<!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Feb 3 2009, 09:36 AM-->QUOTE(Bodhi @ Feb 3 2009, 09:36 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->someone on a list informed that the "Suzanne" Arundhati is different from the author-activist Arundhati. While the former is a cousin of Prannoy Roy, the latter Arundhati the Booker Prize winner has no relation with the two.
[right][snapback]94181[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Let me try to get this clear. So they're <i>saying</i> (=claim):
'[Author-activist and Booker Prize winner Arundhati Roy] IS NOT [Suzanna Arundhati Roy cousin of Prannoy Roy]'.
Their claim is contradicted by the following (read in sequence):
1. http://www.rediff.com/news/oct/15mary.htm
- An interview with Mary Roy, Kerala Syrian Christian, women's activist AND mother of the Arundhati Roy who 'won' the booker prize for gawd of small things
- The interviewer also clarifies that Prannoy Roy of NDTV is first cousin to <i>this same</i> Arundhati Roy.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>'Arundhati did not write for money'</b>
Chindu Sreedharan
When the phone rang, <b>Mary Roy</b> heard it almost immediately.
What else could it be at 3 am in the morning? It must be about Arundhati.
It was.
"I was fast asleep. <b>Arundhati just told me she was the Booker choice," the proud mother told Rediff On The NeT</b> in a telephone interview from Kottayam, Kerala. "It was a brief conversation. She had her husband (Pradeep Kishen) with her and was talking from a crowded pressroom."
How, we ask that cliched question, did it feel to hear the news?
"How else but happy?" <b>Mary Roy</b> answered, "And very, very proud! I love her very much. I love her the same -- not more, not less because of it!"
The news, in reality, was not much of a surprise to the winner's mother.
"In the past few weeks, India was being impeded by bookie ratings -- Star News was showing it every day," she said. <b>(Prannoy Roy, the Star Newscaster, incidentally, is Arundhati's first cousin.)</b> <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The above at least proves that the Arundhati Roy who won the booker prize for 'god of small things' - is the daughter of (a Kerala Syrian) christian mother AND is cousin to NDTV's Prannoy Roy. (Wacky says about the book 'Gawd Of Small Things': "Prominent facets of Kerala life that the novel captures are Communism, the caste system, and <b>the Keralite Syrian Christian way of life</b>.")
Now for her names, before connecting the same Arundhati Roy to the one known for her anti-Hindu activism.
2. Wacky's Arundhati Roy page, author of booker prize winning "gawd of small things" - it tallies well with the above:
- Confirms her mother is the Kerala Syrian Christian 'women's activist' Mary Roy and that her cousin is Prannoy of NDTV
- Says that her name is Suzanna Arundhati Roy
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Arundhati Roy</b>
Arundhati Roy speaking at the 2007 World Tribunal on Iraq.
Born 24 November 1961 (1961-11-24) (age 46)
Shillong, Meghalaya, India
Occupation Novelist, essayist
Nationality India
Writing period 1997-present
<b>Suzanna Arundhati Roy</b> (born 24 November 1961) is an Indian writer and activist who won the <b>Booker Prize in 1997 for her novel, The God of Small Things,</b> and in 2002, the Lannan Cultural Freedom Prize.
[...]
<b>Roy was born</b> in Shillong, Meghalaya,[1] India, <b>to a Keralite Syrian Christian mother, the women's rights activist Mary Roy, and a Bengali father</b>, a tea planter by profession. Her brother had schizophrenia and committed suicide, possibly while under the influence of drugs of abuse. She spent her childhood in Ayemenem or Aymanam in Kerala, and <b>went to school at Corpus Christi, Kottayam,</b> followed by the Lawrence School, Lovedale, in the Nilgiris, Tamil Nadu. She then studied architecture at the School of Planning and Architecture, New Delhi, where she met her first husband, architect Gerard DaCunha.
