Moved here since I just noticed that Ramana wanted the historicity of jeebus thread to be kept on-topic.
Sorry, can't let this pass:
<!--QuoteBegin-ramana+May 14 2009, 12:26 AM-->QUOTE(ramana @ May 14 2009, 12:26 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->1. Its interesting that Islam didnt allow female priests or mullaesses while Christianism does. Its like Judaism in this respect.
2. BTW did Arabs pick up the burqa from Nestorian nuns?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestorian
[right][snapback]97211[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Moving 2 to top:
2. Older posts: The christoislamic veil is <b>biblical</b>. (And veil in Zoroastrianism vs mandatory islamic veil).
1. Nuns are NOT priests, by the way, hence not female version of priests. Christianism does not allow "female priests".
There are none in the catholic church.
http://atheism.about.com/b/2005/03/10/a-wo...hristianity.htm via http://freetruth.50webs.org/A3.htm#BibleAndWomen
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->[Saint] Augustine (354-430): "Woman was merely man's helpmate, a function which pertains to her alone. She is not the image of God but as far as man is concerned, he is by himself the image of God."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->(Also see the bible: Jeebus' head is gawd. Man's head is jeebus. Woman's head is man. "Hence" - by christologic - his head should be bared in church but her head should not be uncovered in church - and outside too, apparently; christian women traditionally wore a veil or scarf over their head. If women's heads were uncovered in church, the babble commands the faithful sheep to cut their hair.)
Modern day schisms are in the making and heretical christian sects are springing up over this matter of christian women's position in christianism and hence the church (similar to the gay issue).
Anyways, it's not just the older christian cults, but newer ones that insist on the same - not to allow females in priestly positions - because they're all basing it on the sole authoritative source in this matter. The bible:
http://freetruth.50webs.org/A3.htm#AreWomenHuman
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Southern Baptist Convention (2000): "A wife should submit herself to the leadership of her husband. Leadership in the church should always be male."
Local church in Holland (2004): "More and more we see women being placed in the position of Elder or Pastor in churches. Is this a good thing? Well, if your goal is to undermine <b>the authority of the Word of God</b>, it's a good thing."
Link http://atheism.about.com/b/a/152227.htm<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->It is derived from the babble's gender-based discrimination and simultaneously it *derives* gender-based discrimination. (See Augustine above, actually see all of http://atheism.about.com/b/2005/03/10/a-wo...ristianity.htm).
The idea of nuns started off as a means the Church could undertake to obtain aristocratic Roman women's property: if they could be prevented from marrying and if they belonged to the church, then the church could inherit their money and property.
Later on, in the christianised Europe of the Dark Ages, women were frequently sent to the convent if their families found them expensive to maintain, which was the traditional aristocratic christian view of female family members. If family couldn't marry a woman off, they would send them to the church. Naturally, it was her dowry that goes to the church as well (as they were the "brides of christ"), a trend which was started by the church in Roman times. Later women of christian Europe sometimes chose to join the convent in order to escape forced marriages (frequently this was the only alternative provided them), etcetera. Too many examples.
<b>ADDED:</b> a high-profile one that comes to mind is IIRC Anna Amalia - sister of King Friedrich II of Preussen (Prussia) I think it was - who was offered the choice of marrying Friedrich's pick or go into the cloister (since he didn't like her choice). I think she went into the convent for a good while, but not sure now.
