05-23-2009, 01:33 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-ramana+Apr 15 2009, 03:35 AM-->QUOTE(ramana @ Apr 15 2009, 03:35 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->So the Persian weapon against the Greeks was turned on themselves!
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"Now when John [Jonathan] had departed this life, his son Jaddua succeeded in the high priesthood" (Book XI, Chapter VII, Paragraph 2).... <b>Now Alexander [the Great], when he had taken Gaza [332/331 B.C.], made haste to go up to Jerusalem; and Jaddua the high priest, when he heard that, was in an agony, and under terror, as not knowing how he should meet the Macedonians, since the king was displeased at his foregoing disobedience.... And when he [Jaddua] understood that he [Alexander] was not far from the city, he [Jaddua] went out in procession, with the priests and the multitude of the citizens. The procession was venerable, and the manner of it different from that of other nations.... </b>And when the Book of Daniel was showed him [Alexander], wherein Daniel declared that one of the Greeks should destroy the empire of the Persians, he [Alexander] supposed that himself was the person intended" (Antiquities of the Jews, Book XI, Chapter VIII, Paragraphs 4 and 5).
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My ref was to the Persianization of the Jews to take on the Hellenes or the Greeks during the exile period. Here the priest re-strengthened Alexander's resolve to take on the Persians. I think this is a turning point in the Hellenization or Westernization of the jews. In a way it paved the way for future Hellenization of Christians.
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and Joseph Yahuda says:
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This whole matter is, in practice, consistent with the following two proposals: <b>Biblical Hebrew is Greek; and, the Jews are Asian Greeks</b>. In reality, the conclusion of this massive, extended and complicated research can be summarized in the following brief sentence: <b>Hebrew is âGreek wearing a mask.â</b>â
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Would this explain the Jewish Priest's actions wrt Alexander? How does Yahuda's conclusions alter the Hellenization of Jews? Was there a severe loss o f memory in the Egyptian captivity? Or the Septugint was latter write up using Greek as that was the lingu franca of the times? And maybe the Persians captured the Jews and took them away as they were aware of the link to Greece?
When did the Persians capture the Jews from Babylon?
Were the Greek city states already in existence and in opposition to the Persians?
Where did the Greek come from in the Mediterranean?
<!--QuoteBegin--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->"Now when John [Jonathan] had departed this life, his son Jaddua succeeded in the high priesthood" (Book XI, Chapter VII, Paragraph 2).... <b>Now Alexander [the Great], when he had taken Gaza [332/331 B.C.], made haste to go up to Jerusalem; and Jaddua the high priest, when he heard that, was in an agony, and under terror, as not knowing how he should meet the Macedonians, since the king was displeased at his foregoing disobedience.... And when he [Jaddua] understood that he [Alexander] was not far from the city, he [Jaddua] went out in procession, with the priests and the multitude of the citizens. The procession was venerable, and the manner of it different from that of other nations.... </b>And when the Book of Daniel was showed him [Alexander], wherein Daniel declared that one of the Greeks should destroy the empire of the Persians, he [Alexander] supposed that himself was the person intended" (Antiquities of the Jews, Book XI, Chapter VIII, Paragraphs 4 and 5).
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My ref was to the Persianization of the Jews to take on the Hellenes or the Greeks during the exile period. Here the priest re-strengthened Alexander's resolve to take on the Persians. I think this is a turning point in the Hellenization or Westernization of the jews. In a way it paved the way for future Hellenization of Christians.
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and Joseph Yahuda says:
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This whole matter is, in practice, consistent with the following two proposals: <b>Biblical Hebrew is Greek; and, the Jews are Asian Greeks</b>. In reality, the conclusion of this massive, extended and complicated research can be summarized in the following brief sentence: <b>Hebrew is âGreek wearing a mask.â</b>â
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Would this explain the Jewish Priest's actions wrt Alexander? How does Yahuda's conclusions alter the Hellenization of Jews? Was there a severe loss o f memory in the Egyptian captivity? Or the Septugint was latter write up using Greek as that was the lingu franca of the times? And maybe the Persians captured the Jews and took them away as they were aware of the link to Greece?
When did the Persians capture the Jews from Babylon?
Were the Greek city states already in existence and in opposition to the Persians?
Where did the Greek come from in the Mediterranean?