<b>Roy met her second husband, filmmaker Pradip Krishen</b>, in 1984, and played a village girl in his award-winning movie Massey Sahib. She has two children. Until made financially stable by the success of <b>The God of Small Things,</b> she worked various jobs - including running aerobics classes at New Delhi five-star hotels. <b>Roy is a niece of prominent media personality Prannoy Roy, the head of the leading Indian TV media group NDTV,[2] and lives in New Delhi.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
3. http://www.sandeepweb.com/2005/08/05/impre...tional-slavery/
From a review discussing the contents of
Indian christian Richard Crasta's <b>Impressing the Whites: The New International Slavery</b>
- Shows that Margaret is the *other* name of Suzanna 'Arundhati' Roy (=winner of booker prize for 'gawd of small things' AND daughter of Kerala Syrian christian Mary Roy AND cousin to Prannoy Roy of NDTV):
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->August 5th, 2005
The fact that it is not popular owes precisely to the cause of the hard truths it reveals. An Amazon search revealed that it is âout of print/limited availabilityâ and thereâs not a single review: editorial or otherwise. <b>Crasta, a Mangalorean Catholic</b> by birth
[...]
<b>The book gives us a multitude of methods Indians use to impress the whites.</b>
[...]
Richard Crasta singles out the literary domain to prove his thesis, his chosen targets: Salman Rushdie, Vikram Seth, Amitav Ghosh (whose wife is one Deborah Baker), and <b>Arundhati Roy</b> and Pankaj Mishra, to an extent. He traces their literary careers in some detail and shows how they have become the spokesmen for the West to understand India. It is their ideas of India that the West accepts.
[...]
Returning to literature, Crasta calls the writers of Rushdieâs breed as âpublic school writers.â This alludes to their educationâin elite schools like the St Stephens where children are taught to denigrate the Indian heritage. That Pankaj Mishra called David Godwin after reading Arundhati Royâs manuscript instead of an Indian publisher is a beacon for how things are skewed.
<b>And then thereâs an insight into the politics of names. This is extremely subtle but powerful. Arundhati Royâs real name is Margaret Roy</b> but the West refuses to publish books authored by an Indian who has a non-Hindu name. From experience, Crasta says he was promised a hefty advance for one of his novels the moment he said he was contemplating a change of his name to Avatar Prabhu. Thereâs also a converse of this theory, which again is aimed to please the whites. Changing Indian names to âAmericanâ names so that they can pronounce/remember them easily.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
4. Finally, this is just to make it clear that Margaret Suzanna 'Arundhati' Roy - daughter of Kerala Syrian Christian Mary Roy, cousin to NDTV's Prannoy Roy and author of booker prize winning 'gawd of small things' - is the same lying christoterrorist we all know.
Here's a Guardian UK interview with her:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2007/feb/1...on.arundhatiroy
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Arundhati Roy wrote a stunning Booker winner</b>, then became a political activist. Ten years and two court cases later, she has begun a second novel. Randeep Ramesh reports.
[...]
Many had written off the chances that <b>Arundhati Roy</b> would return to the world of fiction. Her astounding first novel, <b>The God of Small Things</b>, won the <b>Booker</b> in 1997. Ten years and 6m copies later there was still no repeat of the lyrical, whirling debut. Instead Roy turned to lobbing literary Molotov cocktails at Enron, George Bush's war on terror and the World Trade Organisation in the form of incendiary polemics. No one could accuse her of having writers' block: she churned out six books, collections of her essays with titles such as Power Politics and An Ordinary Person's Guide to Empire.
[...]
Roy says some parts of the country, such as the western state of Gujarat - the scene of a bloody pogrom against Muslims five years ago - are off limits to her because of her campaigning. A few years ago she was briefly imprisoned for contempt of court while protesting against the country's controversial <b>Narmada Dam project.</b> The God of Small Things produced obscenity charges and a court case that ran for a decade, only to be dismissed last week.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The following is not really relevant, but interesting info. This is an interview with Mary Roy - mother of Margaret Suzanna 'Arundhati' Roy who won the booker prize for gawd of small things:
http://www.rediff.com/news/sep/18arun.htm
<b>'Ammu may have some similarities to me, but she is not Mary Roy'</b>
by George Iype
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->[image:]Mary Roy
Arundhati Roy's The God Of Small Things, has just been nominated for Britain's top literary award, the Booker Prize.
Consistently on the bestseller lists for several months now, the book has attracted its share of controversy. A member of the Syrian Christian church has filed a case against the novelist for allegedly vilifying the community while Marxist leader E M S Nambooridipad has accused Roy of mangling facts.
To understand the controversies swirling around the book, Rediff On the NeT's George Iype turned to an unlikely quarter -- Mary Roy, Arundhati Roy's mother and herself a celebrated maverick. A Rediff On The NeT World Exclusive!
