HareKrishna:
Haribol. I have been going to Iskcon weekly house and temple meets for over a year now. It is a genuine path, scripturally supported, and the devotees have a great sense of brotherhood amongst themselves as well as a genuine sense of devotion to Krishna, who is scripturally supported as the Supreme Bhagawan.
My problems with iskon, though are as follows:
1. They are disonnected from reality, in that they do not know about the depredations of islam and christism, they continue to treat these 2 as some kind of a misguided form of vaishnavism.
2. They think the priority is to clarify the subtler points of what Krishna said; they do not give priority to solving the Hindus' problems. They dont consider themselves Hindu, which is fine with me if they at least saw the murderous cults of islam and christism as enemies of Krishna and vaishnavas. But they dont, they are too lazy intellectually to read up on isl/chr by themselves. They dont even see that *as per Krishna*, wiping out adharma in the firm of i/c is what needs to be done. Nope, they are too busy co-opting i/c. Pathetic.
3. They say they love Krishna, but keep praising jesus and mohamed, whose followers have been instructed to wipe out HIndus, vaishnav and all. Now would a genuine father praise the people who are out to kill his son? Do if the iskonites love Krishna as a son (or as a father, a lover, or whatever), then why do they tolerate islam and christianity?
---Well at least in my meets this problem has been resolved, I make it a point to staighten out anyone who shows any softness for islam/chr.
If this point is resolved in all of iskon, I would say iskon has the prowess, teh organizational skills, and the missionary zeal to raise up Dharma. Iskon will have problems with Shaivas, but that is negligible compared to the benefits accrued.
Basically this resolution about the real nature of i/c is *the* thing that needs to be worked out with *all* sampradayas: vaishnav, shaiva, bouddha, jain, BAPS, you name it...that is the real answer.
*Once* i/c are put in their place, vaishnavas and shaivas can have a robust debate on the finer points of Dharma amongst themselves, and I will be happy to serve panchaamrut and prasadam to all participants <!--emo&
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Haribol. I have been going to Iskcon weekly house and temple meets for over a year now. It is a genuine path, scripturally supported, and the devotees have a great sense of brotherhood amongst themselves as well as a genuine sense of devotion to Krishna, who is scripturally supported as the Supreme Bhagawan.
My problems with iskon, though are as follows:
1. They are disonnected from reality, in that they do not know about the depredations of islam and christism, they continue to treat these 2 as some kind of a misguided form of vaishnavism.
2. They think the priority is to clarify the subtler points of what Krishna said; they do not give priority to solving the Hindus' problems. They dont consider themselves Hindu, which is fine with me if they at least saw the murderous cults of islam and christism as enemies of Krishna and vaishnavas. But they dont, they are too lazy intellectually to read up on isl/chr by themselves. They dont even see that *as per Krishna*, wiping out adharma in the firm of i/c is what needs to be done. Nope, they are too busy co-opting i/c. Pathetic.
3. They say they love Krishna, but keep praising jesus and mohamed, whose followers have been instructed to wipe out HIndus, vaishnav and all. Now would a genuine father praise the people who are out to kill his son? Do if the iskonites love Krishna as a son (or as a father, a lover, or whatever), then why do they tolerate islam and christianity?
---Well at least in my meets this problem has been resolved, I make it a point to staighten out anyone who shows any softness for islam/chr.
If this point is resolved in all of iskon, I would say iskon has the prowess, teh organizational skills, and the missionary zeal to raise up Dharma. Iskon will have problems with Shaivas, but that is negligible compared to the benefits accrued.
Basically this resolution about the real nature of i/c is *the* thing that needs to be worked out with *all* sampradayas: vaishnav, shaiva, bouddha, jain, BAPS, you name it...that is the real answer.
*Once* i/c are put in their place, vaishnavas and shaivas can have a robust debate on the finer points of Dharma amongst themselves, and I will be happy to serve panchaamrut and prasadam to all participants <!--emo&
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