<!--QuoteBegin-G.Subramaniam+Feb 24 2009, 07:05 PM-->QUOTE(G.Subramaniam @ Feb 24 2009, 07:05 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->Husky, I am from tamil nadu, and not a dravidianist
It irks me when ignorant people from other states make dumb statements[right][snapback]94890[/snapback][/right]
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->And what state did you think I was from? <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I don't believe in Japhetics/Hamitics either, btw.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I am not going to discuss any more with you since you are not a local<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Well, in so far as I'm not in TN now, I suppose I'm not local enough for you. But if <i>you're</i> not living in TN at present either, the same will go for you.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Buddhist monks have been against hindus for a long time
(And)
Myanmar<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Yes and yes. How often do you want me to agree on this? I'm under no illusions on this matter, nor on who the aggressors are and who the victims thereof.
As I said, I am aware of some of the history and present of Buddhist expansion. And I also know of data that shows it was worse than I have indicated.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Buddhist monks have desecrated hindu temples in sri lanka even a few months ago
The initial villain in sri lanka are / were buddhist monks
the later opportunistic villain is the xtian missionary<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Where is the disagreement?
<b>The problem I have is not your pointing out Buddhist persecution of Hindus in SL - which is a fact that cannot be denied - but your holding up the christo LTTE as an alternative.</b> Because the christoLTTE have been having the same sort of 'success' against Hindus and Hindu Dharma (murdering Hindu priests - Sandhya Jain mentioned that these number several as well - AND destroying Hindu temples), but they are getting away with it because they do it under the cover of 'representing Hindus'. They must be exposed, along with your expose of SL Buddhism as being not so glorious as people believe.
I'm saying what I've long thought:
1. SL Hindus need to represent themselves. Not let christoterrorists hijack their case and continue to play them. The Tamils (Hindus) there have no friends among either the Buddhist side or the christoLTTE side.
This is not an uncommon view among those SL Hindus who now live in exile. They are afraid of <i>both</i> groups.
2. SL religious dynamics is so complex, can't only focus on the visibles: Hindus and Buddhists.
If you wanted me to just repeat my personal views on how SL Buddhists are being villains here, I can do that <i>really well</i>. And some of it will even be quite objective. But these are facts known to all here (or ought to be).
However, I'm willing to bet that my bringing those things up will not make clear what ELSE is happening to the Hindus in SL. And that is something that should be discussed <i>alongside</i> SL Buddhists' anti-Hindu violence. If there's no additional factor in Burmese Buddhists driving out Hindus, there still is one in the case of SL Buddhists' persecution of Hindus. Moreover, one can't view their continued attacks on Hindu temples NOW in a vacuum while ignoring that the christoLTTE is expressly continuing to instigate SL Buddhist reprisals <i>against Hindus</i>.
Why is it that every Hindu who finds there is reason to be anti-LTTE is assumed to be pro-SL Buddhist, as if this is the only alternative conclusion that can be drawn? Nah. I'm ONLY pro-SL Tamil <i>Hindus</i> (I'm so very sorry that I don't remotely care about the SL christian and muslim 'Tamils'.)
It irks me when ignorant people from other states make dumb statements[right][snapback]94890[/snapback][/right]
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->And what state did you think I was from? <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
I don't believe in Japhetics/Hamitics either, btw.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->I am not going to discuss any more with you since you are not a local<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Well, in so far as I'm not in TN now, I suppose I'm not local enough for you. But if <i>you're</i> not living in TN at present either, the same will go for you.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Buddhist monks have been against hindus for a long time
(And)
Myanmar<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Yes and yes. How often do you want me to agree on this? I'm under no illusions on this matter, nor on who the aggressors are and who the victims thereof.
As I said, I am aware of some of the history and present of Buddhist expansion. And I also know of data that shows it was worse than I have indicated.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Buddhist monks have desecrated hindu temples in sri lanka even a few months ago
The initial villain in sri lanka are / were buddhist monks
the later opportunistic villain is the xtian missionary<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Where is the disagreement?
<b>The problem I have is not your pointing out Buddhist persecution of Hindus in SL - which is a fact that cannot be denied - but your holding up the christo LTTE as an alternative.</b> Because the christoLTTE have been having the same sort of 'success' against Hindus and Hindu Dharma (murdering Hindu priests - Sandhya Jain mentioned that these number several as well - AND destroying Hindu temples), but they are getting away with it because they do it under the cover of 'representing Hindus'. They must be exposed, along with your expose of SL Buddhism as being not so glorious as people believe.
I'm saying what I've long thought:
1. SL Hindus need to represent themselves. Not let christoterrorists hijack their case and continue to play them. The Tamils (Hindus) there have no friends among either the Buddhist side or the christoLTTE side.
This is not an uncommon view among those SL Hindus who now live in exile. They are afraid of <i>both</i> groups.
2. SL religious dynamics is so complex, can't only focus on the visibles: Hindus and Buddhists.
If you wanted me to just repeat my personal views on how SL Buddhists are being villains here, I can do that <i>really well</i>. And some of it will even be quite objective. But these are facts known to all here (or ought to be).
However, I'm willing to bet that my bringing those things up will not make clear what ELSE is happening to the Hindus in SL. And that is something that should be discussed <i>alongside</i> SL Buddhists' anti-Hindu violence. If there's no additional factor in Burmese Buddhists driving out Hindus, there still is one in the case of SL Buddhists' persecution of Hindus. Moreover, one can't view their continued attacks on Hindu temples NOW in a vacuum while ignoring that the christoLTTE is expressly continuing to instigate SL Buddhist reprisals <i>against Hindus</i>.
Why is it that every Hindu who finds there is reason to be anti-LTTE is assumed to be pro-SL Buddhist, as if this is the only alternative conclusion that can be drawn? Nah. I'm ONLY pro-SL Tamil <i>Hindus</i> (I'm so very sorry that I don't remotely care about the SL christian and muslim 'Tamils'.)