Both mother and daughter are rebels. The mother fought against Christian inheritance law, winning a landmark Supreme Court verdict that granted Christian women in Kerala the right to their parents's property. The daughter left home at 18, did not see her mother for six years after that, lived an unconventional lifestyle and is now a literary superstar.
After a 30-year relentless campaign for women's rights, Mary Roy now leads a quiet life in Kottayam where she <b>runs the much sought-after Corpus Christi school at Kalathipady. Arundhati is a member of the school's governing body</b>; the wars of the past are over -- mother and daughter are now close as is evident from Arundhati's moving dedication to Mary in her book.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Note: just like Mary Roy, many christians are 'rebels' against the church or christoterrorist laws, but they are still devout christians. Similar to how many christians are communists, and how many African origin people in America are christians while being opposed to European christians.
Mary Roy's answer to the last question of the interview reveals a typically christian mindset: "Because us christian women are oppressed in christianism (and islamic women are oppressed by islamism), *all* women in India must be similarly oppressed toooooo":
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Do you think women in India are still under the dominance of men?</b>
Of course, they are. There are few women who are able to work and support their families in India. Indian women need more economic independence. One absolute certainty in India is that women are born to get married. And marriage means getting a <b>dowry.</b> And getting a dowry means staying with your parents. And staying with your parents is to get social acceptance. Or else your daughter will not get the right bridegroom. This is the biggest hurdle that women face in India today.
What we need is mental and financial independence for women so that they can exist as Indian citizens with equal rights with men.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Indian christian women can stop speaking for Dharmics. Yes, christian women have it very bad. But they have a tendency to want to see the christianist oppression of christian women mirrored among free peoples. Repeat: therefore they make it their monotheist mission to 'save all women' only because they themselves are oppressed. They must 'save', in the pattern of their non-existent jesus who is advertised as 'saving' the ... as saving ... something or other.
Also, dowry is a rampant disease among Kerala christians among whom its occurrence is 80%, whereas it is only ~50% among Kerala Hindus - as even an article in the christian paper TOI had to admit:
<b>timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/825415.cms</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Even in matter of dowry, Christians lead the tally with 80% families following it. Muslims tag along at 76%. Though less, Hindus too are yet to rid themselves of the social evil with 52% still under its grip.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
[right][snapback]94181[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Let me try to get this clear. So they're <i>saying</i> (=claim):
'[Author-activist and Booker Prize winner Arundhati Roy] IS NOT [Suzanna Arundhati Roy cousin of Prannoy Roy]'.
Their claim is contradicted by the following (read in sequence):
1. http://www.rediff.com/news/oct/15mary.htm
- An interview with Mary Roy, Kerala Syrian Christian, women's activist AND mother of the Arundhati Roy who 'won' the booker prize for gawd of small things
- The interviewer also clarifies that Prannoy Roy of NDTV is first cousin to <i>this same</i> Arundhati Roy.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>'Arundhati did not write for money'</b>
Chindu Sreedharan
When the phone rang, <b>Mary Roy</b> heard it almost immediately.
What else could it be at 3 am in the morning? It must be about Arundhati.
It was.
"I was fast asleep. <b>Arundhati just told me she was the Booker choice," the proud mother told Rediff On The NeT</b> in a telephone interview from Kottayam, Kerala. "It was a brief conversation. She had her husband (Pradeep Kishen) with her and was talking from a crowded pressroom."
How, we ask that cliched question, did it feel to hear the news?
"How else but happy?" <b>Mary Roy</b> answered, "And very, very proud! I love her very much. I love her the same -- not more, not less because of it!"
The news, in reality, was not much of a surprise to the winner's mother.
"In the past few weeks, India was being impeded by bookie ratings -- Star News was showing it every day," she said. <b>(Prannoy Roy, the Star Newscaster, incidentally, is Arundhati's first cousin.)</b> <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The above at least proves that the Arundhati Roy who won the booker prize for 'god of small things' - is the daughter of (a Kerala Syrian) christian mother AND is cousin to NDTV's Prannoy Roy. (Wacky says about the book 'Gawd Of Small Things': "Prominent facets of Kerala life that the novel captures are Communism, the caste system, and <b>the Keralite Syrian Christian way of life</b>.")
