02-13-2009, 12:28 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Feb 12 2009, 12:50 AM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Feb 12 2009, 12:50 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Feb 7 2009, 08:17 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bodhi @ Feb 7 2009, 08:17 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Those who consider "pub" to be a western influence on bhArata are ill-informed. For several centuries Hindus have enjoyed their maNDapas, and yes women from decent families could visit these taverns too. Many an important transactions have been executed over sessions of maNDa in ancient India.
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You're merely talking about the consumption of some alcoholic (or otherwise intoxicating) beverage at a dedicated place where this was sold and socially consumed. And that's where the similarity of the Hindu/Shinto situation with respect to modern 'culture' ends. One can't draw a straight line between the two.
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I agree with Bodhi and you as well. The practice of communal drinking and dining is familiar to all cultures and of course cannot be shunned. What is to be abhorred is that these "MODEN" bars and pubs are basically prostitution centers where naive and stupid Hindu girls can be exploited by Muslims and Xtians. These are nothing but centers of depravity and degenerate behavior that only sluts would pursue.
An example of how these MODEN kool yaars in the Indian cities tend to think -
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->A group of college girls are animated as they voice their opinion at a brightly-lit cafe.
"Whatever we do, it's our choice and our life. If we make out in public and people see us it's our problem. Who are you to punish us?" asks one angry teenager. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7858157.stm
Even these gutter sluts here in the west don't act like this. These girls think every hollywood production is an accurate reflection of western society and that somehow it is synonymous with "modernity" and "progress". Sick and tired of hearing about this doctrine of "progress".
[right][snapback]94348[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Bodhi, "pub culture" is something totally different from what you describe. Just like the Shinto Japanese drinking their Saki in their traditional inns is not the same.
You're merely talking about the consumption of some alcoholic (or otherwise intoxicating) beverage at a dedicated place where this was sold and socially consumed. And that's where the similarity of the Hindu/Shinto situation with respect to modern 'culture' ends. One can't draw a straight line between the two.
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I agree with Bodhi and you as well. The practice of communal drinking and dining is familiar to all cultures and of course cannot be shunned. What is to be abhorred is that these "MODEN" bars and pubs are basically prostitution centers where naive and stupid Hindu girls can be exploited by Muslims and Xtians. These are nothing but centers of depravity and degenerate behavior that only sluts would pursue.
An example of how these MODEN kool yaars in the Indian cities tend to think -
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->A group of college girls are animated as they voice their opinion at a brightly-lit cafe.
"Whatever we do, it's our choice and our life. If we make out in public and people see us it's our problem. Who are you to punish us?" asks one angry teenager. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7858157.stm
Even these gutter sluts here in the west don't act like this. These girls think every hollywood production is an accurate reflection of western society and that somehow it is synonymous with "modernity" and "progress". Sick and tired of hearing about this doctrine of "progress".