In Kerala, the church makes money from the induction each nun. There was an article discussing this, possibly even at IF? In any case, see also How poor christians in Kerala put their girls into the convent because marriage dowries in christianism in India is too expensive. The matter is also covered by C I Issac:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Syrian Christian community with immense wealth, celebrating their marriage ceremonies with the pomp of âMaha Kumba Melasâ, is the real culprit behind the plight of poor girls behind the bars of convents. The seven-digit dowry and celebration turned as a nightmare to the poor Christian families. So the economically weak in the Christian community canât imagine marriage of their daughters. Kottayam, a small town of 25 lakhs of people and five Cathedrals with Christian economic dominance, has one and a half dozen âfive star jewelersâ shows the extent of the pompous of richness of Syrian Christians. Now money is a deciding factor in this community. So, economically weak Christians are gearing to compete with the rest through acquiring money. As a result they are compelling their lasses to opt either to nursing or to nunnery. The convent is dam cheap as compared to nursing. So the economically too poor parents are forced to herd their damsels to the convents. Therefore, the Keralaâs Syrian Christian Church is the chief contributor of the 95% of nuns required for the proselytism activities of the Churches in India.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Kottayam district has by far the highest Christian population in the country
(46%) and is often called the Vatican of India. It is the center of
recruitment of Catholic nuns and priests. Most of the nuns belong to the
poorer section of the rich Syrian Malabar community. They cannot think of
raising the fabulous sums that the well-off families give their daughters as
dowry. If they cannot afford the other established option either -- to pay
for their education as professional nurses -- they are left with no socially
accepted solution other than forcing the young girls â too young to decide
for themselves â in convents.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nunneries are a whole different class altogether.
Some have surmised that the earliest nunneries were in order to enable the 'celibate' priests to be non-celibate well out of the public eye, while both genders of the supposedly morally upright class could at the same time keep their 'reputations' with the argument "How dare you suspect us! We're *both* of a celibate order, don't you know?" even as they committed everything upto infanticide (the latter was such a frequently occurring phenomenon in medieval nunneries that there was at least one major church council convened about it.)
http://freetruth.50webs.org/B3c.htm#Morality
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Â The second fact is that St. Jerome, who then lived in Rome as a sort of secretary to Pope Damasus, has left us a large number of letters in which he describes the character of the Christians of Rome. In almost incredible language, he insists that clergy, monks, consecrated virgins, widows, etc., are monstrously and, with very few exceptions, comprehensively corrupt. "St." Damasus himself was denounced by his priests to the civil power for adultery, and was only saved by the emperor.
-- How Christianity Grew Out of Paganism, by Joseph McCabe
"In the time of St. Cyprian, before the outbreak of the Decian persecution, it had been common to find clergy professing celibacy, but keeping, under various pretexts, their mistresses in their houses; and after Constantine, the complaints on this subject became loud and general. Evagrius describes with much admiration how certain monks of Palestine, by 'a life wholly excellent and divine, had so overcome their passions that they were accustomed to bathe with women.' Virgins and monks often lived together in the same house, and, with a curious audacity of hypocrisy, which is very frequently noticed, they professed to have so overcome the passions of their nature that they shared in chastity the same bed."
  -- Crimes of Christianity by G W Foote & J M Wheeler, quoting historian Lecky
Link
  From the first century, "the Agapeta, were virgins who consecrated themselves to God with a vow of chastity and associated with laymen, who like themselves had taken a vow of chastity. ... It resulted in abuses and scandals. ... St. Jerome [about 400] asked indignantly, 'Why was this pest of Agapette introduced into the Church?'
[...]
-- Forgery in Christianity. A Documented Record of the Foundations of the Christian Religion, by Joseph Wheless, citing the Catholic Encyclopaedia unless otherwise specified
  During the reign of Pope Damasus I (366-383):
  The biblical scholar and ascetic St Jerome (c342-420) warned the women of Rome that the Catholic Church, under Damasus I, was monstrously corrupt. He claimed that priests, monks, professional virgins all were debauched and that they engaged in "love feasts" - orgies - in churches on saints' days. Virgins "fall every day" he wrote in a letter to an aristocratic woman called Eustochium, warning her to avoid the pontiff's flock.
  In another epistle, Jerome said that men became priests and deacons "so that they may see women more freely".
  Jerome warned one Roman woman to never remain alone in a room with a priest. Should she find herself in such a situation, the woman was told to "plead that either her bowels or bladder needed relieving".
  Christian women were not to be trusted either, according to Jerome. "Never enter the house or be in their company alone," he said.
