02-13-2009, 09:09 PM
From another forum
brihaspati wrote:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I had speculated some time ago that the western powers and others interested in preserving TSP will see to it that the current GOI and the regime behind it returns to power in the next round of elections. For this they will need to give something to GOI to make it look powerful and active agianst Jihad at least temporarily. Thus there will be a great deal of pressure by the USA, UK, and PRC on TSP to provide a sop that refurbishes the image of GOI and the political forces behind it save their seats. I guess this plan of action is moving forward. In this sense, the strategic leadership of India for the immediate future has moved somewhat into the hands of US+UK+PRC. The common people will be voting for their immediate material gains and they have no reason to share in the concerns of a minority in the elite about long term and apparently abstract larger strategic issues even if they understand the potential consequences. For most parts, probably for them, the entire elite is self-centred and highly dupliticious and completely unrelaiable when they talk of "principle" and "nation".
Thus if there is no electoral reflection of the majority's strict stance on "national threats", US+UK+PRC+EU (UK kisses both PRC and US a** as they have laways done for their own geo-strategic power games) can very well combine with the GOI (which will be glad for the rescue) for strategic leadership of India, at least until the elctions roll over.
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How do you look at the members of the current GOI having relationship with western govt, western leaders etc. Tony Blair was endrossing Rahul Gandhi
One of the great psychological and public dramatic advantage the Cong enjoys now is its projection of "young" leadership as a team. They have cleverly tried to shield RG from taking all flak by putting up OA as an young "face" of Indian Islam who appears to act as an ally (the classic JLN+FA image to pull the wool over rest of India) and in the "youth brigade" and his sister also doing the rounds to diffuse the focus a bit. However the dynastic thinking has one great shortfall - it cannot tolerate abilities that surpass that present in the bloodline. OA was selected only because he was politically weak in the national context. Any future additions to the dynastic team has to based on the strict criteria of politically weaker, glamorous enough to mesmerize "young" Indians (I am hazarding a guess that the more photogenic, and camera charming they are the better their chances of selection - have not had a poll about this, but "handsomeness" of both RG and OA apparently turn a lot of the "better half" youth to jello!), and not more intelligent than RG, neither more crowd pulling than RG. So a host of weak, less competent, charming and ruthless young ambition will be pushed up - all who would be forced to be dependent on the name/heritage represented by RG for their power. The Indian state machinery will probably help - as it is not unlikely that it remains under deep penetration from USA+UK from right after the days of transition at Independence.
For the west, a weak leader dependent on western powers to a great extent even to neutralize internal opposition is a good thing to happen. I will gues that even PRC will lower its aggressive tone for the moment, at least until the Cong returns to power. None of the gang of four UK+EU+USA+PRC wants a force to come up in India that does not rely on outside-of-Indian-ness as an integral part of its acceptability locally and globally. Just as for the Cong+Left, it is also important for the gang-of-four to prevent any strongly nationalistic and culturally independent core leadership to form in India.
brihaspati wrote:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I had speculated some time ago that the western powers and others interested in preserving TSP will see to it that the current GOI and the regime behind it returns to power in the next round of elections. For this they will need to give something to GOI to make it look powerful and active agianst Jihad at least temporarily. Thus there will be a great deal of pressure by the USA, UK, and PRC on TSP to provide a sop that refurbishes the image of GOI and the political forces behind it save their seats. I guess this plan of action is moving forward. In this sense, the strategic leadership of India for the immediate future has moved somewhat into the hands of US+UK+PRC. The common people will be voting for their immediate material gains and they have no reason to share in the concerns of a minority in the elite about long term and apparently abstract larger strategic issues even if they understand the potential consequences. For most parts, probably for them, the entire elite is self-centred and highly dupliticious and completely unrelaiable when they talk of "principle" and "nation".
Thus if there is no electoral reflection of the majority's strict stance on "national threats", US+UK+PRC+EU (UK kisses both PRC and US a** as they have laways done for their own geo-strategic power games) can very well combine with the GOI (which will be glad for the rescue) for strategic leadership of India, at least until the elctions roll over.
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How do you look at the members of the current GOI having relationship with western govt, western leaders etc. Tony Blair was endrossing Rahul Gandhi
One of the great psychological and public dramatic advantage the Cong enjoys now is its projection of "young" leadership as a team. They have cleverly tried to shield RG from taking all flak by putting up OA as an young "face" of Indian Islam who appears to act as an ally (the classic JLN+FA image to pull the wool over rest of India) and in the "youth brigade" and his sister also doing the rounds to diffuse the focus a bit. However the dynastic thinking has one great shortfall - it cannot tolerate abilities that surpass that present in the bloodline. OA was selected only because he was politically weak in the national context. Any future additions to the dynastic team has to based on the strict criteria of politically weaker, glamorous enough to mesmerize "young" Indians (I am hazarding a guess that the more photogenic, and camera charming they are the better their chances of selection - have not had a poll about this, but "handsomeness" of both RG and OA apparently turn a lot of the "better half" youth to jello!), and not more intelligent than RG, neither more crowd pulling than RG. So a host of weak, less competent, charming and ruthless young ambition will be pushed up - all who would be forced to be dependent on the name/heritage represented by RG for their power. The Indian state machinery will probably help - as it is not unlikely that it remains under deep penetration from USA+UK from right after the days of transition at Independence.
For the west, a weak leader dependent on western powers to a great extent even to neutralize internal opposition is a good thing to happen. I will gues that even PRC will lower its aggressive tone for the moment, at least until the Cong returns to power. None of the gang of four UK+EU+USA+PRC wants a force to come up in India that does not rely on outside-of-Indian-ness as an integral part of its acceptability locally and globally. Just as for the Cong+Left, it is also important for the gang-of-four to prevent any strongly nationalistic and culturally independent core leadership to form in India.