Now for her names, before connecting the same Arundhati Roy to the one known for her anti-Hindu activism.
2. Wacky's Arundhati Roy page, author of booker prize winning "gawd of small things" - it tallies well with the above:
- Confirms her mother is the Kerala Syrian Christian 'women's activist' Mary Roy and that her cousin is Prannoy of NDTV
- Says that her name is Suzanna Arundhati Roy
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Arundhati Roy</b>
Arundhati Roy speaking at the 2007 World Tribunal on Iraq.
Born 24 November 1961 (1961-11-24) (age 46)
Shillong, Meghalaya, India
Occupation Novelist, essayist
Nationality India
Writing period 1997-present
<b>Suzanna Arundhati Roy</b> (born 24 November 1961) is an Indian writer and activist who won the <b>Booker Prize in 1997 for her novel, The God of Small Things,</b> and in 2002, the Lannan Cultural Freedom Prize.
[...]
<b>Roy was born</b> in Shillong, Meghalaya,[1] India, <b>to a Keralite Syrian Christian mother, the women's rights activist Mary Roy, and a Bengali father</b>, a tea planter by profession. Her brother had schizophrenia and committed suicide, possibly while under the influence of drugs of abuse. She spent her childhood in Ayemenem or Aymanam in Kerala, and <b>went to school at Corpus Christi, Kottayam,</b> followed by the Lawrence School, Lovedale, in the Nilgiris, Tamil Nadu. She then studied architecture at the School of Planning and Architecture, New Delhi, where she met her first husband, architect Gerard DaCunha.
<b>Roy met her second husband, filmmaker Pradip Krishen</b>, in 1984, and played a village girl in his award-winning movie Massey Sahib. She has two children. Until made financially stable by the success of <b>The God of Small Things,</b> she worked various jobs - including running aerobics classes at New Delhi five-star hotels. <b>Roy is a niece of prominent media personality Prannoy Roy, the head of the leading Indian TV media group NDTV,[2] and lives in New Delhi.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
3. http://www.sandeepweb.com/2005/08/05/impre...tional-slavery/
From a review discussing the contents of
Indian christian Richard Crasta's <b>Impressing the Whites: The New International Slavery</b>
- Shows that Margaret is the *other* name of Suzanna 'Arundhati' Roy (=winner of booker prize for 'gawd of small things' AND daughter of Kerala Syrian christian Mary Roy AND cousin to Prannoy Roy of NDTV):
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->August 5th, 2005
The fact that it is not popular owes precisely to the cause of the hard truths it reveals. An Amazon search revealed that it is âout of print/limited availabilityâ and thereâs not a single review: editorial or otherwise. <b>Crasta, a Mangalorean Catholic</b> by birth
[...]
<b>The book gives us a multitude of methods Indians use to impress the whites.</b>
[...]
Richard Crasta singles out the literary domain to prove his thesis, his chosen targets: Salman Rushdie, Vikram Seth, Amitav Ghosh (whose wife is one Deborah Baker), and <b>Arundhati Roy</b> and Pankaj Mishra, to an extent. He traces their literary careers in some detail and shows how they have become the spokesmen for the West to understand India. It is their ideas of India that the West accepts.
[...]
Returning to literature, Crasta calls the writers of Rushdieâs breed as âpublic school writers.â This alludes to their educationâin elite schools like the St Stephens where children are taught to denigrate the Indian heritage. That Pankaj Mishra called David Godwin after reading Arundhati Royâs manuscript instead of an Indian publisher is a beacon for how things are skewed.
<b>And then thereâs an insight into the politics of names. This is extremely subtle but powerful. Arundhati Royâs real name is Margaret Roy</b> but the West refuses to publish books authored by an Indian who has a non-Hindu name. From experience, Crasta says he was promised a hefty advance for one of his novels the moment he said he was contemplating a change of his name to Avatar Prabhu. Thereâs also a converse of this theory, which again is aimed to please the whites. Changing Indian names to âAmericanâ names so that they can pronounce/remember them easily.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
4. Finally, this is just to make it clear that Margaret Suzanna 'Arundhati' Roy - daughter of Kerala Syrian Christian Mary Roy, cousin to NDTV's Prannoy Roy and author of booker prize winning 'gawd of small things' - is the same lying christoterrorist we all know.
