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1. News from 2003, but funny and very curious nevertheless:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Belgian priests on voters' list</b>
Posted July 22, 2003
Author: Rudra Biswas
Publication: The Telegraph
Date: June 24, 2003
URL: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1030624/asp/...ory_2097439.asp
The Gumla district administration has ordered <b>an inquiry to find out how the names of at least two foreigners, both Jesuit priests, have been figuring in the state voters' list since 1995.</b>
The inquiry comes at a time when the state home department has issued stern directives to the police superintendents of the 22 districts to locate all foreigners illegally staying or settled in their respective areas of jurisdiction. The home directive lays down that emphasis should be given to locating all illegal Bangladeshi and Pakistani nationals located in the state.
Gumla subdivisional officer Praveen Shankar said directives have been issued to district circle officer K.K. Rajhans to conduct a thorough probe as to <b>how voters' identity cards have been issued to two Belgian Jesuit priests who have reportedly not acquired Indian citizenship.</b>
The two Belgian priests have been identified as Fr P.P. Banphal, retired headmaster of St Ignatius High School, Gumla, and director of a local NGO called AROUSE, and Fr Mark Debrawer, head of Gram Uthan, another NGO. Both the two priests are settled in Gumla.
"My orders are based not on any home department orders, but on reports that the names of the two Jesuit priests have somehow crept into the state voters' list. As an SDO, I am fully competent to conduct an inquiry under the Representation of the People Act," the Gumla SDO said.
Shankar said notices were being issued to the two foreign nationals to appear before him in person and to explain their case to him.
"Both the two Jesuit priests have a right to be heard as part of natural justice before any punitive or other action is initiated against them", he added.
Shankar conceded that the Gumla circle officer (CO) has already carried out preliminary inquiries in the matter and has submitted a report to him.
Refusing to divulge any information in the matter during the pendency of inquiry proceedings, Shankar said the circle officer's report was "defective and incomplete "in many respects and that a thorough probe, as per rules was required.
"Voters identity card is a citizen's card issued exclusively to Indian citizens. Foreigners are entitled to such cards only after they acquire Indian citizenship. Wrongful representation is punishable with one year' s imprisonment," the Gumla subdivisional officer said. Â <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Old stuff already posted in media thread; reposting here for the links to the sources of the facts and for harping on one other thing (at the end). First:
2. this post and prior by Dhu, HH and Rudradev on Amartya Sen:
- his wife being some dubious person called Rothschild and
- his christian anti-Hindu girlfriend (who hides behind her Jewish ex-husband's surname) Martha Nussbaum.
3. <!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Jan 14 2009, 02:30 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Jan 14 2009, 02:30 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->1. <b>N. Ram has been editor-in-chief of The Hindu since June 27, 2003</b>, and also heads other publications of The Hindu Group such as Frontline, The Hindu Business Line and Sportstar.
Both of his marriages have been to a christian (Irish and Kerala christian), which shows it must be a religious preference on his part. He also attended a Catholic Bishops Conference:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narasimhan_Ram
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"Personal life
Ram's first wife Susan was an Irish woman who was for many years in charge of Oxford University press publications in India. As a husband and wife team, both published the first volume of a biography on R.K.Narayan, the eminent Indian writer. Their daughter Vidya Ram is a budding journalist. Now Ram is married to a Kerala Christian called Mariam."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayAr...spx?id=338
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Indian Judiciary: Odd as the new normal</b>
Sandhya Jain
13 Jan 2009
[...]
<b>The Hindu is a curious newspaper; its Editor in Chief, N. Ram</b>, an unusual journalist. Supposedly a card-carrying member of the Communist Party of India (Marxist), he <b>attended a closed-door meeting of the Catholic Bishops Conference of India</b> along with a correspondent of a television channel some years ago. While his personal religious affiliation, if any, is unknown, his first and second wives are both Christian.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->[right][snapback]93175[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why the above is <i>not insignificant</i>:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080115233445/...line/calvi4.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->INDICTMENTS IN CALVI MURDER FOCUS LIGHT ON VATICAN BANK SCANDAL, FASCIST & MOB LINKS, GLOBAL AGENDA
Web Posted: June 6, 2005
[...]
<b>The Vatican through its legal entity, The Holy See</b>, remains unique among the world's religious movements in that it is considered both a nation state and sect. It enjoys official diplomatic relations with over 180 governments including the United States, maintains a growing network of diplomatic missions (which supposedly account for much of the Vatican's "red ink") and is an active "observer" at the United Nations and international NGO events. <b>In the U.S., this dual status has raised questions of whether entities like the National Conference of Catholic Bishops are, in fact, operating under the instructions of another "government," and should thus register under the Foreign Agents Act.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> And
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/03/mil...gs-creates.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->narayan said...