  To Jerome, the only women of virtue to be seen on the streets of Rome were not Christians but pagans.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The above is all exactly as the priests and nuns and churches are in *India*, *today*. For example, a few items off the top of my head that had been posted on IF:
1. Nun-turned-author Jesme's experiences with priests and nuns who can't keep their claws to themselves,
2. The uncelibate behaviour that the nun Abhaya saw another nun and a couple of priests engage in, for which they raped-and-murdered her and then tried to cover it up as a 'suicide' for a long time.
Actually, most of the vast number of nun-murders in and by Kerala Churches is on account of these things (rape, molestation, witnessing similar things, witnessing the murder of others who were victimised by rapist priests and penguins).
See for instance C I Issac's articles on this, such as "The Dreadful Dracula Houses of Kerala- The Catholic Christian Convents of Central Kerala" from 23/04/2007 at http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?P...541&SKIN=C. More examples like the suicide-murder of nun Anupa Mary who was sexually harassed by a senior nun. And like Anupa Mary who was found hanging from the ceiling fan, another nun was recently found suicided by hanging as well: Sister Josephine of Idukki in Kerala (Feb 2009).
3. The news from not-so-long-ago of a nun who made a mobile phone sleaze home-video of her own 'exploits', see http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/01/dal...can-herald.html "DalitFreedomNetwork: Deccan Herald - Kerala nun's sexcapade stuns church"
4. The vampire priest of Cochin (<- The title Rajeev 2004's blog uses for that bishop Thatunkal or something who's been parasiting in Kerala. He 'adopted' a young woman for his 'spiritual nourishment' and was using some of her blood as a sacrifice to jeebus),
5. The christian priests - 'fathers' - teaching in christian schools and colleges who prey on young female students. E.g. Principal Father Mathew of St Claret High School in Bangalore who molested 18 female students and when finally exposed went into hiding from the police. News articles here
Nothing has changed since christianism infested Rome, because all this hypocritical promiscuity IS christianism and christianism does NOT change.
http://freetruth.50webs.org/D1.htm#NunVices
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Â Â The Vices of Nuns [9th Century]
    "...female convents were [no] more successfully regulated [than monasteries], for the Council of Aix-la-Chapelle, in 836, states that in many places they were rather brothels than houses of God; and it shows how close a supervision over the spouses of Christ was thought requisite when it proceeds to direct that nunneries shall be so built as to have no dark corners in which scandals may be perpetrated out of view. The effect of these efforts may be estimated from a remark... of Erchenbald, Chancellor of Charlemagne... that the licentiousness of nuns commonly resulted in a worse crime, infanticide."
    -- History of Sacerdotal Celibacy within the Christian Church by Henry Charles Lea (American Quaker historian of the Church), p. 108<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Again, this is reminiscent of the news from Feb 2007 about a christian missionary 'hospital' in India where baby bones were found:
Bodhi and Bharatavarsha posted several news articles on how 390 bones and remains of children (including newborns and at least 14 foetuses) were found at the "Ratlam Christian Hospital".
And of course this news from October 2008:
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2008/10/wil...nd-mteresa.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Revelations put nun's life in danger
THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: A nun's life is under threat following her revelations about the alleged abortions performed on nuns and the "limitless"' affairs the priests were having with nuns of the Congregation of Daughters of Mary Convent, Anchal.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sorry to keep repeating the above, but there's no point imagining some kind of theoretical gender equality or pretence to the same in christianism, when such an incorrect supposition is just ascribing lofty motives to what was originally (since late Roman/earliest christian times) no more than a tool of convenience for the priestly order and a means of money for the church. Even today, the church the world over still finds it convenient for their priests - considering the 'reputation' of their occupation - to have officially forbidden (and frequently denied) intimate relations with nuns, since this keeps such matters private.
http://freetruth.50webs.org/D1.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Vatican Recognizes Rape Report</b> - Washington Post (Reuters AFRICA) March 21, 2001
  VATICAN CITY -- The Vatican yesterday acknowledged a report that some priests and missionaries were forcing nuns to have sex with them, and in some cases forcing their rape victims to have abortions.
