05-31-2009, 08:27 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-ravish+May 31 2009, 02:38 PM-->QUOTE(ravish @ May 31 2009, 02:38 PM)<!--QuoteEBegin-->The ideology of BJP its organisational weakness etc all have been accepted by a sizable number of voters of India. That is the precise reason that they have been able to get elected in more than 100 seats in Lok Sabha. The noise in the media today is due to the fact that the results have not been to the expectation of the BJP which was hoping to capture power and rule the country for the next five years.
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Ravishji,
What you said is partly correct. Truth is somewhat a mixed affair.
BJP in its current form is dead. Rigging or not, they'll go down to 60-70 seat count in next elections.
Arun Jaitely was calling the new cabinet as old wine in the new bottle. Seems like these clowns have learnt nothing. PEOPLE DON'T LIKE NAME CALLING. Advani paid for this.
I don't get it. How does it matter to a common man like me if the current cabinet is a carbon copy of the last one?
Its the oppositions job to explain us as why and how a particular minister is not able to handle his/her portfolio and how BJP as an worthy oppositions as set of alternative policies to offer.
Lets not get off tracked by shrill accusations of a rigged elections. Days of booth capturing are over.
But, in fact I believe many seats in this elections were rigged, but rigging is done only in those places where a 10-15% vote swing will change the results. Anything more stupid means the pattern will be caught.
This is the reason that the Con party was cocksure about the results and their cronies in media were toting the numbers.
But the final results surprised everyone, which means two things:
1. Con/UPA would have won without rigging.
2. There was a UPA/Con vote swing (culled from the regional parties shares + wrong BJP candidates + BJP infighting) which combined with rigging produced a landslide victory for Con.
So, the overall picture is somewhat bleak future for BJP.
I posted an assertion long ago in BRF that BJP is fighting against the media, biased and corrupt official machinery, brainwashed population and external interests.
I'll also add that the lunatic fringe elements of Hindu Right that draws from lowest dregs of the society will continue to discredit BJP and larger Sangh Parivar.
IMPORTANT POINTS.
1. Ideology is not an issue per se. Assertive Hindutva is not acceptable to all. We have to live with that.
2. We did a quick analysis of BJP vote share across constituencies in BRF. We found BJP could have easily added 60 more i.e. 170+ seats with better discipline, candidate selection and overall poll management.
3. BJP is non-existent in 200 odd constituencies. It has to go there. My debate with Mudy was on this account. BJP currently caters to a narrow slice of Hindu population.
4. Far right fringe has to be purged. BJP cannot afford to lose fence sitters, mostly youth.
It is very important that Bajrang Dal strong arm tactics is curbed and corrupt cadre and MP/MLA expelled.
RSS/BJP needs to regain the high moral ground very quickly.
My message is, forget secular show off, first strive be a all encompassing platform for all Hindus across class, caste and region. Votes will follow.
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Ravishji,
What you said is partly correct. Truth is somewhat a mixed affair.
BJP in its current form is dead. Rigging or not, they'll go down to 60-70 seat count in next elections.
Arun Jaitely was calling the new cabinet as old wine in the new bottle. Seems like these clowns have learnt nothing. PEOPLE DON'T LIKE NAME CALLING. Advani paid for this.
I don't get it. How does it matter to a common man like me if the current cabinet is a carbon copy of the last one?
Its the oppositions job to explain us as why and how a particular minister is not able to handle his/her portfolio and how BJP as an worthy oppositions as set of alternative policies to offer.
Lets not get off tracked by shrill accusations of a rigged elections. Days of booth capturing are over.
But, in fact I believe many seats in this elections were rigged, but rigging is done only in those places where a 10-15% vote swing will change the results. Anything more stupid means the pattern will be caught.
This is the reason that the Con party was cocksure about the results and their cronies in media were toting the numbers.
But the final results surprised everyone, which means two things:
1. Con/UPA would have won without rigging.
2. There was a UPA/Con vote swing (culled from the regional parties shares + wrong BJP candidates + BJP infighting) which combined with rigging produced a landslide victory for Con.
So, the overall picture is somewhat bleak future for BJP.
I posted an assertion long ago in BRF that BJP is fighting against the media, biased and corrupt official machinery, brainwashed population and external interests.
I'll also add that the lunatic fringe elements of Hindu Right that draws from lowest dregs of the society will continue to discredit BJP and larger Sangh Parivar.
IMPORTANT POINTS.
1. Ideology is not an issue per se. Assertive Hindutva is not acceptable to all. We have to live with that.
2. We did a quick analysis of BJP vote share across constituencies in BRF. We found BJP could have easily added 60 more i.e. 170+ seats with better discipline, candidate selection and overall poll management.
3. BJP is non-existent in 200 odd constituencies. It has to go there. My debate with Mudy was on this account. BJP currently caters to a narrow slice of Hindu population.
4. Far right fringe has to be purged. BJP cannot afford to lose fence sitters, mostly youth.
It is very important that Bajrang Dal strong arm tactics is curbed and corrupt cadre and MP/MLA expelled.
RSS/BJP needs to regain the high moral ground very quickly.
My message is, forget secular show off, first strive be a all encompassing platform for all Hindus across class, caste and region. Votes will follow.