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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Renuka Ma, Baba and Baby â Let's Pub</b>
Radha Rajan
11 Feb 2009<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->A really 'deep' comment on the above article:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> Dear Radha Rajanji A first reading was good and hilarious. But a second and third reading made me feel we are watering down a serious issue of control of women under the guise of culture and religion. It is a dangerous path, especially for women who have never been successful in breaking these shackles. While Renuka's comments were tasteless, the point we have missed by a mile seems to be the urge to control women's sexuality. Â
 SreeramÂ
 25 Feb 2009<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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I think Sandhya's article at Pursuing Sex: should we scrap the Sharda Act? - although not meant as a response - contains the only sort of 'answers' that "Sreeram" (above) will ever get.
His comment brings in arguments from the christowestern sphere into the Dharmic Indian context where it does not belong at all. There is no "urge to control people's sexuality" and there is no "controlling people under the guise of (or in actuality through) religioculture" in Natural Traditions. Sreeram is regurgitating arguments that people validly had against christianism (and that also apply to islamism) against the Dharmic way of life. Sreeram's comment is like having to hear an Indian lecture Hindus on how we shouldn't burn witches. <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Dharmic and all Natural Traditionalist people have, <i>in general</i>, always tended to be self-regulated - exceptions there have been (as there were in Rome), but I speak of the general case.
It's only the alien and alienating ideas that christowesternisation is trying its best to introduce into India that is creating confused individuals who start thinking and behaving christowestern but doing so in a Natural Traditionalist society.
The patterned way of thinking that's been instilled into them is entirely out of place, so their subsequent christowestern behaviour (and their christowestern arguments for it) is also entirely out of place.
http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplay...cle.aspx?id=399
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Commerce, like Secularism, is only a mask of the Christian god, a truth Islam has been quite savvy about; Hindus would do well to wake up to the cancerous threat to Indiaâs civilisational ethos.
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in Hindu tradition, the family and not the individual is the smallest social unit. The atomization of the family, achieved by the Christian tradition,<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Sandhya's observations are applicable to more than the Hindu tradition, since the family and then community are also the basic social units in traditional Native American society, in Shinto, Taoist and Mahayana Buddhist societies and in traditional rural Hellenic societies and actually in general Natural Traditionalist society. In condemning unchecked and juvenile behaviour in Rome, Julian, Aurelius and other pagan Emperors were expressing the same sentiments as Hindus are now.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Renuka Ma, Baba and Baby â Let's Pub</b>
Radha Rajan
11 Feb 2009<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->A really 'deep' comment on the above article:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--> Dear Radha Rajanji A first reading was good and hilarious. But a second and third reading made me feel we are watering down a serious issue of control of women under the guise of culture and religion. It is a dangerous path, especially for women who have never been successful in breaking these shackles. While Renuka's comments were tasteless, the point we have missed by a mile seems to be the urge to control women's sexuality. Â
 SreeramÂ
 25 Feb 2009<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<Snipped my opinionating>
<b>ADDED:</b>
I think Sandhya's article at Pursuing Sex: should we scrap the Sharda Act? - although not meant as a response - contains the only sort of 'answers' that "Sreeram" (above) will ever get.
His comment brings in arguments from the christowestern sphere into the Dharmic Indian context where it does not belong at all. There is no "urge to control people's sexuality" and there is no "controlling people under the guise of (or in actuality through) religioculture" in Natural Traditions. Sreeram is regurgitating arguments that people validly had against christianism (and that also apply to islamism) against the Dharmic way of life. Sreeram's comment is like having to hear an Indian lecture Hindus on how we shouldn't burn witches. <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo-->
Dharmic and all Natural Traditionalist people have, <i>in general</i>, always tended to be self-regulated - exceptions there have been (as there were in Rome), but I speak of the general case.
It's only the alien and alienating ideas that christowesternisation is trying its best to introduce into India that is creating confused individuals who start thinking and behaving christowestern but doing so in a Natural Traditionalist society.
The patterned way of thinking that's been instilled into them is entirely out of place, so their subsequent christowestern behaviour (and their christowestern arguments for it) is also entirely out of place.
http://www.vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplay...cle.aspx?id=399
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Commerce, like Secularism, is only a mask of the Christian god, a truth Islam has been quite savvy about; Hindus would do well to wake up to the cancerous threat to Indiaâs civilisational ethos.
...
in Hindu tradition, the family and not the individual is the smallest social unit. The atomization of the family, achieved by the Christian tradition,<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Sandhya's observations are applicable to more than the Hindu tradition, since the family and then community are also the basic social units in traditional Native American society, in Shinto, Taoist and Mahayana Buddhist societies and in traditional rural Hellenic societies and actually in general Natural Traditionalist society. In condemning unchecked and juvenile behaviour in Rome, Julian, Aurelius and other pagan Emperors were expressing the same sentiments as Hindus are now.
Death to traitors.