  Some nuns were also forced to take oral contraceptives, the report cited in the newspaper La Repubblica said.
  The Vatican said the issue was restricted to a certain geographic area, but the report cited cases in 23 countries, including the United States, Brazil, the Philippines, India, Ireland and Italy.
  Although the Vatican did not name the area, the report said most incidents of sexual abuse against nuns occurred in Africa, where the nuns were identified as "safe" at a time when AIDS is devastating the continent.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Related:
Sex, Priests, and Secret Codes: The Catholic Churchâs 2000-year Paper Trail of Sexual Abuse by Krishen Kak at VijayVaani.
And:
Priesthood as vocation â and the mental health professional by Krishen Kak at Vijayvaani
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The sexual abuse of nuns by priests is rampant "especially in Africa and other parts of the developing world" and is well within the knowledge of the Vatican. <b>Indian nuns are exported to the West where, for example, in the Brigittine Order in Italy, they reportedly suffer "maltreatment, moral violence and working conditions close to slavery", reminiscent of the infamous Magdalene laundries of Ireland.</b>[13]
Christian priests in India are not immune to this-worldly Christian love. The "church in Kerala is rocked by sex scandals" and 63 Kerala priests stand accused of "murder, attempt to murder, rape, molestation, assault, abduction, theft, break-in, cheatingâ¦almost every offence under the Indian Penal Code âand of course, the Ten Commandments". Tamil Nadu priests are trying to catch up. Notorious proselytiser Graham Staines was accused of sex-abuse and, as it happens, "Christian nuns claim false rape in India to defame Hinduism".[14]
(The married missionary Staines attempted rape of one of his new sheep: neo-convert-to-christianism Hemalata Karua - the wife of another of Staines' converts).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
"Female priests", in christianism?
Female christian terrorism, yes. "Equal" in terror, yes. Female priests? No.
Sorry, can't let this pass:
<!--QuoteBegin-ramana+May 14 2009, 12:26 AM-->QUOTE(ramana @ May 14 2009, 12:26 AM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->1. Its interesting that Islam didnt allow female priests or mullaesses while Christianism does. Its like Judaism in this respect.
2. BTW did Arabs pick up the burqa from Nestorian nuns?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestorian
[right][snapback]97211[/snapback][/right]<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Moving 2 to top:
2. Older posts: The christoislamic veil is <b>biblical</b>. (And veil in Zoroastrianism vs mandatory islamic veil).
1. Nuns are NOT priests, by the way, hence not female version of priests. Christianism does not allow "female priests".
There are none in the catholic church.
http://atheism.about.com/b/2005/03/10/a-wo...hristianity.htm via http://freetruth.50webs.org/A3.htm#BibleAndWomen
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->[Saint] Augustine (354-430): "Woman was merely man's helpmate, a function which pertains to her alone. She is not the image of God but as far as man is concerned, he is by himself the image of God."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->(Also see the bible: Jeebus' head is gawd. Man's head is jeebus. Woman's head is man. "Hence" - by christologic - his head should be bared in church but her head should not be uncovered in church - and outside too, apparently; christian women traditionally wore a veil or scarf over their head. If women's heads were uncovered in church, the babble commands the faithful sheep to cut their hair.)
Modern day schisms are in the making and heretical christian sects are springing up over this matter of christian women's position in christianism and hence the church (similar to the gay issue).
Anyways, it's not just the older christian cults, but newer ones that insist on the same - not to allow females in priestly positions - because they're all basing it on the sole authoritative source in this matter. The bible:
http://freetruth.50webs.org/A3.htm#AreWomenHuman
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Southern Baptist Convention (2000): "A wife should submit herself to the leadership of her husband. Leadership in the church should always be male."
Local church in Holland (2004): "More and more we see women being placed in the position of Elder or Pastor in churches. Is this a good thing? Well, if your goal is to undermine <b>the authority of the Word of God</b>, it's a good thing."
