confession from them.
How quickly some people find God when they're staring death in the face.
As an atheist, I'm laughing at their sudden piety.
The new toilet flushes 5 times a day.
Posted by san at 11/27/2008 08:52:00 PM 0 comments
Labels: terrorism <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Above refers to
timesofindia.indiatimes.com/India/Cops_cant_wait_for_special_forces/articleshow/3767288.cms
The article by the christomedia TOI (which of course happily advertises for their World Vision and other christian orgs, but probably thinks it is too 'communal' to show adverts for Hindu aid organisations) is bookended by the paras:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Cops can't wait for special forces
28 Nov 2008, 0453 hrs IST, Ajai Sahni</b>
<b>We do not have either the capability or the organization to address terrorism in India.</b> The police has neither the manpower, nor the equipment,
neither the resources nor the training to handle such situations. The effort to create special forces has resulted in units such as the National Security Guard, located at Manesar outside Delhi. But this is structurally flawed. Any counter-terrorism force that takes several hours to reach the site of attack has little utility. Terrorists have to be neutralized within the first few minutes of an attack.
[...]
Several high-sounding political declarations have been made since the beginning of this attack. But that is what happens after each major attack. What matters is what will happen after a few days. Probably nothing. What happened after every attack in Delhi and after the Mumbai strikes in 1993 and 2006? The first days see a lot of big talk and then thereâs nothing.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->While the last para is true (but the first line is <i>not</i>: Israel is able to handle itself respectably after attacks, why not India), who is in charge in India? *Christo*govt. Who is letting terrorists off the hook even as they now devote all their time to going after non-existent "Hindu terror"? *Christo*govt. Who will not bring justice to victims of terrorist attacks but will reprimand police for "fake" encounters of islamiterrorists? *Christo*govt.
Not that BJP is all that useful in fighting christoislamism, but christogovt will not do anything about christoislamism other than <i>actively promote it</i> (with the help of US govt's helpful Kenneth Haywoods). ChristoKKKongress' facilitating islamoterrorism and their willingness to manufacture the idea of Hindu terror is precisely why the party is also handpicked by US and co. to become The Crown Prince And Retinue of India.
A real government that worked for Indian interests instead of foreign ones, would ensure better law-and-order, better anti-terrorism, better morale in defence forces, would not try to destroy police and army, would not give people any reason to foster ideas on ineptitude of law and order, would not be giving a free pass to terrorists while trying to float the concept of non-existent terror by nabbing and torturing innocent people and then leaking false reports to the news, would not be inviting over islamoterror by doing nothing for the umpteenth time, would not be brooking christian terrorism and missionary activity. But then, what was I thinking, the christoKKKongress government does not work for Indian interests.
5. From K.Ram's posts above:
www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/arrested-mumbai-gunmen-of-british-descent-1039452.html
<b>Arrested Mumbai gunmen 'of British descent'</b>
What, "All-Male West" wants to contrast itself to "inept India" by nabbing terrorists more quickly? "Look how helpful they are"?
Why the serenade? Desperate times call for desperate measures and they want to get Hostile India's help in the war on terror going on in the west?
Now, why am I so suspicious. There's no need. I'm sure they are doing this from the kindness of their hearts. Right after they regularly print that the Godhra train victims burnt themselves and got what they deserved for "babri". Right after they regularly argue for Kashmir "independently" going to Pakistan.