<!--QuoteBegin-Viren+Jan 15 2009, 04:31 PM-->QUOTE(Viren @ Jan 15 2009, 04:31 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Husky: Arundhati's mom's Christian and dad Hindu (or vice versa), know this because her mom went to supreme court challenging Christian/Hindu inheritance laws. Remember reading this somewhere, can be googled.
Guys, keep this thread free of race/religious inter marriage stuff. Focus on activities and associations that are against national interest.
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<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Arundhati's dad is a Bengali 'Hindu', her mum is a Kerala christian (Kerala christian tends to usually mean: of the syrian-turned-catholic church). Arundhati is a christian, not some mythical half-Hindu half-christian <- a kind of math only Hindus do.
I have no intention of talking about any mythical race.
And no religious inter-marriage was mentioned. N.Ram is not a Hindu. He is possibly - in all likelihood, I'd say - a christian.
These things *matter*. Prachanda being a christian matters. The wife of Sri Lanka's President Rajapakse being a christian matters. So too Sonia and her kids. N.Ram attending an <i>exclusive</i> Catholic Bishop's conference matters. The Angelsk media in India being christian-owned matters.
One can predict with scary certainty that India will not survive unless it entirely eradicates the meme of christoislamism from the country. Add to that communism (but it is more likely to wither without the watering from christoislamism).
Rome, even after identifying the real problem, drowned (it was too late, and christoism was on Total War path as is the wont of christoislamism). Indians are blinded by centuries of christian PR that legitimises terrorisms as supposedly 'valid' religions. These are NOT valid religions. And it is the right of every heathen to say so, to say that they are terrorisms concealed under religious garb, and that the world must be freed from them. There ought not be the slightest allowance for christianism, nor for islamism.
Neither of christoislamism will ever allow for a Hindu nation - a nation where the majority is unoppressed Hindus. A Hindu nationalism that seeks to live alongside christoislamism will find itself murdered. That's a one-way deal. Actually, a death warrant.
On why the christianism and christianist leanings of various orgs and individuals in India matters and one reason for why it's important to identify the religious affiliation of those entities:
Am going to paste a bit from the Rajeev Srinivasan's interview with the lovely Ishwar Sharan, but need a bit of an intro first. Was going to post all of the following as part II of something else, but that may have to wait and I'm not sure whether part I can go in the thread where I had started writing it...
<b>ADDED:</b> PART I
From American Atheists via http://freetruth.50webs.org/C1.htm -
Opus Dei was a gloriously catholic hence gore-iously fascist anti-semitic group:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Â Â Some of the sainthood choices, though, are prompting controversy.
  The theocratic dictator and 15th century Girolamo Savonarola was approved last month.
  John Paul also attracted controversy early in his pontificate when he beatified Josemaria Escriva de Balaguer, the founder of the Opus Dei group who was a virulent anti-Semite and fascist sympathizer.
From: Pope running "Saint factory"? John Paul beatifies monk accused of mental illness, fraud, philandering
http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/vatican4.htm<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJu...odAmericans.pdf
<b>Good Americans by John Judge, 1983</b>
A document about the German Nazis, the earlier oryanists, taken by the US after world war II (and who were soon after happily working in the CIA and other official US depts).
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Pope John Paul II</b> -- Worked at Auschwitz in a rubber plant run Nazi financier Hermann Abs for Solvay Drugs of I.G. Farben.[ 87] Farben, which also employed Fritz Kraemer, has 750 subsidiaries worldwide, including U.S. firms.[88] In the wake of the recent Vatican Bank scandals, Pope John Paul I I appointed a four-man committee to study and run Vatican finances, which included Hitlerâs personal banker and the pontiffâs old boss, Hermann Abs.[ 89 ] Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal protested this recently. [ 90 ] <b>The Pope also elevated Opus Dei, with 72,000 members in 80 countries, to the status of a religious order.</b>[91]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://hamsa.org/interview.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>10. There is a shadowy group called Opus Dei that is supposed to be doing significant theoretical work to help spread Christianity around the world. I believe the well-known Indian-Spanish Jesuit priest Raimundo Panikker is associated with them. What do you know about them?</b>
Opus Dei is everywhere but nobody really knows anything about them except their Vatican banker and the Pope who is their special advocate and patron. They are an authoritarian secret society with members in such places as the CIA and MI5. I am inclined to doubt that they would employ a theologian like Fr. Raimundo Panikker because he is a married priest and they are advocates of strict church discipline. Their fronts in India (and other developing countries) are scholars associations, history conferences, Hindu-Christian dialogue seminars, certain NGOs and aid agencies (all missionary outfits use NGOs and aid agencies as cover for their proselytizing activities), some Western embassies and the English-language media.
Opus Dei is especially interested in creating favorable public opinion for the Catholic Church and has infiltrated every major English-language daily. Read the op-ed page and letters column in any big city newspaper and you will probably find the handwork of Opus Dei. They want to manipulate and control public opinion. They would never employ a venomous journalist like A.J. Philip but soft columnists like Renuka Narayanan are definitely on their list of honorary lady Jesuits.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The thing is, the catholic church is very good at destroying countries and societies. In the last two centuries, christianism has developed and perfected the art of 'suiciding' others. And propaganda that looks like it emanates 'from nowhere' is the beginnings of it.
The oft-used English phrase: "Ignore at your peril" applies to the catholic church. They've got the money, they've got the people, they have the experience and, perhaps most importantly, they have the motivation.