Link http://atheism.about.com/b/a/152227.htm<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->It is derived from the babble's gender-based discrimination and simultaneously it *derives* gender-based discrimination. (See Augustine above, actually see all of http://atheism.about.com/b/2005/03/10/a-wo...ristianity.htm).
The idea of nuns started off as a means the Church could undertake to obtain aristocratic Roman women's property: if they could be prevented from marrying and if they belonged to the church, then the church could inherit their money and property.
Later on, in the christianised Europe of the Dark Ages, women were frequently sent to the convent if their families found them expensive to maintain, which was the traditional aristocratic christian view of female family members. If family couldn't marry a woman off, they would send them to the church. Naturally, it was her dowry that goes to the church as well (as they were the "brides of christ"), a trend which was started by the church in Roman times. Later women of christian Europe sometimes chose to join the convent in order to escape forced marriages (frequently this was the only alternative provided them), etcetera. Too many examples.
<b>ADDED:</b> a high-profile one that comes to mind is IIRC Anna Amalia - sister of King Friedrich II of Preussen (Prussia) I think it was - who was offered the choice of marrying Friedrich's pick or go into the cloister (since he didn't like her choice). I think she went into the convent for a good while, but not sure now.
In Kerala, the church makes money from the induction each nun. There was an article discussing this, possibly even at IF? In any case, see also How poor christians in Kerala put their girls into the convent because marriage dowries in christianism in India is too expensive. The matter is also covered by C I Issac:
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The Syrian Christian community with immense wealth, celebrating their marriage ceremonies with the pomp of âMaha Kumba Melasâ, is the real culprit behind the plight of poor girls behind the bars of convents. The seven-digit dowry and celebration turned as a nightmare to the poor Christian families. So the economically weak in the Christian community canât imagine marriage of their daughters. Kottayam, a small town of 25 lakhs of people and five Cathedrals with Christian economic dominance, has one and a half dozen âfive star jewelersâ shows the extent of the pompous of richness of Syrian Christians. Now money is a deciding factor in this community. So, economically weak Christians are gearing to compete with the rest through acquiring money. As a result they are compelling their lasses to opt either to nursing or to nunnery. The convent is dam cheap as compared to nursing. So the economically too poor parents are forced to herd their damsels to the convents. Therefore, the Keralaâs Syrian Christian Church is the chief contributor of the 95% of nuns required for the proselytism activities of the Churches in India.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--><!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Kottayam district has by far the highest Christian population in the country
(46%) and is often called the Vatican of India. It is the center of
recruitment of Catholic nuns and priests. Most of the nuns belong to the
poorer section of the rich Syrian Malabar community. They cannot think of
raising the fabulous sums that the well-off families give their daughters as
dowry. If they cannot afford the other established option either -- to pay
for their education as professional nurses -- they are left with no socially
accepted solution other than forcing the young girls â too young to decide
for themselves â in convents.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nunneries are a whole different class altogether.
Some have surmised that the earliest nunneries were in order to enable the 'celibate' priests to be non-celibate well out of the public eye, while both genders of the supposedly morally upright class could at the same time keep their 'reputations' with the argument "How dare you suspect us! We're *both* of a celibate order, don't you know?" even as they committed everything upto infanticide (the latter was such a frequently occurring phenomenon in medieval nunneries that there was at least one major church council convened about it.)
http://freetruth.50webs.org/B3c.htm#Morality
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Â The second fact is that St. Jerome, who then lived in Rome as a sort of secretary to Pope Damasus, has left us a large number of letters in which he describes the character of the Christians of Rome. In almost incredible language, he insists that clergy, monks, consecrated virgins, widows, etc., are monstrously and, with very few exceptions, comprehensively corrupt. "St." Damasus himself was denounced by his priests to the civil power for adultery, and was only saved by the emperor.
