Sounds like this Feroze Varun Gandhi is only alienating Hindus (me, in any case) and other Dharmics apparently. I mean, what IS this:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The 70-year-old Sikh from Ramnagar village was even asked to leave one of the Hindu meets being addressed by Varun.
"He neither has respect for any other religion nor even for elders. In his arrogance, he has gone to the extent of forgetting that his mother was also a Sikh before her marriage," Gurudial said.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->His dad Sanjay Gandhi was islamic, wasn't he (or am I getting the various Goondas mixed up)? <b>ADDED:</b> Well, here is Bodhi referring to Sanjay's islamism, so maybe I didn't get it completely wrong.
And his mother Maneka a Sikh according to the above. Yet Varun obviously thinks Sikhs are not Hindu since he sent this elderly Sikh person packing.
Where does this Varun get his 'Hindu' identity from (if he doesn't think his Sikh mother is a Hindu either on account of her being Sikh)? Or is his 'Hinduness' a 'self-discovery' he has made to help the KKKangress by scaring Hindus off voting BJP (and scaring off other BJP members) through his KKKangressi rhetoric? I mean, with friends like this who needs enemies? The alternative is that he is <i>not</i> friendly.
<b>ADDED:</b> Concerns the above -
<!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Mar 20 2009, 05:58 PM-->QUOTE(Bodhi @ Mar 20 2009, 05:58 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->some supposed eviction of some sikh person from a rally, for unspecified reason, by unspecified actors, in a story run only by CNN-IBN, only once, in a vague language reminding one of their Gujarat style, and then copied pasted by their cousins, but not taken up by any sober media outlet.[right][snapback]95657[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"Varun nahin yeh aandhi hai, doosra Sanjay Gandhi hai (Varun Gandhi is like a storm, he is another Sanjay Gandhi)".<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Sounds about right.
Also, only KKKangressis, KKKristos and their outlets like NDTV keep misusing Shri Rama's name with threats. E.g. the "Sri Ram Sena" operation they cooked up in Karnataka, KKKristo Danny Boyle with his Slumdog movie, Americans textbooks on some Indian 'song' about Rama mentioning islam <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo--> see below
http://www.hinduwisdom.info/FirstIndologists.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Many have complained that the workbook developed by Susan Wadley depicts Lord Ram as an invading-outsider, imperialist, oppressor, misogynist, and a racist and that the workbook sounds more like the rant of an over zealous racist than that of an âobjectiveâ and âneutralâ scholar.
[...]
The âsongâ that the letter refers to is in worksheet 2 of the course material and instructs the students to âRead this song sung by an untouchable in north India.â Some lines from the song have been reproduced below:
<i>âOnce the Aryans on their horses invaded this land.
Then we who are the natives became the displaced.
Oh Rama, Oh Rama, You became the God and we the demons.
You portrayed our Hanuman as a monkey,
Oh Rama, you representative of the Aryans.
Muslims were targeted and "taught a lesson".
To destroy Lanka, Oh Rama, you
Formed us into a monkey army.
And today you want us,
The working majority,
To form a new monkey army
And attack Muslims.â</i><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->^ Sounds like more christoterrorist invention along the lines of the christian propaganda that the catholic Danny Boyle spun.
Whereas:
http://www.hinduwisdom.info/aryan_invasion_theory.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->And the great epic Ramayana has a singularly eloquent expression describing Rama as:Â Â Â Â Â
arya sarva samascaiva sadaiva priyadarsanah - Arya, who worked for the equality of all and was dear to everyone. The Rig Veda also uses the word Arya something like thirty six times, but never to mean a race. The nearest to a definition that one can find in the Rigveda is probably: Â
praja arya jyotiragrah ...
Children of Arya are led by light - Rig Veda VII. 33.17.
Thus, the modern notion of an Aryan-Dravidian racial divide is contradicted by ancient records. We have it on the authority of Manu that the Dravidians were also part of the Aryan fold. Interestingly, so were the Chinese. Race never had anything to do with it until the Europeans adopted the ancient word to give expression to their nationalistic and other aspirations.
Please refer to Naimisha Journal for interesting articles on Aryan Invasion Theory).
Sir Aurobindo (1872-1950) most original philosopher of modern India. He has said: "It distresses us to see Indian inquirers with their great opportunities simply following in the path of certain European scholars, accepting and adding to their unstable fantasies, their huge superstructures founded on weak and scattered evidence and their imaginative "history of our prehistoric ages."
(source: India's Rebirth - Sri Aurobindo p. 110-111).
The term 'aryan' has never been used in a racial sense anywhere in the vast compendium of Hindu literature. In the whole of the Rig Veda the word arya occurs no more than four times. It stands for whatever is regarded as eminent and ennobling. The term was used in a racial sense for the first time by Western historians who cooked up the theory of an Aryan invasion of India around 1500 B.C. They also popularized in a racial sense, the term Dravidian which had earlier had only a linguistic connotation.
(source: Story of Islamic Imperialism in India - By Sita Ram Goel Voice of India ISBN : 81-85990-23-9Â p. 8).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
My question stands. How is Feroze Varun Gandhi a Hindu? What good (things of use) has he done for Hindu Dharma? What <i>actions of benefit</i>.
Because to me, this defamation of Hindus, Hindu Dharma, Gita and Rama (by threatening in their name) seems more like KKKangressiness. Trying to infiltrate and cause ruin rather than anything else. I could be wrong. But I see nothing in Varun's behaviour to make me think otherwise.
Why do Hindus automatically believe that anyone who declares themselves to be a Hindu is a Hindu? Has anyone seen any productive action - one that benefits Hindu Dharma - from Feroze Varun? Or is all this boasting and threatening and slandering of our side the sum total of his achievements?