  Rajeev did not know where to post this news. Please post it on your main blog page. Last time in 2004 also the <b>bishops conference</b> asked all Christians to vote for congress.
  http://www.hindu.com/2009/03/14/stories/...130200.htm
  3/13/2009 12:54 PM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->(This last - was it a Catholic or protestant conference?)
4. Older news but to do with christianism trying to guide governance:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Jharkhand's Christian minister opposes anti-conversion bill</b>
Posted December 30, 2005
webindia123.com
Ranchi IANS
December 13, 2005 2:15:07 PM IST
Enos Ekka, Jharkhand's lone Christian minister, has reacted sharply to the proposed Anti-Conversion Bill announced by Chief Minister Arjun Munda.
Addressing a tribal rally on Sunday, Munda had announced he would bring legislation to ban conversion in the state to protect tribal culture and identity. Most of the independent legislators supported the announcement but Ekka, also an independent legislator, issued a statement opposing such a bill.
"I do not feel it is appropriate to introduce such a bill. In a secular country like India everyone has the right to live on the call of his conscience. If anybody wants to change his religion willingly he should not be prevented from doing so," Ekka's press statement said Monday.
"People should not be bound by any law. We supported the government on the condition that no different attitude will be adopted towards Christians and Muslims."
Ekka is one of the five independents supporting the Bharatiya Janata Party-led government. The five independents are known as G-5. Later one more independent supported the government. But two of the G-5 ministers, Madhu Koda, who is a tribal, and Chandra Prakash Chaudhary have already supported Munda's announcement.
Reacting to the statement of Ekka, Chaudhary told reporters: "Ekka is a Christian and it is natural that he will oppose such a bill. But we are in favour that forceful conversion through alluring people is wrong."
Christians number four percent of the state's total population of 26.91 million. Christian missionaries are active in most parts of the state, especially in tribal dominated areas where large-scale conversions are taking place. Tribals constitute 27 percent of the state's population. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->When only 4%, they try to call the shots. And when christianism starts making up a larger proportion of the populace, Dharmics begin to die.
1. News from 2003, but funny and very curious nevertheless:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Belgian priests on voters' list</b>
Posted July 22, 2003
Author: Rudra Biswas
Publication: The Telegraph
Date: June 24, 2003
URL: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1030624/asp/...ory_2097439.asp
The Gumla district administration has ordered <b>an inquiry to find out how the names of at least two foreigners, both Jesuit priests, have been figuring in the state voters' list since 1995.</b>
The inquiry comes at a time when the state home department has issued stern directives to the police superintendents of the 22 districts to locate all foreigners illegally staying or settled in their respective areas of jurisdiction. The home directive lays down that emphasis should be given to locating all illegal Bangladeshi and Pakistani nationals located in the state.
Gumla subdivisional officer Praveen Shankar said directives have been issued to district circle officer K.K. Rajhans to conduct a thorough probe as to <b>how voters' identity cards have been issued to two Belgian Jesuit priests who have reportedly not acquired Indian citizenship.</b>
The two Belgian priests have been identified as Fr P.P. Banphal, retired headmaster of St Ignatius High School, Gumla, and director of a local NGO called AROUSE, and Fr Mark Debrawer, head of Gram Uthan, another NGO. Both the two priests are settled in Gumla.
"My orders are based not on any home department orders, but on reports that the names of the two Jesuit priests have somehow crept into the state voters' list. As an SDO, I am fully competent to conduct an inquiry under the Representation of the People Act," the Gumla SDO said.
Shankar said notices were being issued to the two foreign nationals to appear before him in person and to explain their case to him.
"Both the two Jesuit priests have a right to be heard as part of natural justice before any punitive or other action is initiated against them", he added.
Shankar conceded that the Gumla circle officer (CO) has already carried out preliminary inquiries in the matter and has submitted a report to him.
Refusing to divulge any information in the matter during the pendency of inquiry proceedings, Shankar said the circle officer's report was "defective and incomplete "in many respects and that a thorough probe, as per rules was required.
"Voters identity card is a citizen's card issued exclusively to Indian citizens. Foreigners are entitled to such cards only after they acquire Indian citizenship. Wrongful representation is punishable with one year' s imprisonment," the Gumla subdivisional officer said. Â <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Old stuff already posted in media thread; reposting here for the links to the sources of the facts and for harping on one other thing (at the end). First:
2. this post and prior by Dhu, HH and Rudradev on Amartya Sen:
- his wife being some dubious person called Rothschild and
- his christian anti-Hindu girlfriend (who hides behind her Jewish ex-husband's surname) Martha Nussbaum.