Crypto infiltration is particularly a catholic delicacy.
Guys, keep this thread free of race/religious inter marriage stuff. Focus on activities and associations that are against national interest.
[right][snapback]93221[/snapback][/right]
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Arundhati's dad is a Bengali 'Hindu', her mum is a Kerala christian (Kerala christian tends to usually mean: of the syrian-turned-catholic church). Arundhati is a christian, not some mythical half-Hindu half-christian <- a kind of math only Hindus do.
I have no intention of talking about any mythical race.
And no religious inter-marriage was mentioned. N.Ram is not a Hindu. He is possibly - in all likelihood, I'd say - a christian.
These things *matter*. Prachanda being a christian matters. The wife of Sri Lanka's President Rajapakse being a christian matters. So too Sonia and her kids. N.Ram attending an <i>exclusive</i> Catholic Bishop's conference matters. The Angelsk media in India being christian-owned matters.
One can predict with scary certainty that India will not survive unless it entirely eradicates the meme of christoislamism from the country. Add to that communism (but it is more likely to wither without the watering from christoislamism).
Rome, even after identifying the real problem, drowned (it was too late, and christoism was on Total War path as is the wont of christoislamism). Indians are blinded by centuries of christian PR that legitimises terrorisms as supposedly 'valid' religions. These are NOT valid religions. And it is the right of every heathen to say so, to say that they are terrorisms concealed under religious garb, and that the world must be freed from them. There ought not be the slightest allowance for christianism, nor for islamism.
Neither of christoislamism will ever allow for a Hindu nation - a nation where the majority is unoppressed Hindus. A Hindu nationalism that seeks to live alongside christoislamism will find itself murdered. That's a one-way deal. Actually, a death warrant.
On why the christianism and christianist leanings of various orgs and individuals in India matters and one reason for why it's important to identify the religious affiliation of those entities:
Am going to paste a bit from the Rajeev Srinivasan's interview with the lovely Ishwar Sharan, but need a bit of an intro first. Was going to post all of the following as part II of something else, but that may have to wait and I'm not sure whether part I can go in the thread where I had started writing it...
<b>ADDED:</b> PART I
From American Atheists via http://freetruth.50webs.org/C1.htm -
Opus Dei was a gloriously catholic hence gore-iously fascist anti-semitic group:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Â Â Some of the sainthood choices, though, are prompting controversy.
  The theocratic dictator and 15th century Girolamo Savonarola was approved last month.
  John Paul also attracted controversy early in his pontificate when he beatified Josemaria Escriva de Balaguer, the founder of the Opus Dei group who was a virulent anti-Semite and fascist sympathizer.
From: Pope running "Saint factory"? John Paul beatifies monk accused of mental illness, fraud, philandering
http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/vatican4.htm<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJu...odAmericans.pdf
<b>Good Americans by John Judge, 1983</b>
A document about the German Nazis, the earlier oryanists, taken by the US after world war II (and who were soon after happily working in the CIA and other official US depts).
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Pope John Paul II</b> -- Worked at Auschwitz in a rubber plant run Nazi financier Hermann Abs for Solvay Drugs of I.G. Farben.[ 87] Farben, which also employed Fritz Kraemer, has 750 subsidiaries worldwide, including U.S. firms.[88] In the wake of the recent Vatican Bank scandals, Pope John Paul I I appointed a four-man committee to study and run Vatican finances, which included Hitlerâs personal banker and the pontiffâs old boss, Hermann Abs.[ 89 ] Nazi hunter Simon Wiesenthal protested this recently. [ 90 ] <b>The Pope also elevated Opus Dei, with 72,000 members in 80 countries, to the status of a religious order.</b>[91]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://hamsa.org/interview.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>10. There is a shadowy group called Opus Dei that is supposed to be doing significant theoretical work to help spread Christianity around the world. I believe the well-known Indian-Spanish Jesuit priest Raimundo Panikker is associated with them. What do you know about them?</b>
Opus Dei is everywhere but nobody really knows anything about them except their Vatican banker and the Pope who is their special advocate and patron. They are an authoritarian secret society with members in such places as the CIA and MI5. I am inclined to doubt that they would employ a theologian like Fr. Raimundo Panikker because he is a married priest and they are advocates of strict church discipline. Their fronts in India (and other developing countries) are scholars associations, history conferences, Hindu-Christian dialogue seminars, certain NGOs and aid agencies (all missionary outfits use NGOs and aid agencies as cover for their proselytizing activities), some Western embassies and the English-language media.
Opus Dei is especially interested in creating favorable public opinion for the Catholic Church and has infiltrated every major English-language daily. Read the op-ed page and letters column in any big city newspaper and you will probably find the handwork of Opus Dei. They want to manipulate and control public opinion. They would never employ a venomous journalist like A.J. Philip but soft columnists like Renuka Narayanan are definitely on their list of honorary lady Jesuits.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The thing is, the catholic church is very good at destroying countries and societies. In the last two centuries, christianism has developed and perfected the art of 'suiciding' others. And propaganda that looks like it emanates 'from nowhere' is the beginnings of it.
The oft-used English phrase: "Ignore at your peril" applies to the catholic church. They've got the money, they've got the people, they have the experience and, perhaps most importantly, they have the motivation.
Crypto infiltration is particularly a catholic delicacy.