-- How Christianity Grew Out of Paganism, by Joseph McCabe
"In the time of St. Cyprian, before the outbreak of the Decian persecution, it had been common to find clergy professing celibacy, but keeping, under various pretexts, their mistresses in their houses; and after Constantine, the complaints on this subject became loud and general. Evagrius describes with much admiration how certain monks of Palestine, by 'a life wholly excellent and divine, had so overcome their passions that they were accustomed to bathe with women.' Virgins and monks often lived together in the same house, and, with a curious audacity of hypocrisy, which is very frequently noticed, they professed to have so overcome the passions of their nature that they shared in chastity the same bed."
  -- Crimes of Christianity by G W Foote & J M Wheeler, quoting historian Lecky
Link
  From the first century, "the Agapeta, were virgins who consecrated themselves to God with a vow of chastity and associated with laymen, who like themselves had taken a vow of chastity. ... It resulted in abuses and scandals. ... St. Jerome [about 400] asked indignantly, 'Why was this pest of Agapette introduced into the Church?'
[...]
-- Forgery in Christianity. A Documented Record of the Foundations of the Christian Religion, by Joseph Wheless, citing the Catholic Encyclopaedia unless otherwise specified
  During the reign of Pope Damasus I (366-383):
  The biblical scholar and ascetic St Jerome (c342-420) warned the women of Rome that the Catholic Church, under Damasus I, was monstrously corrupt. He claimed that priests, monks, professional virgins all were debauched and that they engaged in "love feasts" - orgies - in churches on saints' days. Virgins "fall every day" he wrote in a letter to an aristocratic woman called Eustochium, warning her to avoid the pontiff's flock.
  In another epistle, Jerome said that men became priests and deacons "so that they may see women more freely".
  Jerome warned one Roman woman to never remain alone in a room with a priest. Should she find herself in such a situation, the woman was told to "plead that either her bowels or bladder needed relieving".
  Christian women were not to be trusted either, according to Jerome. "Never enter the house or be in their company alone," he said.
  To Jerome, the only women of virtue to be seen on the streets of Rome were not Christians but pagans.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->The above is all exactly as the priests and nuns and churches are in *India*, *today*. For example, a few items off the top of my head that had been posted on IF:
1. Nun-turned-author Jesme's experiences with priests and nuns who can't keep their claws to themselves,
2. The uncelibate behaviour that the nun Abhaya saw another nun and a couple of priests engage in, for which they raped-and-murdered her and then tried to cover it up as a 'suicide' for a long time.
Actually, most of the vast number of nun-murders in and by Kerala Churches is on account of these things (rape, molestation, witnessing similar things, witnessing the murder of others who were victimised by rapist priests and penguins).
See for instance C I Issac's articles on this, such as "The Dreadful Dracula Houses of Kerala- The Catholic Christian Convents of Central Kerala" from 23/04/2007 at http://haindavakeralam.com/HKPage.aspx?P...541&SKIN=C. More examples like the suicide-murder of nun Anupa Mary who was sexually harassed by a senior nun. And like Anupa Mary who was found hanging from the ceiling fan, another nun was recently found suicided by hanging as well: Sister Josephine of Idukki in Kerala (Feb 2009).
3. The news from not-so-long-ago of a nun who made a mobile phone sleaze home-video of her own 'exploits', see http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2009/01/dal...can-herald.html "DalitFreedomNetwork: Deccan Herald - Kerala nun's sexcapade stuns church"
4. The vampire priest of Cochin (<- The title Rajeev 2004's blog uses for that bishop Thatunkal or something who's been parasiting in Kerala. He 'adopted' a young woman for his 'spiritual nourishment' and was using some of her blood as a sacrifice to jeebus),
5. The christian priests - 'fathers' - teaching in christian schools and colleges who prey on young female students. E.g. Principal Father Mathew of St Claret High School in Bangalore who molested 18 female students and when finally exposed went into hiding from the police. News articles here
Nothing has changed since christianism infested Rome, because all this hypocritical promiscuity IS christianism and christianism does NOT change.
http://freetruth.50webs.org/D1.htm#NunVices
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Â Â The Vices of Nuns [9th Century]
    "...female convents were [no] more successfully regulated [than monasteries], for the Council of Aix-la-Chapelle, in 836, states that in many places they were rather brothels than houses of God; and it shows how close a supervision over the spouses of Christ was thought requisite when it proceeds to direct that nunneries shall be so built as to have no dark corners in which scandals may be perpetrated out of view. The effect of these efforts may be estimated from a remark... of Erchenbald, Chancellor of Charlemagne... that the licentiousness of nuns commonly resulted in a worse crime, infanticide."
