01-13-2005, 12:16 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->4. there is no instrinsic evil in the world - all that happens is for the ultimate good. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
A little wisdom is very dangerous. At the highest level of Nirguna Brahman there is no evil. But in this world of mAyA where we are, it is there everywhere, opposing the good. If you start mixing up the levels, then you become the tool of the evil. It suits evil just fine if people start saying 'there is no evil' People not seated in the highest consciousness, but trying to practice 'there is no evil' cause a lot of harm all around. They are open to justifying any wrong, any perversion if it suits them.
I have personally been at the recieving end of a 'I see no evil' person. That person also thought egotistically that she was a highly evolved soul. This egotism, combined with her conviction that she is spiritually very advanced, wreaked a lot of pain all around when she started seeing no evil in untruth, manipulation and moral relativism.
Now I know what is the source of your moral relativism. Nothing is evil according to you, phew. Then why do you get worked up over brahmin caste discrimination. According to your wisdom, it can't be evil. So stop critcizing anything. Nothing is evil, right! Devil will be mighty pleased if people fell for this.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Our hands are full with caste discrimination, poverty and now this tsunami thang.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What happened?? I thought 'caste descrimination' wasn't evil according to your wisdom.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Ashok, I dont think there has been a blatant abuse of power and the justice system. It clearly shows now that the system is slow, but working.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sophistry again! The police are under Jayalalitha, people in Tamilnadu are afraid of her autocratic ways, including DMK. It is the supreme court that has given the relief not the police-politician-judiciary apparatus of Tamilnadu. The part of the system that worked was supreme court. It doesn't absolve other parts of their blame. If you refuse to acknowledge the abuse you are siding with it.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The SC has not agreed anything, except that bail cannot be denied, which is the right thing to do. Nothing more to read into this.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Again sophistry! Read SC judgement carefully.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Why dont you see the kanchi sampradaya as just another Hindu sampradaya, one of hundreds, and whether it lives or not does not make the big Hindu picture change! I give it a 0.04% influence on Hinduism, just no more importance than any one of those beachside Hindu temples washed away by the tsunami. Even Adi Shankara in just a grain of sand on a long beach of a galaxy of Hindu saints and sages. Why dont you see this view?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Whatever doubts I had about you have been removed. You would cook up anything to 'justify' whever happens to be convenient for you. Bhandasura would be proud. It is sickening that you see an opportunity for yourself in destruction of Hinduism even by 0.04% (sic).
Even if each saint is just a grain of sand, so what!! Why should one lessen the reverence for them?
Since you see someone of Adi-Shamkara's high stature as a 'grain of sand', you must feel that you are a mountain yourself! You need an ego-treatment fast.... Read saptashatI or lalitopakhyanam to find out how demons think about parA-shakti herself.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Siddha.com.my serves as an entry portal to saivism for non-Indians. The Iskcon and Bochasanwasi websites serves as an entry portal for vaishnavism. If you are a Sakta, why dont you start one for Saktism, Ashok. Make it mirror mine. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No thank you. I don't have any desire to help inflate others' egos or mine. But just for the record, I am not really inspired by siddha.com site.
A little wisdom is very dangerous. At the highest level of Nirguna Brahman there is no evil. But in this world of mAyA where we are, it is there everywhere, opposing the good. If you start mixing up the levels, then you become the tool of the evil. It suits evil just fine if people start saying 'there is no evil' People not seated in the highest consciousness, but trying to practice 'there is no evil' cause a lot of harm all around. They are open to justifying any wrong, any perversion if it suits them.
I have personally been at the recieving end of a 'I see no evil' person. That person also thought egotistically that she was a highly evolved soul. This egotism, combined with her conviction that she is spiritually very advanced, wreaked a lot of pain all around when she started seeing no evil in untruth, manipulation and moral relativism.
Now I know what is the source of your moral relativism. Nothing is evil according to you, phew. Then why do you get worked up over brahmin caste discrimination. According to your wisdom, it can't be evil. So stop critcizing anything. Nothing is evil, right! Devil will be mighty pleased if people fell for this.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Our hands are full with caste discrimination, poverty and now this tsunami thang.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
What happened?? I thought 'caste descrimination' wasn't evil according to your wisdom.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Ashok, I dont think there has been a blatant abuse of power and the justice system. It clearly shows now that the system is slow, but working.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sophistry again! The police are under Jayalalitha, people in Tamilnadu are afraid of her autocratic ways, including DMK. It is the supreme court that has given the relief not the police-politician-judiciary apparatus of Tamilnadu. The part of the system that worked was supreme court. It doesn't absolve other parts of their blame. If you refuse to acknowledge the abuse you are siding with it.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The SC has not agreed anything, except that bail cannot be denied, which is the right thing to do. Nothing more to read into this.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Again sophistry! Read SC judgement carefully.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Why dont you see the kanchi sampradaya as just another Hindu sampradaya, one of hundreds, and whether it lives or not does not make the big Hindu picture change! I give it a 0.04% influence on Hinduism, just no more importance than any one of those beachside Hindu temples washed away by the tsunami. Even Adi Shankara in just a grain of sand on a long beach of a galaxy of Hindu saints and sages. Why dont you see this view?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Whatever doubts I had about you have been removed. You would cook up anything to 'justify' whever happens to be convenient for you. Bhandasura would be proud. It is sickening that you see an opportunity for yourself in destruction of Hinduism even by 0.04% (sic).
Even if each saint is just a grain of sand, so what!! Why should one lessen the reverence for them?
Since you see someone of Adi-Shamkara's high stature as a 'grain of sand', you must feel that you are a mountain yourself! You need an ego-treatment fast.... Read saptashatI or lalitopakhyanam to find out how demons think about parA-shakti herself.
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Siddha.com.my serves as an entry portal to saivism for non-Indians. The Iskcon and Bochasanwasi websites serves as an entry portal for vaishnavism. If you are a Sakta, why dont you start one for Saktism, Ashok. Make it mirror mine. <!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No thank you. I don't have any desire to help inflate others' egos or mine. But just for the record, I am not really inspired by siddha.com site.