03-06-2009, 02:13 AM
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<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->There is something in what you say about India drawing its enemies inside. When the frontier is breached at Khyber, the Indics combat the 'other' at Panipat even in Maratha times (3rd battle of Panipat). Yes India did envelope and assimilate its conquerors but the colonial tinkering with the ideologies for their own geo-political puroposes (Deobandi and Wahabi mollycoddling) has led to the reversal force of history in modern times. In fact this reversed flow is being presented as the true flow of the force of history. <!--emo&
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BTW the West was on the rise only after Islam had gone thru its Arabic phase, Periso-Arabic and then the Seljuk Turkic phase. What Islamization of Middle East did was to end the scourge of Persia towards Mediterranean just as Orthodox Russia ended the other scourge of the horde from Central Asia. It was the elimination of the twin scourges that allowed the rise of Europe. And the paradox is the Central Asians even adopted Islam and thus got pacified to kismet!
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So Islam really did stop the Westward flow of eastern peoples since time immemorial. So was that the idea behind Islam?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->There is something in what you say about India drawing its enemies inside. When the frontier is breached at Khyber, the Indics combat the 'other' at Panipat even in Maratha times (3rd battle of Panipat). Yes India did envelope and assimilate its conquerors but the colonial tinkering with the ideologies for their own geo-political puroposes (Deobandi and Wahabi mollycoddling) has led to the reversal force of history in modern times. In fact this reversed flow is being presented as the true flow of the force of history. <!--emo&
--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/sad.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='sad.gif' /><!--endemo--> BTW the West was on the rise only after Islam had gone thru its Arabic phase, Periso-Arabic and then the Seljuk Turkic phase. What Islamization of Middle East did was to end the scourge of Persia towards Mediterranean just as Orthodox Russia ended the other scourge of the horde from Central Asia. It was the elimination of the twin scourges that allowed the rise of Europe. And the paradox is the Central Asians even adopted Islam and thus got pacified to kismet!
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So Islam really did stop the Westward flow of eastern peoples since time immemorial. So was that the idea behind Islam?