    -- History of Sacerdotal Celibacy within the Christian Church by Henry Charles Lea (American Quaker historian of the Church), p. 108<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> Again, this is reminiscent of the news from Feb 2007 about a christian missionary 'hospital' in India where baby bones were found:
Bodhi and Bharatavarsha posted several news articles on how 390 bones and remains of children (including newborns and at least 14 foetuses) were found at the "Ratlam Christian Hospital".
And of course this news from October 2008:
http://rajeev2004.blogspot.com/2008/10/wil...nd-mteresa.html
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->Revelations put nun's life in danger
THIRUVANANTHAPURAM: A nun's life is under threat following her revelations about the alleged abortions performed on nuns and the "limitless"' affairs the priests were having with nuns of the Congregation of Daughters of Mary Convent, Anchal.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sorry to keep repeating the above, but there's no point imagining some kind of theoretical gender equality or pretence to the same in christianism, when such an incorrect supposition is just ascribing lofty motives to what was originally (since late Roman/earliest christian times) no more than a tool of convenience for the priestly order and a means of money for the church. Even today, the church the world over still finds it convenient for their priests - considering the 'reputation' of their occupation - to have officially forbidden (and frequently denied) intimate relations with nuns, since this keeps such matters private.
http://freetruth.50webs.org/D1.htm
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin--><b>Vatican Recognizes Rape Report</b> - Washington Post (Reuters AFRICA) March 21, 2001
  VATICAN CITY -- The Vatican yesterday acknowledged a report that some priests and missionaries were forcing nuns to have sex with them, and in some cases forcing their rape victims to have abortions.
  Some nuns were also forced to take oral contraceptives, the report cited in the newspaper La Repubblica said.
  The Vatican said the issue was restricted to a certain geographic area, but the report cited cases in 23 countries, including the United States, Brazil, the Philippines, India, Ireland and Italy.
  Although the Vatican did not name the area, the report said most incidents of sexual abuse against nuns occurred in Africa, where the nuns were identified as "safe" at a time when AIDS is devastating the continent.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Related:
Sex, Priests, and Secret Codes: The Catholic Churchâs 2000-year Paper Trail of Sexual Abuse by Krishen Kak at VijayVaani.
And:
Priesthood as vocation â and the mental health professional by Krishen Kak at Vijayvaani
<!--QuoteBegin-->QUOTE<!--QuoteEBegin-->The sexual abuse of nuns by priests is rampant "especially in Africa and other parts of the developing world" and is well within the knowledge of the Vatican. <b>Indian nuns are exported to the West where, for example, in the Brigittine Order in Italy, they reportedly suffer "maltreatment, moral violence and working conditions close to slavery", reminiscent of the infamous Magdalene laundries of Ireland.</b>[13]
Christian priests in India are not immune to this-worldly Christian love. The "church in Kerala is rocked by sex scandals" and 63 Kerala priests stand accused of "murder, attempt to murder, rape, molestation, assault, abduction, theft, break-in, cheatingâ¦almost every offence under the Indian Penal Code âand of course, the Ten Commandments". Tamil Nadu priests are trying to catch up. Notorious proselytiser Graham Staines was accused of sex-abuse and, as it happens, "Christian nuns claim false rape in India to defame Hinduism".[14]
(The married missionary Staines attempted rape of one of his new sheep: neo-convert-to-christianism Hemalata Karua - the wife of another of Staines' converts).<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
"Female priests", in christianism?
Female christian terrorism, yes. "Equal" in terror, yes. Female priests? No.
Death to traitors.