04-07-2009, 04:16 AM
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âI would not say Gandhi was in the âpayâ of the British.â
It is not necessary to pay a leader money to raise his profile or use him to achieve oneâs strategic objectives.
Do you know who Gandhi was surrounded with at Tolstoy Farm in South Africa and who arranged for his marches and publicity and gave him guidance? They were all White missionaries and church-men. They surrounded him at all times and lived with him.
After 1857, the Brits got a fright and wanted the revolt never to be repeated again. In fact so deep was this fear that Gen. Dyer confessed after Jallianwalah Bagh that he thought there was a conspiracy in Punjab for a 1857 type revolt and he wanted to teach Indians a bloody lesson to nip it in the bud.
The Brits desperately needed a leader of Indians with the central message of pacifism, non-violence against the invaders and the philosophy of ânever pick up arms again even if the Brits kill you all.â
Gandhi was aggressively propped up and promoted by missionaries and Genernal Smuts. General Smuts âagreedâ to Gandhiâs demands, thus tremendously boosting his name in India. Nobody had heard of Gandhi before. This act of Smuts spread his fame far and wide as a man who can get the British government to bend. It is a different matter that the âbendingâ was deliberate.
Strategically, to make a show, the British government in South Africa and India sometimes bowed to Gandhiâs wishes to âproveâ the effectiveness of his method of non-violence and impress other Indians. It was just a show to promote Gandhi as Indiaâs tallest leader. Notice how when Gandhi arrived in India, how British government kept bowing before him in all his agitations and conceded what he had demanded.
In contrast, the Brits were brutal with nationalist Hindus such as Savarkar and Subhash Bose and simply refused to meet them, while all doors were kept open for Gandhi. Gradually, Indians began to rally behind Gandhi as the âleader who gets the work done.â
Historians should do serious research about this angle of Gandhi as a British creation and prop. Unfortunately, even after 60 years, British intelligence reports and personal files about Gandhi and Nehru are still classified by the British government. Nobody can have access to them.
The Britisherâs propping up of Gandhi had a precedent for the Brits. They knew how the Romans circulated the fable of Jesus Christ among the restive Jews under their occupation and â what a coincidence â Jesusâs message was exactly similar to Gandhiâs with respect to the invaders â âturn the other cheekâ and âGive unto Ceasear what belongs to Ceaser.â It is not a coincidence that in the entire Bible, there is not one derogatory reference to the Romans. But the Jews are abused and cursed all through, with calls for thier genocide. By convering jews to christianity, the Romans managed to create an indegenous militia against the Jews. (same thing that the church is now doing in Orissa. It converts tribals and turns them into an armed militia against the Hindus.)
Have you heard of a book called âCeaserâs Messiahâ?
Here it is: http://www.caesarsmessiah.com/main.html
It tells you why and how Romans invented the cult of Jesus and spread it among the Jews. The Jews who converted to Christianity immediately became the biggest defenders of the Roman empire and enemies of Jews who were resisting the Roman rule.
This is because worship of Jesus is nothing but worship of Ceaser by proxy. The Jews became hunted in Christian socieites becasue the blame of âkilling Christâ was cleverly laid on their door. For 2000 years, they were forced to live in ghettos on the periphery of Christian societies. I would say the Romans succeeded brilliantly in their plan of screwing the Jews and creating a rival cult to exterminate them. (Why risk roman soliders in killing jews when you can outsource the job to the converted jews.)
The Brits took a leaf from the Roman book and tried to create Indiaâs own Jesus with the same message of âturn the other cheekâ and ânever pick up arms against the occupation army.â
I can say that Gandhiâs creation and promotion by Brits was the biggest psyops operation of modern times.
See here the video of interview of Joseph Atwill who wrote âCeaserâs Messiah.â It is an eye-opener.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSIzJWgp4vI
It is not a coincidence that a leader preaching non-violence arose in India within 25 years of the revolt of 1857.