Here's a Guardian UK interview with her:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2007/feb/1...on.arundhatiroy
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Arundhati Roy wrote a stunning Booker winner</b>, then became a political activist. Ten years and two court cases later, she has begun a second novel. Randeep Ramesh reports.
[...]
Many had written off the chances that <b>Arundhati Roy</b> would return to the world of fiction. Her astounding first novel, <b>The God of Small Things</b>, won the <b>Booker</b> in 1997. Ten years and 6m copies later there was still no repeat of the lyrical, whirling debut. Instead Roy turned to lobbing literary Molotov cocktails at Enron, George Bush's war on terror and the World Trade Organisation in the form of incendiary polemics. No one could accuse her of having writers' block: she churned out six books, collections of her essays with titles such as Power Politics and An Ordinary Person's Guide to Empire.
[...]
Roy says some parts of the country, such as the western state of Gujarat - the scene of a bloody pogrom against Muslims five years ago - are off limits to her because of her campaigning. A few years ago she was briefly imprisoned for contempt of court while protesting against the country's controversial <b>Narmada Dam project.</b> The God of Small Things produced obscenity charges and a court case that ran for a decade, only to be dismissed last week.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The following is not really relevant, but interesting info. This is an interview with Mary Roy - mother of Margaret Suzanna 'Arundhati' Roy who won the booker prize for gawd of small things:
http://www.rediff.com/news/sep/18arun.htm
<b>'Ammu may have some similarities to me, but she is not Mary Roy'</b>
by George Iype
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->[image:]Mary Roy
Arundhati Roy's The God Of Small Things, has just been nominated for Britain's top literary award, the Booker Prize.
Consistently on the bestseller lists for several months now, the book has attracted its share of controversy. A member of the Syrian Christian church has filed a case against the novelist for allegedly vilifying the community while Marxist leader E M S Nambooridipad has accused Roy of mangling facts.
To understand the controversies swirling around the book, Rediff On the NeT's George Iype turned to an unlikely quarter -- Mary Roy, Arundhati Roy's mother and herself a celebrated maverick. A Rediff On The NeT World Exclusive!
Both mother and daughter are rebels. The mother fought against Christian inheritance law, winning a landmark Supreme Court verdict that granted Christian women in Kerala the right to their parents's property. The daughter left home at 18, did not see her mother for six years after that, lived an unconventional lifestyle and is now a literary superstar.
After a 30-year relentless campaign for women's rights, Mary Roy now leads a quiet life in Kottayam where she <b>runs the much sought-after Corpus Christi school at Kalathipady. Arundhati is a member of the school's governing body</b>; the wars of the past are over -- mother and daughter are now close as is evident from Arundhati's moving dedication to Mary in her book.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Note: just like Mary Roy, many christians are 'rebels' against the church or christoterrorist laws, but they are still devout christians. Similar to how many christians are communists, and how many African origin people in America are christians while being opposed to European christians.
Mary Roy's answer to the last question of the interview reveals a typically christian mindset: "Because us christian women are oppressed in christianism (and islamic women are oppressed by islamism), *all* women in India must be similarly oppressed toooooo":
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Do you think women in India are still under the dominance of men?</b>
Of course, they are. There are few women who are able to work and support their families in India. Indian women need more economic independence. One absolute certainty in India is that women are born to get married. And marriage means getting a <b>dowry.</b> And getting a dowry means staying with your parents. And staying with your parents is to get social acceptance. Or else your daughter will not get the right bridegroom. This is the biggest hurdle that women face in India today.
What we need is mental and financial independence for women so that they can exist as Indian citizens with equal rights with men.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Indian christian women can stop speaking for Dharmics. Yes, christian women have it very bad. But they have a tendency to want to see the christianist oppression of christian women mirrored among free peoples. Repeat: therefore they make it their monotheist mission to 'save all women' only because they themselves are oppressed. They must 'save', in the pattern of their non-existent jesus who is advertised as 'saving' the ... as saving ... something or other.
Also, dowry is a rampant disease among Kerala christians among whom its occurrence is 80%, whereas it is only ~50% among Kerala Hindus - as even an article in the christian paper TOI had to admit:
<b>timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/825415.cms</b>
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Even in matter of dowry, Christians lead the tally with 80% families following it. Muslims tag along at 76%. Though less, Hindus too are yet to rid themselves of the social evil with 52% still under its grip.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->