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The 70-year-old Sikh from Ramnagar village was even asked to leave one of the Hindu meets being addressed by Varun.
"He neither has respect for any other religion nor even for elders. In his arrogance, he has gone to the extent of forgetting that his mother was also a Sikh before her marriage," Gurudial said.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->His dad Sanjay Gandhi was islamic, wasn't he (or am I getting the various Goondas mixed up)? <b>ADDED:</b> Well, here is Bodhi referring to Sanjay's islamism, so maybe I didn't get it completely wrong.
And his mother Maneka a Sikh according to the above. Yet Varun obviously thinks Sikhs are not Hindu since he sent this elderly Sikh person packing.
Where does this Varun get his 'Hindu' identity from (if he doesn't think his Sikh mother is a Hindu either on account of her being Sikh)? Or is his 'Hinduness' a 'self-discovery' he has made to help the KKKangress by scaring Hindus off voting BJP (and scaring off other BJP members) through his KKKangressi rhetoric? I mean, with friends like this who needs enemies? The alternative is that he is <i>not</i> friendly.
<b>ADDED:</b> Concerns the above -
<!--QuoteBegin-Bodhi+Mar 20 2009, 05:58 PM-->QUOTE(Bodhi @ Mar 20 2009, 05:58 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->some supposed eviction of some sikh person from a rally, for unspecified reason, by unspecified actors, in a story run only by CNN-IBN, only once, in a vague language reminding one of their Gujarat style, and then copied pasted by their cousins, but not taken up by any sober media outlet.[right][snapback]95657[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"Varun nahin yeh aandhi hai, doosra Sanjay Gandhi hai (Varun Gandhi is like a storm, he is another Sanjay Gandhi)".<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->Sounds about right.
Also, only KKKangressis, KKKristos and their outlets like NDTV keep misusing Shri Rama's name with threats. E.g. the "Sri Ram Sena" operation they cooked up in Karnataka, KKKristo Danny Boyle with his Slumdog movie, Americans textbooks on some Indian 'song' about Rama mentioning islam <!--emo&:blink:--><img src='style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blink.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='blink.gif' /><!--endemo--> see below
http://www.hinduwisdom.info/FirstIndologists.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Many have complained that the workbook developed by Susan Wadley depicts Lord Ram as an invading-outsider, imperialist, oppressor, misogynist, and a racist and that the workbook sounds more like the rant of an over zealous racist than that of an âobjectiveâ and âneutralâ scholar.
[...]
The âsongâ that the letter refers to is in worksheet 2 of the course material and instructs the students to âRead this song sung by an untouchable in north India.â Some lines from the song have been reproduced below:
<i>âOnce the Aryans on their horses invaded this land.
Then we who are the natives became the displaced.
Oh Rama, Oh Rama, You became the God and we the demons.
You portrayed our Hanuman as a monkey,
Oh Rama, you representative of the Aryans.
Muslims were targeted and "taught a lesson".
To destroy Lanka, Oh Rama, you
Formed us into a monkey army.
And today you want us,
The working majority,
To form a new monkey army
And attack Muslims.â</i><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->^ Sounds like more christoterrorist invention along the lines of the christian propaganda that the catholic Danny Boyle spun.
Whereas:
http://www.hinduwisdom.info/aryan_invasion_theory.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->And the great epic Ramayana has a singularly eloquent expression describing Rama as:Â Â Â Â Â
arya sarva samascaiva sadaiva priyadarsanah - Arya, who worked for the equality of all and was dear to everyone. The Rig Veda also uses the word Arya something like thirty six times, but never to mean a race. The nearest to a definition that one can find in the Rigveda is probably: Â
praja arya jyotiragrah ...
Children of Arya are led by light - Rig Veda VII. 33.17.
Thus, the modern notion of an Aryan-Dravidian racial divide is contradicted by ancient records. We have it on the authority of Manu that the Dravidians were also part of the Aryan fold. Interestingly, so were the Chinese. Race never had anything to do with it until the Europeans adopted the ancient word to give expression to their nationalistic and other aspirations.
Please refer to Naimisha Journal for interesting articles on Aryan Invasion Theory).
Sir Aurobindo (1872-1950) most original philosopher of modern India. He has said: "It distresses us to see Indian inquirers with their great opportunities simply following in the path of certain European scholars, accepting and adding to their unstable fantasies, their huge superstructures founded on weak and scattered evidence and their imaginative "history of our prehistoric ages."
(source: India's Rebirth - Sri Aurobindo p. 110-111).
The term 'aryan' has never been used in a racial sense anywhere in the vast compendium of Hindu literature. In the whole of the Rig Veda the word arya occurs no more than four times. It stands for whatever is regarded as eminent and ennobling. The term was used in a racial sense for the first time by Western historians who cooked up the theory of an Aryan invasion of India around 1500 B.C. They also popularized in a racial sense, the term Dravidian which had earlier had only a linguistic connotation.
(source: Story of Islamic Imperialism in India - By Sita Ram Goel Voice of India ISBN : 81-85990-23-9Â p. 8).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
My question stands. How is Feroze Varun Gandhi a Hindu? What good (things of use) has he done for Hindu Dharma? What <i>actions of benefit</i>.
Because to me, this defamation of Hindus, Hindu Dharma, Gita and Rama (by threatening in their name) seems more like KKKangressiness. Trying to infiltrate and cause ruin rather than anything else. I could be wrong. But I see nothing in Varun's behaviour to make me think otherwise.
Why do Hindus automatically believe that anyone who declares themselves to be a Hindu is a Hindu? Has anyone seen any productive action - one that benefits Hindu Dharma - from Feroze Varun? Or is all this boasting and threatening and slandering of our side the sum total of his achievements?