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âI would not say Gandhi was in the âpayâ of the British.â
It is not necessary to pay a leader money to raise his profile or use him to achieve oneâs strategic objectives.
Do you know who Gandhi was surrounded with at Tolstoy Farm in South Africa and who arranged for his marches and publicity and gave him guidance? They were all White missionaries and church-men. They surrounded him at all times and lived with him.
After 1857, the Brits got a fright and wanted the revolt never to be repeated again. In fact so deep was this fear that Gen. Dyer confessed after Jallianwalah Bagh that he thought there was a conspiracy in Punjab for a 1857 type revolt and he wanted to teach Indians a bloody lesson to nip it in the bud.
The Brits desperately needed a leader of Indians with the central message of pacifism, non-violence against the invaders and the philosophy of ânever pick up arms again even if the Brits kill you all.â
Gandhi was aggressively propped up and promoted by missionaries and Genernal Smuts. General Smuts âagreedâ to Gandhiâs demands, thus tremendously boosting his name in India. Nobody had heard of Gandhi before. This act of Smuts spread his fame far and wide as a man who can get the British government to bend. It is a different matter that the âbendingâ was deliberate.
Strategically, to make a show, the British government in South Africa and India sometimes bowed to Gandhiâs wishes to âproveâ the effectiveness of his method of non-violence and impress other Indians. It was just a show to promote Gandhi as Indiaâs tallest leader. Notice how when Gandhi arrived in India, how British government kept bowing before him in all his agitations and conceded what he had demanded.
In contrast, the Brits were brutal with nationalist Hindus such as Savarkar and Subhash Bose and simply refused to meet them, while all doors were kept open for Gandhi. Gradually, Indians began to rally behind Gandhi as the âleader who gets the work done.â
Historians should do serious research about this angle of Gandhi as a British creation and prop. Unfortunately, even after 60 years, British intelligence reports and personal files about Gandhi and Nehru are still classified by the British government. Nobody can have access to them.
The Britisherâs propping up of Gandhi had a precedent for the Brits. They knew how the Romans circulated the fable of Jesus Christ among the restive Jews under their occupation and â what a coincidence â Jesusâs message was exactly similar to Gandhiâs with respect to the invaders â âturn the other cheekâ and âGive unto Ceasear what belongs to Ceaser.â It is not a coincidence that in the entire Bible, there is not one derogatory reference to the Romans. But the Jews are abused and cursed all through, with calls for thier genocide. By convering jews to christianity, the Romans managed to create an indegenous militia against the Jews. (same thing that the church is now doing in Orissa. It converts tribals and turns them into an armed militia against the Hindus.)
Have you heard of a book called âCeaserâs Messiahâ?
Here it is: http://www.caesarsmessiah.com/main.html
It tells you why and how Romans invented the cult of Jesus and spread it among the Jews. The Jews who converted to Christianity immediately became the biggest defenders of the Roman empire and enemies of Jews who were resisting the Roman rule.
This is because worship of Jesus is nothing but worship of Ceaser by proxy. The Jews became hunted in Christian socieites becasue the blame of âkilling Christâ was cleverly laid on their door. For 2000 years, they were forced to live in ghettos on the periphery of Christian societies. I would say the Romans succeeded brilliantly in their plan of screwing the Jews and creating a rival cult to exterminate them. (Why risk roman soliders in killing jews when you can outsource the job to the converted jews.)
The Brits took a leaf from the Roman book and tried to create Indiaâs own Jesus with the same message of âturn the other cheekâ and ânever pick up arms against the occupation army.â
I can say that Gandhiâs creation and promotion by Brits was the biggest psyops operation of modern times.
See here the video of interview of Joseph Atwill who wrote âCeaserâs Messiah.â It is an eye-opener.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSIzJWgp4vI
It is not a coincidence that a leader preaching non-violence arose in India within 25 years of the revolt of 1857.
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