3. <!--QuoteBegin-Husky+Jan 14 2009, 02:30 PM-->QUOTE(Husky @ Jan 14 2009, 02:30 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->1. <b>N. Ram has been editor-in-chief of The Hindu since June 27, 2003</b>, and also heads other publications of The Hindu Group such as Frontline, The Hindu Business Line and Sportstar.
Both of his marriages have been to a christian (Irish and Kerala christian), which shows it must be a religious preference on his part. He also attended a Catholic Bishops Conference:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narasimhan_Ram
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"Personal life
Ram's first wife Susan was an Irish woman who was for many years in charge of Oxford University press publications in India. As a husband and wife team, both published the first volume of a biography on R.K.Narayan, the eminent Indian writer. Their daughter Vidya Ram is a budding journalist. Now Ram is married to a Kerala Christian called Mariam."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
http://vijayvaani.com/FrmPublicDisplayAr...spx?id=338
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Indian Judiciary: Odd as the new normal</b>
Sandhya Jain
13 Jan 2009
[...]
<b>The Hindu is a curious newspaper; its Editor in Chief, N. Ram</b>, an unusual journalist. Supposedly a card-carrying member of the Communist Party of India (Marxist), he <b>attended a closed-door meeting of the Catholic Bishops Conference of India</b> along with a correspondent of a television channel some years ago. While his personal religious affiliation, if any, is unknown, his first and second wives are both Christian.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->[right][snapback]93175[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why the above is <i>not insignificant</i>:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080115233445/...line/calvi4.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->INDICTMENTS IN CALVI MURDER FOCUS LIGHT ON VATICAN BANK SCANDAL, FASCIST & MOB LINKS, GLOBAL AGENDA
Web Posted: June 6, 2005
[...]
<b>The Vatican through its legal entity, The Holy See</b>, remains unique among the world's religious movements in that it is considered both a nation state and sect. It enjoys official diplomatic relations with over 180 governments including the United States, maintains a growing network of diplomatic missions (which supposedly account for much of the Vatican's "red ink") and is an active "observer" at the United Nations and international NGO events. <b>In the U.S., this dual status has raised questions of whether entities like the National Conference of Catholic Bishops are, in fact, operating under the instructions of another "government," and should thus register under the Foreign Agents Act.</b><!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> And
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/03/mil...gs-creates.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->narayan said...
  Rajeev did not know where to post this news. Please post it on your main blog page. Last time in 2004 also the <b>bishops conference</b> asked all Christians to vote for congress.
  http://www.hindu.com/2009/03/14/stories/...130200.htm
  3/13/2009 12:54 PM<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->(This last - was it a Catholic or protestant conference?)
4. Older news but to do with christianism trying to guide governance:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Jharkhand's Christian minister opposes anti-conversion bill</b>
Posted December 30, 2005
webindia123.com
Ranchi IANS
December 13, 2005 2:15:07 PM IST
Enos Ekka, Jharkhand's lone Christian minister, has reacted sharply to the proposed Anti-Conversion Bill announced by Chief Minister Arjun Munda.
Addressing a tribal rally on Sunday, Munda had announced he would bring legislation to ban conversion in the state to protect tribal culture and identity. Most of the independent legislators supported the announcement but Ekka, also an independent legislator, issued a statement opposing such a bill.
"I do not feel it is appropriate to introduce such a bill. In a secular country like India everyone has the right to live on the call of his conscience. If anybody wants to change his religion willingly he should not be prevented from doing so," Ekka's press statement said Monday.
"People should not be bound by any law. We supported the government on the condition that no different attitude will be adopted towards Christians and Muslims."
Ekka is one of the five independents supporting the Bharatiya Janata Party-led government. The five independents are known as G-5. Later one more independent supported the government. But two of the G-5 ministers, Madhu Koda, who is a tribal, and Chandra Prakash Chaudhary have already supported Munda's announcement.
Reacting to the statement of Ekka, Chaudhary told reporters: "Ekka is a Christian and it is natural that he will oppose such a bill. But we are in favour that forceful conversion through alluring people is wrong."
Christians number four percent of the state's total population of 26.91 million. Christian missionaries are active in most parts of the state, especially in tribal dominated areas where large-scale conversions are taking place. Tribals constitute 27 percent of the state's population. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->When only 4%, they try to call the shots. And when christianism starts making up a larger proportion of the populace, Dharmics begin to die.